Why dont teams inside the 40 attack from the get go?

[GW.]

But the market wasn't flooded by eel copycats. In fact the dragons won in 2010 and that was hardly "jungle ball"

So uhh what the f**k is this shit about economics and market saturation.

Other teams dont have to adopt jungleball, they just adapt to defend those that have.

Like players, such as Utai, Sandow, Joe Williams and a lesser extent Barba etc. They BURST onto the scene because they are a little different, they mix it up with a little bit of flair and spice. However, other coaches take note, and they evolve to take them down.

What happened with parra '09 was the team equivalent of this example.

PS. I really should be a coach I think. I have all the moves.

 

[GW.]

Utai is the perfect example actually.

Little chicken nugget with fat, strong tongan cannonball legs reframing the wing position, playing a position in a way no one had seen play before, an evolution on the Nadruku and Taniela bodytype. Very tough to tackle.

When the coaches figured out they could explot his Oompa loompa height, they just bombed him, he became obsolete overnight!

Coach GW would have moved him into the centres at this point to play Konrad Hurrellesque....
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[ACTPanthers]

Can you go jack off to your own ego somewhere else please...? You're making me feel uncomfortable.

 

[Frank Discussion]

Other teams dont have to adopt jungleball, they just adapt to defend those that have.

Like players, such as Utai, Sandow, Joe Williams and a lesser extent Barba etc. They BURST onto the scene because they are a little different, they mix it up with a little bit of flair and spice. However, other coaches take note, and they evolve to take them down.

What happened with parra '09 was the team equivalent of this example.

PS. I really should be a coach I think. I have all the moves.

There are scores of vacant volunteer coaching positions throughout the junior league and amateur landscapes. Go down to your local club and put your hand up and see how you go. I did it and learned some hard lessons about what I thought I knew about the game. The courses that the clubs put you through at no charge are excellent.

If you live in or near the Sutherland Shire I can get you into a gig overnight.

 

[Rhino_NQ]

my cats breath smells like catfood

 

[jaseg]

This is just putting into words the cowardly theory of brainless coaches who come from in the system and cannot see beyond the old regular methods.
When teams break with these theories (eg: 5 minutes to go with 2 tries needed) team with lead craps themselves because predictability goes out the window and pursuing team gets creative - usually to great effect. This is when the game looks great.
Parra did away with these old structures in 09 and teams did not know what the hell to do about it.

That's because when teams do that stuff their result variance shoots up. But variance works both ways - plenty of times teams try to do this and fail, and you only seem to be considering the times that it actually works out. I'd guess that's less than a 50/50. Also, high variance actions usually work better in short, targeted periods for a whole bunch of reasons. Start trying to play 80 minutes that way and watch your overalls drop. In more ways than one (yes, that was a sodomy joke. sorry).

The Walkers are different again - much of what they seem to be coaching is actually about identifying the real percentage play (their kicks offs are an example of this - they believe it's the percentage play) and always taking it.

 

[Captain Apollo]

 

[GW.]

There are scores of vacant volunteer coaching positions throughout the junior league and amateur landscapes. Go down to your local club and put your hand up and see how you go. I did it and learned some hard lessons about what I thought I knew about the game. The courses that the clubs put you through at no charge are excellent.

If you live in or near the Sutherland Shire I can get you into a gig overnight.

I live in Epping on Carlingford Road. Not much league here really, its all asian/union.

Do you have any contacts in the Sydney Shield/Massey cup? That would be a good start for me I think.

 

[Charlie124]

Get in the bin.

 

[Hutty1986]

What is "attack"

 

[McLovin]

I'm 90% sure that GW is Paul Langmack...

 

[Arnold]

Haven't read the full thread but if this is about how teams play etc it's always baffled me why teams don't kick for touch from a 20metre restart.

The wingers don't drop back and if a player can't kick it from the 20 make it bounce once then go out then that is sad.

 

[Pete Cash]

Haven't read the full thread but if this is about how teams play etc it's always baffled me why teams don't kick for touch from a 20metre restart.

The wingers don't drop back and if a player can't kick it from the 20 make it bounce once then go out then that is sad.

