Who is the best 5/8 in history?

[Willow]

Forget the pic, who is the best five eighth in the history of the game?

 

[legend]

On natural ability the best I ever saw was Brett Kenny but on leadership and fighting qualities, Daley and Lewis reign supreme. Fittler is the most overrated five eighth I have seen.

 

[ozbash]

robbie paul

those your kids willow ?

 

[Willow]

No mate. They're complete strangers.

 

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[Willow]

I'm sorry to say that the best 5/8 I've seen is Bob Fulton. A southern lad gone bad when he went to the dark side, but a bloody good 5/8 regardless.

 

[imported_midas]

Thought Bozo did his best work at centre .I consider him to be the most over-rated of the Immortals.Probably more to do with connections than ability.I personally can,t split Kenny and Daley,

 

[Willow]

Matter of opinion I guess. I thought he was more potent when he was working inside the three-quarters.
As far as being overated... well, its not an opinion shared by those who played with him and/or against him.

 

[Cronulla_Mania]

Braith Anasta by a mile

Moffo.

 

[imported_Docker]

George Menzies.

I bet that stuffs your powers of recall - he finished playing before you were born.

 

[ozbash]

menzies, now theres another great west coaster.........

 

[Willow]

Bwaith Anasta? LMAO

George Menzies? Any relation to Steve... or Bob?

Seeing we're digging into history, I may as well throw Poppa Clay's name in.Terrifying defender and always gave his outside plenty of space, and this when the defence was barely 5 yards away.

 

[pepe]

the king was the greatest,he was a great reader of the game,not to mention he had the strength of 100 buffalos,he took on the villians south of the border and restored pride in the maroon guernsey.

kenny was probably prettier to watch but he was'nt the match winner that lewis was,the same could be said about daley and fittler.

pepe

 

[Gav-bt]

Three Great British stand-offs: Roger Millward, Alan Hardisty and Willie Horne.

 

[Willow]

Stand-off or five-eighth?
I always thought stand-off was a British term and five-eighth an Antipodean term.
Silly question for some but how did we come up with these names?

 

[Gav-bt]

I oftened wondered that. And why do we have loose-forwards and scrum-halfs, whilst you have lock-forwards and halfbacks?

 

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[Willow]

"...why do we have loose-forwards and scrum-halfs, whilst you have lock-forwards and halfbacks?"
Then there's the 'loose head' prop and other things like open side and blind side - not to be confused with thethird man and being caught in the gully.

I can only speak of the Australian positions. Although, I always thought that 'stand-off' was simply the the first position standing off from the scrum. The Lock forward was where I often ended up and basically we had to lock the scrum in place and keep it straight, or screw it around depending on the circumstance.

I always imagined that the field when set in perfect position, would have the halfback behind (back) the scrum midway (half) on the field of positions.

The winger is widest offcourse.

The centres are half way between the wing the half. The two wingers + the twocentres take up three quarters of the backline (4out of 6), hence the threequarters.

The five eighth is inside the centres - that is, from the wing to the half he is 5/8 of the way in-field.

Anyone who knows better, please have a go. I can speak the language but have little idea of its origins...

 

[Gav-bt]

I imagine stand-off refers to what you call a 5/8 playing wide or just 'off' the ruck? Having never played the game, I'm not too sure.

Here's one that get's me, what is an outside centre? I think some pundits just like to make these terms up just to baffle us newbies.

 

[Willow]

The 5/8's role is to stand just wide of the ruck at first or second receiver.
Some coaches will differ depending on who the halfback and five eighth are. They are both considered 'halves' and realistically will position themselves differently depending on their defensive and attacking skills.

:...what is an outside centre? "

I had someone take me to task on this once.

Isit Left/Right Centre or Inside/Outside Centre?

I've always said Inside/Outside.
- the outside centre being the closer 'threequarter' to the winger.