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You're a worry Ultra :lol:I don't go against all Marist traditions Paul
You're a worry Ultra :lol:I don't go against all Marist traditions Paul
I remember reading last year that the Brumbies crowds consume about 3 times the alcohol the Raiders crowds do. Pretty much sums up the difference in the two crowds.
Timbo said:Has it ever occured to you that comments like that are what make union people hate league....?
I like them both, I went to a Union school btw, but I enjoy league more. I can name the other 11 teams (Brumbies, Reds, Sharks, Stormers, Cats, Bulls, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues, Chiefs and Highlanders. As you can tell, I'm a Waratahs supporter) and I can name the starting 15 for the Tahs.
There is a huge bias on both sides vs. the other supporters.
BAY25 said:There is nothing wrong with that. To be honest I HATE part time supporters!! And don't want people to just jump on the band wagon from union to league when the Raiders start doing well.There is a huge bias on both sides vs. the other supporters
The down side to this is loss in revenue and over all crowed numbers, so I'd prefer to bite my tongue, have them spend their money and allow the Raiders Club to profit from it.
It's just a shame there isn't enough people in Canberra to adequately support both teams/codes. I don't support the Brumbies, never have, but it is a shame that I hate it when the Brumbies win. Because you know that there will be less supporters next week for the Raiders, and this continues until the Brumbies loose and the Raiders start to win. It's a SEE-SAW effect! The crowed just shift back and forth, while the teams go up and down the ladder.
burley griffin said:If we want to get crowds back then we are going to have to be successful over a number of years. If you remember back to the late 90s and early 00s, there was a period of about 2 or 3 years where the raiders averaged higher crowds than the Brumbies, even though the Brumbies had been far more successful. I think with this type of thing there is a bit of a lag, though the lag would be sped up significantly if the Brumbies started losing.
I think there needs to be something done on a promotional level too. The raiders were the team that gave Canberra a soul, whereas the Brumbies are a commercially manufactured piece of cardboard (much like many of their supporters). The fact that the majority of the Brumbies players actually live in Sydney speaks volumes for their artificiality. Maybe a tactful ad campaign that points this out would be nice (though i spose it could hardly be an official ad campaign).
skeepe said:Greeneyed if you bothered to read all the posts you would have noticed where I stated where they all come from. People DO actually know these things, believe it or not.
Now, I can honestly see arguments from both sides because I enjoy both games. Super 12 outselling league isn't exclusive to Canberra. Up here in Sydney, most Waratah's games sell 30-35,000 tickets. April 24th's NSW vs ACT match was sold out a long time ago.
Auckland's Super 12 crowds are much bigger than the Warriors crowds. And so on. It has a lot to do with marketability and, like it or not, rugby league just isn't marketable with everything that is going on in the game at the moment. Suits just don't feel comfortable being seen at a game like that, which is unfortunate because I do believe that rugby league is the better sport of the two.
greeneyed said:Waratahs games don't regularly sell over 30,000 tickets. 20-25,000 is the figure.
I remember reading last year that the Brumbies crowds consume about 3 times the alcohol the Raiders crowds do. Pretty much sums up the difference in the two crowds.
burley griffin said:Skeepe - to argue that the waratahs are more popular than rugby league in Sydney is ridiculous. For starters, the waratahs are a state side. If you want to argue on that level, then how many people go to a NSW home game for rugby league? (60-80,000). How many watch it on TV? (over a million). How many go to a waratahs game? (20-30,000). How many watch it on TV? (is it even on TV!?).
How many go to club rugby league games in Sydney? (10-25,000) How many watch it on TV? (300-800,000) How many go to club rugby union games in Sydney? (100 or 200 people) How many watch it on TV? (is it even on TV?!)
Timbo said:burley griffin said:Skeepe - to argue that the waratahs are more popular than rugby league in Sydney is ridiculous. For starters, the waratahs are a state side. If you want to argue on that level, then how many people go to a NSW home game for rugby league? (60-80,000). How many watch it on TV? (over a million). How many go to a waratahs game? (20-30,000). How many watch it on TV? (is it even on TV!?).
How many go to club rugby league games in Sydney? (10-25,000) How many watch it on TV? (300-800,000) How many go to club rugby union games in Sydney? (100 or 200 people) How many watch it on TV? (is it even on TV?!)
Yeah but if the Waratahs only had one or two home games a year then the numbers would be comprable.
And the Waratahs home crowd average has been around 30, 000 for the last few seasons.
Paullyboy said:Comments like the one I just read from BradtheRipper are disgusting. Fair enough you dont like who is sitting next to you - boo bloody hoo - we need to get bums on seats in order to see dollar signs.
Im disgraced at you Brad
BradtheRipper said:Paullyboy said:Comments like the one I just read from BradtheRipper are disgusting. Fair enough you dont like who is sitting next to you - boo bloody hoo - we need to get bums on seats in order to see dollar signs.
Im disgraced at you Brad
well me and the other 10000 loyalists, will be happy to pay $30 a game until you "goldfingers" get some f***ing passion.
how much money can i give you to f**k right off. 10, 50, 100 cents.
Stay green!