Winning vs Losing

[Parra Pride]

f**k that, I'd rather win than lose just to see Kearney leave quicker.

#WinsAreMuchBetter

 

[Parraren]

f**k that, I'd rather win than lose just to see Kearney leave quicker.

#WinsAreMuchBetter

I honestly don't think it matters if we win lose or draw over the next few weeks.

The decision has already been made to part ways with SK.

They just need to lock in a suitable replacement, hence the delay.

Thats my opinion and i'm not Ken Crapper.

 

[Eels Dude]

I'm a supporter. I just can't hack seeing ad-lib football and then being disappointed when it lets us down during a big occasion or the lack of consistency. It's entertaining to watch, but I want long term success and consistency in my football team.

Do you think we're on the right track for that though? I'd be confident in his ability if we were but he's done nothing to prove he can deliver that in 18 months in the job. He's only proved the opposite.

 

[SDM]

I will be at Penriff on the weekend and hope to see us get up. You are all soft merkins.

 

[JoeyJoJo83]

I just want us winning, whether it's Kearney figuring out how to get the best out of the "lads" or bringing in a new head coach who has the ability to get the best out of his players.

Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The coaches who win are the ones who can motivate their players

 

[Gronk]

Ricky Stuart's comments the other night about coaching NRL again was a worry.

On the question about taking any job at an NRL club, he's response was that he would not just take the first job offered and that he wanted to be successful. The job would only be taken if the circumstances were right.

Gee he'll want to be patient if he is expecting those kind of results with us.

 

[Eels Dude]

Ricky Stuart's comments the other night about coaching NRL again was a worry.

On the question about taking any job at an NRL club, he's response was that he would not just take the first job offered and that he wanted to be successful. The job would only be taken if the circumstances were right.

Gee he'll want to be patient if he is expecting those kind of results with us.

I'd be more worried if he said he'd take any NRL job he could get. That just screams desperation.

 

[Stagger eel]

there's nothing better than seeing your footy team win under any circumstances but I'm starting to take comfort that with every loss comes the realisation that change is about to happen, I think it will happen either this weekend or the next and once it does we need start a clean slate and go through some pain to give our new head coach the time he needs to impliment a success plan for the future.

Dark times ahead..but I'd like to think we can look back at this in 5 years time from a mountain top and appreciate what we will have in the future.

 

[Utey]

Do you think we're on the right track for that though? I'd be confident in his ability if we were but he's done nothing to prove he can deliver that in 18 months in the job. He's only proved the opposite.

I think the signs last year were good without winning, this year has been tough to stomach... We've certainly gone backwards with what is arguably a stronger squad. Club culture can't be changed overnight and he's obviously taken on a tough project due to the sh*t at the front office and the like. I would rather a few lean years if it meant we were stronger in the long term.

Whether or note that happens, who knows. I doubt Kearney will be here to steer the bus for much longer. If he doesn't and success is achieved with another head coach, whose to say it wasn't due to the Kearney influence.

 

[Wise Old Eel]

I can't believe how many people are actually shocked that he failed. Seriously, the amount of people who put their faith in a bloke who had never coached (on a fulltime basis) ANY grade of Rugby League before astounds me.

Let's hope the club takes their time and seeks out the right man for the job this time around.

WOE

 

[Eels Dude]

I think the signs last year were good without winning, this year has been tough to stomach... We've certainly gone backwards with what is arguably a stronger squad. Club culture can't be changed overnight and he's obviously taken on a tough project due to the sh*t at the front office and the like. I would rather a few lean years if it meant we were stronger in the long term.

Whether or note that happens, who knows. I doubt Kearney will be here to steer the bus for much longer. If he doesn't and success is achieved with another head coach, whose to say it wasn't due to the Kearney influence.

That's your opinion and I can respect that. But if it were the Stephen Kearney influence that would affect the changing of that culture then we would be seeing evidence of that already but we haven't seen any at all. These are more than just lean years, they are disastrous years.

If another coach comes in and our team starts to play with more confidence, improve their work ethic commitment to each other and he is able to turn us into a successful side, then all it shows is that the problem was with Kearney himself.

 

[emjaycee]

I think they will keep him but only if they have the stones to risk their seat on the board.
That is all.

 

[Eels Dude]

I can't believe how many people are actually shocked that he failed. Seriously, the amount of people who put their faith in a bloke who had never coached (on a fulltime basis) ANY grade of Rugby League before astounds me.

Let's hope the club takes their time and seeks out the right man for the job this time around.

WOE

The thing is we need someone at the club with the footballing knowledge to identify that coach. I don't know how confident I'd be in Bob Bentley deciding who our coach should be next year. Penrith brought in Phil Gould as their CEO or thereabouts last year as he has the footballing knowledge and he identified Ivan Cleary as a suitable candidate. Guess we'll wait and see.

 

[emjaycee]

The thing is we need someone at the club with the footballing knowledge to identify that coach. I don't know how confident I'd be in Bob Bentley deciding who our coach should be next year. Penrith brought in Phil Gould as their CEO or thereabouts last year as he has the footballing knowledge and he identified Ivan Cleary as a suitable candidate. Guess we'll wait and see.

And that's working a treat for Penrith.

 

[Delboy]

emjay, the real question is that there appears little substance to what we hoped was a good visionary plan. The team has gone backwards, SK has no media image, the signings we expected from NZ and other NRL teams have not materialised, and the fans have obviously had enough

The real stones they need is to make a decision, get an experienced media savvy coach on board and move forward, as much as I want to like SK and Nolan, we have seen little progress. The kids are getting smashed in U20s and I dont want them scarred as their careers have just started

 

[Eels Dude]

And that's working a treat for Penrith.

They're still going better than us with a far worse team. They were always going to have a disappointing year with that squad, like us last year. They are a step ahead of us IMO with getting someone like Gould involved with the club in a management position.

 

[Gronk]

And that's working a treat for Penrith.

How is their 2013 recruitment coming along compared to ours ?

 

[forward pass]

I can never say I want us to lose - never.

However, I defended SK as I really, really believed he had some very good ideas and plans for our future. In fact I still believe he has.

Regrettably, that is only part of his role and the straight up football coaching side of his role has shown that he is simply not up to it. A real shame.

I actually wouldn't mind if the club kept him in a role that would allow him to oversee the club structure, academy and planning. That would mean that the first grade coach only has to worry about the squad, game plans, tactics and recruitment (with SK). Could that work? I am not sure but either way I hope we can continue with whatever plans SK was putting in place because it sounds like they had merit. Lussick confirmed this when he signed and obviously young Hoppa was impressed with them too.

But simply put, having watched the side on Saturday, it confirmed that they are miles behind every other side in so many aspects. He has to go.

I am also hearing he has lost the players but others closer to the side may be able to confirm or deny that.

 

[emjaycee]

emjay, the real question is that there appears little substance to what we hoped was a good visionary plan. The team has gone backwards, SK has no media image, the signings we expected from NZ and other NRL teams have not materialised, and the fans have obviously had enough

The real stones they need is to make a decision, get an experienced media savvy coach on board and move forward, as much as I want to like SK and Nolan, we have seen little progress. The kids are getting smashed in U20s and I dont want them scarred as their careers have just started

delboy, you're an astute guy and I hazard a guess you have some business nous.
To me this is a short term glitch in a long term strategic change... Any company needs a strong board willing to go the distance when making this level of change.

3p came to power on the back of a change platform. No one said it would be easy, painless or quick.
So do the directors have the power of their convictions or are they politicians first and foremost.

 

[emjaycee]

How is their 2013 recruitment coming along compared to ours ?

Sorry, I thought it was all about instant results.
My bad.