Who to swap for JAC

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

Mate the word out of the dragons was that when we were trying to convince him to stay at the club he was constantly talking about the daily commute to Wollongong.The club tried to talk him into moving to the gong and he said he didn't want to move away from his Mum and Dad kids these days, seriously some of them need to take a spoonful of cement and harden up.

F$&@ me if I was a strapping young lad like Saab I’d be chomping at the bit to move out of home and kickstart my NRL career. South Coast beats Western Sydney all day long. It would be super exciting.

 

[Mjab]

Some people should have their “Post New Thread” button disabled.

I think including me !!!

and Shit Possm you didnt even do it in a fluoro colour

 

[Mjab]

I’d swap Dufty, I like Dufty but I think only Bellamy could get him at his best. It would be a mutually beneficial swap but I can’t see it happening.

love it to happen

problem is Dufty prob cant really play wing that well and I dont think they would change Pap from FB as hes killing it

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

love it to happen

problem is Dufty prob cant really play wing that well and I dont think they would change Pap from FB as hes killing it

I agree that’s why I doubt it would happen. Maybe SSE, he seems a bit down the pecking order but looks an absolute specimen. I would love to keep him but you can’t keep everyone, blokes need a shot.

 

[Dragonslayer]

I agree that’s why I doubt it would happen. Maybe SSE, he seems a bit down the pecking order but looks an absolute specimen. I would love to keep him but you can’t keep everyone, blokes need a shot.

SSE is a specialist left centre who can also play wing.
Shame there was no CC this year, I think he'd be right in the mix right now for a debut in 1st grade.

As for the Storm, they have Pap and Hynes, they don't need Dufty. Add to this is, if JAC was good at fb then Bellamy would give him a run there, I haven't seen that. As for JAC wing $$ v fullback $$, you can see where this is heading.

 

[matPORTS]

A few things on this theory / proposal.

Personally, I am not convinced that JAC will make a good number one - and we'd probably end up just shifting him back out to the wing at some point. Not the end of the world as we potentially have some longer term options in the one (Ramsey or Schiller). However on that - JAC for $750k is a bit too much money. $600-650k at a stretch.

It won't be Dufty and/or Norman going the other way to Melbourne in such a deal. It would have to be Saab or another winger/centre type player. Saab would no doubt prefer to land at another Sydney club. I wouldn't be releasing Ramsey, Schiller, or the Feagais. So it's down to Pereira or Ravalawa for such a swap. The one I'd let go would be Pereira, but I'd imagine Melbourne would probably prefer Ravalawa if given a choice out of the two. Given Rava has also been re-signed by us, there would also be complexities there.

Actually - when I think deeper about what I've written here, what does JAC bring us that we don't already have on the books (given the right coaching, game plans and maybe some hard nosed recruits in the pack to give our backs the room to show off their talent)?

 

[Mjab]

SSE is a specialist left centre who can also play wing.
Shame there was no CC this year, I think he'd be right in the mix right now for a debut in 1st grade.

As for the Storm, they have Pap and Hynes, they don't need Dufty. Add to this is, if JAC was good at fb then Bellamy would give him a run there, I haven't seen that. As for JAC wing $$ v fullback $$, you can see where this is heading.

Good point re if bellamy and Co thought he would be a good FB they would be doing so or have given him a go already

maybe he does want to go sydney for family but also about trying to get FB money for a winger

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

SSE is a specialist left centre who can also play wing.
Shame there was no CC this year, I think he'd be right in the mix right now for a debut in 1st grade.

As for the Storm, they have Pap and Hynes, they don't need Dufty. Add to this is, if JAC was good at fb then Bellamy would give him a run there, I haven't seen that. As for JAC wing $$ v fullback $$, you can see where this is heading.

JAC is a left winger so Bellamy could use him there to buy time to get a winger eventually moving him to centre. Bellamy would get him looking like Joey Manu I reckon.

 

[Forbes Creek Dragons]

A few things on this theory / proposal.

Personally, I am not convinced that JAC will make a good number one - and we'd probably end up just shifting him back out to the wing at some point. Not the end of the world as we potentially have some longer term options in the one (Ramsey or Schiller). However on that - JAC for $750k is a bit too much money. $600-650k at a stretch.

It won't be Dufty and/or Norman going the other way to Melbourne in such a deal. It would have to be Saab or another winger/centre type player. Saab would no doubt prefer to land at another Sydney club. I wouldn't be releasing Ramsey, Schiller, or the Feagais. So it's down to Pereira or Ravalawa for such a swap. The one I'd let go would be Pereira, but I'd imagine Melbourne would probably prefer Ravalawa if given a choice out of the two. Given Rava has also been re-signed by us, there would also be complexities there.

Actually - when I think deeper about what I've written here, what does JAC bring us that we don't already have on the books (given the right coaching, game plans and maybe some hard nosed recruits in the pack to give our backs the room to show off their talent)?