7 tackle restarts means it's not that necessary.

 

[shinobi]

Utai is the perfect example actually.

Little chicken nugget with fat, strong tongan cannonball legs reframing the wing position, playing a position in a way no one had seen play before, an evolution on the Nadruku and Taniela bodytype. Very tough to tackle.

When the coaches figured out they could explot his Oompa loompa height, they just bombed him, he became obsolete overnight!

Coach GW would have moved him into the centres at this point to play Konrad Hurrellesque....
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Utai is samoan

 

[GW.]

Right now I think the best makeup of a team is;
1.whippety fullback (billy slater/Moylan)
2.tall quick winger who can catch a bomb (Matt Duffy/Brad Morris)
3. Big attacking centre (Konrad hurrel, Paul Jennings etc)
4. Defensive centre (josh Morris or Brad cooper)
5 big islander singer like manu vatuvei

6/7

No real body type- but as we have seen from the Tigers, make sure at least one can hold their own in defence

8- huge guy, possibly islander. Battering ram
9. Hooker - whatever suits coaching style. Farah type seems best, but I think an Adam perry or Jason heathrington defensive hooker is good
10 workmanlike prop who does big minutes. Aussie/pom. Aiden tolman or that redhead Pom Graham
11. Workmanlike second rower( Jackson or Gary Warburton type)
12 big hard dubbing second rower on the fringe Pritchard or Thaiday
13 interchangeable. I'd personally go for a Bryce Cartwright / Jason smith big ball playing type
14 and 15/ huge props rotating
16 second rower rotator
17 utility that can go anywhere. Mayb to winger and have the Norris type of winger drop back

I'd also play around with positioning in the field. I'd like to see the pack in the scrum for instance And have a devastating backline from tackle one. Hide halves on the wing etc. have defensive centre Mark dangermen etc

 

[Card Shark]

I live in Epping on Carlingford Road. Not much league here really, its all asian/union.

Do you have any contacts in the Sydney Shield/Massey cup? That would be a good start for me I think.

Personally, I think you'd be more suited to first grade.

Go see Peter Doust.

 

[McLovin]

Right now I think the best makeup of a team is;
1.whippety fullback (billy slater/Moylan)
2.tall quick winger who can catch a bomb (Matt Duffy/Brad Morris)
3. Big attacking centre (Konrad hurrel, Paul Jennings etc)
4. Defensive centre (josh Morris or Brad cooper)
5 big islander singer like manu vatuvei

6/7

No real body type- but as we have seen from the Tigers, make sure at least one can hold their own in defence

8- huge guy, possibly islander. Battering ram
9. Hooker - whatever suits coaching style. Farah type seems best, but I think an Adam perry or Jason heathrington defensive hooker is good
10 workmanlike prop who does big minutes. Aussie/pom. Aiden tolman or that redhead Pom Graham
11. Workmanlike second rower( Jackson or Gary Warburton type)
12 big hard dubbing second rower on the fringe Pritchard or Thaiday
13 interchangeable. I'd personally go for a Bryce Cartwright / Jason smith big ball playing type
14 and 15/ huge props rotating
16 second rower rotator
17 utility that can go anywhere. Mayb to winger and have the Norris type of winger drop back

I'd also play around with positioning in the field. I'd like to see the pack in the scrum for instance And have a devastating backline from tackle one. Hide halves on the wing etc. have defensive centre Mark dangermen etc

Racist

 

[GW.]

Personally, I think you'd be more suited to first grade.

Go see Peter Doust.

I think so but not straight away. I need a few years to develop s feel for set plays, also I'm not fully sure on defensive patterns and how to coach it. My expertise is developing attack and instinct

 

[Frank Discussion]

I think so but not straight away. I need a few years to develop s feel for set plays, also I'm not fully sure on defensive patterns and how to coach it. My expertise is developing attack and instinct

Nah. Who needs set plays when you can pick your team based on body size.

I reckon you will kill it!

 

[Barkley]

3. Big attacking centre (Konrad hurrel, Paul Jennings etc)

Not only a big attacking centre but also a best selling children's author.