Who should be the 9th Immortal?

[saint.nick]

Not all of us.
I agree about Lockyer but he should be waiting for a while, Norm Provan needs to be the next one...it's a no brainer.

haha nah I agree, half my family are queenslanders...

Yep, no one is saying Lockyer isn't immortal quality, but there's a queue that he needs to wait in.

 

[Captain Apollo]

A HoF should be introduced.

Add in all of the immortals and say every one before a certain year that deserves to be in it.

Then the people/game vote for who will next be inducted, pretty much exactly like the NFL model.

How soon they forget, and it has already been mentioned in this thread, there already is a Hall of Fame. The problem is the ARLC has not had any inductees to it since 2007.

 

[BradMackay]

Provan.
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[_snafu_]

Michael De Vere

 

[DiegoNT]

Don't think lockyer should wait in queue. He is undoubtly the best player of the 00s. He captained Queensland over 10 years and australia for 8. Should be one player from each generation. The other guys who people are proposing are guys like Meninga and Provan. Provan was the 4th best player from the golden st george sides, Meninga is at best the second best Queensland player of his time ( and guys like miles, langer, lidner etc may even challenge him for that). Sterlo might be unlucky to miss out but even he would be hard to separate from his teammates like Price, kenny amd Cronin.
The immortals are restricted to post war players. In the time span from 1945-1990 (45 years) 7 players were picked, in the time span from 1990-2015 only 1 player has been picked. If in the next round of inductions (probably around 2020), if someone like Provan gets picked it means we have 8 players from the first 45 years and only 1 player from the remaining 30 years. The award should remain exclusive so any player from before 1990 should be ineligible ( but still a part of a better promoted hall of fame ) and a new player from each generation added once a decade- in 2020 it should be lockyer, in 2030 it might be Thurston and in 2040 the player has yet to debut yet.

 

[God-King Dean]

RLW will induct whoever will sell the most magazines

 

[roostersrule2]

How soon they forget, and it has already been mentioned in this thread, there already is a Hall of Fame. The problem is the ARLC has not had any inductees to it since 2007.

Is that the 100 greatest players thing?

It's hardly even recognised, they need to publicise it more. When you think of the NRL HoF you think of the Immortals and it shouldn't be that way.

 

[saint.nick]

The hall of fame should be more recognised but it I think it should co-exist with the immortals. It distinguishes between a highly renowned legend and an absolute goat.

 

[Nevan_]

You're all wrong. Norm Provan is the answer

 

[Johnnie Red]

Its not a good sign when you can only find the ARL Hall of Fame on Wikipedia.
I'm sure it is on another site but i couldn't find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Rugby_League_Hall_of_Fame

 

[Captain Apollo]

Is that the 100 greatest players thing?

It's hardly even recognised, they need to publicise it more. When you think of the NRL HoF you think of the Immortals and it shouldn't be that way.

No. The NRL introduced a Hall of Fame in 2002. They inducted 6 players each year from 2002 to 2007. With the Centenary of the Game in 2008 they didn't induct anyone and haven't done since 2007. The best page I can find about it, which is a fan page, is this one - http://dazrl.awardspace.info/h_hall_of_fame.htm

The Hall of Fame is located in the Rugby League Museum at League Central.

I agree, it needs to be publicised a lot more and should have regular inductions. The name "Immortals" is cool, but the fact is that it is a marketing ploy to drive sales of Rugby League Week.

 

[Pennies]

It should be Norm Provan but there seems to be a rush to immortalise players that have just retired.

Quite honestly I don't really take the Immortals seriously when you have the likes of Ray Hadley and Phil Rothfield on the judging panel. Both never played the game and have personal axes to grind. Provan should have been done last time but these two heavily and publicly backed Johns.

 

[JJ]

No. The NRL introduced a Hall of Fame in 2002. They inducted 6 players each year from 2002 to 2007. With the Centenary of the Game in 2008 they didn't induct anyone and haven't done since 2007. The best page I can find about it, which is a fan page, is this one - http://dazrl.awardspace.info/h_hall_of_fame.htm

The Hall of Fame is located in the Rugby League Museum at League Central.

I agree, it needs to be publicised a lot more and should have regular inductions. The name "Immortals" is cool, but the fact is that it is a marketing ploy to drive sales of Rugby League Week.

Insane they stopped - look at the inductees, brilliant, exactly what's needed - recognising greatness, without this stupid need to separate out some as 'immortal' to sell a magazine

 

[DiegoNT]

The one big thing that counts against Norm Provan is that the vast majority of us ( amd possibly the next round of judges to ) didn't see him play, its been 50 years since he retired, so only those in the 70-80 age bracket could truly judge him fairly. The fact that the people that did see him in his prime voted in Gasnier, Raper and Langlands ahead of him must mean something.

 

[yobbo84]

It should be a person who had the biggest influence of the outcome of matches they were involved in. With that in mind, my vote goes to Bill Harrigan.

 

[BradMackay]

The one big thing that counts against Norm Provan is that the vast majority of us ( amd possibly the next round of judges to ) didn't see him play, its been 50 years since he retired, so only those in the 70-80 age bracket could truly judge him fairly. The fact that the people that did see him in his prime voted in Gasnier, Raper and Langlands ahead of him must mean something.

The was opposition to having another St George player as an immortal after Langlands so it went to player from a more recent era

 

[Stranga]

wots an immortal

 

[DiegoNT]

The was opposition to having another St George player as an immortal after Langlands so it went to player from a more recent era

Whenever the great st george sides get mentioned it's always Raper or Gasnier that gets mentioned first, they were also greats at a test level and for performances on kangaroo tours, Provans not so much at a test level because he sat out a few tours for personal reasons. Langlands made a name for himself at test level during the late 60s and early 70s

 

[ram raid]

I'm not old enough to appreciate the older players. But in my generation I've seen so many great players come through - Langer, Daily, Meninga, Clyde, Lockyer, Johns, Smith, Thurston, Slater, Inglis, Hayne..

I find it impossible to single one out as more deserving than another. If I had to pick one now I'd probably Lockyer, but that's probably just because his accomplishments are fresher in memory.

 

[DiegoNT]

I'm not old enough to appreciate the older players. But in my generation I've seen so many great players come through - Langer, Daily, Meninga, Clyde, Lockyer, Johns, Smith, Thurston, Slater, Inglis, Hayne..

I find it impossible to single one out as more deserving than another. If I had to pick one now I'd probably Lockyer, but that's probably just because his accomplishments are fresher in memory.

I think that's right, we should only judge the players we've seen and who we can actually appreciate just how good they are. How many of us have actually seen Provan play? Yea he has a great record, but The blokes who did see him play voted in Raper . Churchill, gasnier, langlands and Fulton ahead of him.