I wouldn’t buy him, I’m just entertaining the question. I just think we need to go all out for forwards. Give Feagai a good shot like we have Lomax, figure out our best back 3 from within. Ramsey has his spot sewn up I would imagine. Ravalawa, Pereira, Mathew Feagai, Wiliame and co can fight out the last wing spot. I wouldn’t write off JP yet, JAC himself would look average outside EA, as did Nightingale.

 

[gregstar]

I'd swap the entire team & staff for Melbourne's.

Has that been ruled out?

 

[redVinme]

I'd swap the entire team & staff for Melbourne's.

Has that been ruled out?

Pos probably put that hypothetical out already

 

[possm]

A few things on this theory / proposal.

Personally, I am not convinced that JAC will make a good number one - and we'd probably end up just shifting him back out to the wing at some point. Not the end of the world as we potentially have some longer term options in the one (Ramsey or Schiller). However on that - JAC for $750k is a bit too much money. $600-650k at a stretch.

It won't be Dufty and/or Norman going the other way to Melbourne in such a deal. It would have to be Saab or another winger/centre type player. Saab would no doubt prefer to land at another Sydney club. I wouldn't be releasing Ramsey, Schiller, or the Feagais. So it's down to Pereira or Ravalawa for such a swap. The one I'd let go would be Pereira, but I'd imagine Melbourne would probably prefer Ravalawa if given a choice out of the two. Given Rava has also been re-signed by us, there would also be complexities there.

Actually - when I think deeper about what I've written here, what does JAC bring us that we don't already have on the books (given the right coaching, game plans and maybe some hard nosed recruits in the pack to give our backs the room to show off their talent)?

It is not so complicated or complex. Ravalawa just asks for a release to go to Melbourne so, we say yes and then proceed to terminate his contract and grant him a release. Melbourne signs him up on a deal agreed by both the Storm and Ravalawa.

Same thing with JAC. He agrees to a new contract with us and Melbourne terminate his contract and provide a release.

There is no need for either Melbourne or SGI to pay anything towards the salary of a player leaving the club. All has to be via mutual agreement and that is it.

 

[matPORTS]

It is not so complicated or complex. Ravalawa just asks for a release to go to Melbourne so, we say yes and then proceed to terminate his contract and grant him a release. Melbourne signs him up on a deal agreed by both the Storm and Ravalawa.

Same thing with JAC. He agrees to a new contract with us and Melbourne terminate his contract and provide a release.

There is no need for either Melbourne or SGI to pay anything towards the salary of a player leaving the club. All has to be via mutual agreement and that is it.

Sure. Not all that complex to organise things from a contractual standpoint. As Griffin himself said on NRL360 last week - the market is always open.

But where the complexities come in... I don't think Ravalawa, or any of the other contracted players whom would make a logical swap for the potential acquisition of JAC, are just going to want to uproot and leave for Melbourne by mutual consent, even if it isn't the worst place in the NRL to go to (but given the uncertain futures of Cam Smith and Craig Bellamy their on-going success is far from guaranteed). Especially, as is the case with Rava, if they have just re-signed to stay in Sydney/Wollongong where family ties and/or other personal connections have already been established.

The most disappointing thing about this whole conversation is the fact that we are potentially losing Jason Saab - whom probably has more upside than most currently on our books and anyone available to recruit. Until recently I wasn't feeling positive about the lack of experience in our back five (and had we dug our heels in on Mary seeing out his deal or selected Young I'd probably be saying we needed to go all out for JAC, or an Alex Johnston, etc), but now that we have a coach coming in who understands the junior system, it's going to be a very interesting time.

 

[be55]

Some people should have their “Post New Thread” button disabled.

Yeah mate...2020 just keeps going from bad to worse...
Fires up and down the eastern seaboard,
Co-vid 19 killing over 900k people worldwide,
Businesses forced to close rendering thousands unemployed,
And now people creating unnecessary threads,
Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse

 

[blue bags]

Yeah mate...2020 just keeps going from bad to worse...
Fires up and down the eastern seaboard,
Co-vid 19 killing over 900k people worldwide,
Businesses forced to close rendering thousands unemployed,
And now people creating unnecessary threads,
Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse

yes its horrendous times, including the start a new thread buttons going off,
when will this madness end, phone lifeline, beyond blue

 

[blue bags]

SSE is a specialist left centre who can also play wing.
Shame there was no CC this year, I think he'd be right in the mix right now for a debut in 1st grade.

As for the Storm, they have Pap and Hynes, they don't need Dufty. Add to this is, if JAC was good at fb then Bellamy would give him a run there, I haven't seen that. As for JAC wing $$ v fullback $$, you can see where this is heading.

i would love to zee duffty, and JAC, play in the same team O.O that would be special i think

 

[SBD82]

Yeah mate...2020 just keeps going from bad to worse...
Fires up and down the eastern seaboard,
Co-vid 19 killing over 900k people worldwide,
Businesses forced to close rendering thousands unemployed,
And now people creating unnecessary threads,
Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse

It’s a reflection of your upstanding character that despite all that’s going on in the world, and all of the amazing things that you are doing to support people through this tough time, you’ve still made time to help me see the error of my ways.

I don’t like to use the term “hero” lightly, but sometimes there’s just no other option.