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Wobbo’s Whinges

Colk

First Grade
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This narrative always gets a good run complete with 2013 never getting a mention for some reason nor the fact that almost half his work comes prior to Cooper Cronk. The facts are below

2013 - 1st (premiers)
2014 - 1st (PF)
2015 - 1st (PF)
2016 - 15th
2017 - 2nd (PF)
2018 - 1st (premiers)
2019 - 2nd (premiers)
2020 - 4th (SF)
2021 - 5th (SF)
2022 - 6th (EF)
2023 - 7th (SF)
2024 - Top 4 (TBD)

So that all equals

- 11 finals appearances
- 8 top 4 finishes
- 4 MP
- 3 GFs
- 3 premierships
- 14-10 in finals games

Elite by anyone's definition. You can keep hating if you want but we will gladly keep him

Bellamy in the same timeframe. It's the best comparison as he has a) coached the whole time b) been at the one club and c) had the services of cooper Cronk for 5 of those seasons

2013 - 3rd (SF)
2014 - 6th (EF)
2015 - 4th (PF)
2016 - 1st (GF)
2017 - 1st (premiers)
2018 - 2nd (GF)
2019 - 1st (PF)
2020 - 2nd (premiers)
2021 - 1st (PF)
2022 - 5th (EF)
2023 - 3rd (PF)
2024 - 1st (TBD)

- 12 finals appearances
- 10 top 4 finishes
- 5 MP
- 4 GF
- 2 Premierships
- 14-12 in finals games

You really are hitting the pipe hard to compare the modern day Tim Sheens to that of probably the greatest coach of all time.
 

Chief_Chujo

First Grade
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8,136
(millions of dollars worth of talent brought in)
2013 - 1st (premiers)
2014 - 1st (PF)
2015 - 1st (PF)
2016 - 15th
2017 - 2nd (PF)
(millions of dollars worth of talent brought in)
2018 - 1st (premiers)
2019 - 2nd (premiers)
2020 - 4th (SF)
2021 - 5th (SF)
2022 - 6th (EF)
2023 - 7th (SF)
2024 - Top 4 (TBD)
Fixed it for you. Comparison to bellyache is a joke as well because the scum lose talent unlike your mob.
 
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This narrative always gets a good run complete with 2013 never getting a mention for some reason nor the fact that almost half his work comes prior to Cooper Cronk. The facts are below

2013 - 1st (premiers)
2014 - 1st (PF)
2015 - 1st (PF)
2016 - 15th
2017 - 2nd (PF)
2018 - 1st (premiers)
2019 - 2nd (premiers)
2020 - 4th (SF)
2021 - 5th (SF)
2022 - 6th (EF)
2023 - 7th (SF)
2024 - Top 4 (TBD)

So that all equals

- 11 finals appearances
- 8 top 4 finishes
- 4 MP
- 3 GFs
- 3 premierships
- 14-10 in finals games

Elite by anyone's definition. You can keep hating if you want but we will gladly keep him

Bellamy in the same timeframe. It's the best comparison as he has a) coached the whole time b) been at the one club and c) had the services of cooper Cronk for 5 of those seasons

2013 - 3rd (SF)
2014 - 6th (EF)
2015 - 4th (PF)
2016 - 1st (GF)
2017 - 1st (premiers)
2018 - 2nd (GF)
2019 - 1st (PF)
2020 - 2nd (premiers)
2021 - 1st (PF)
2022 - 5th (EF)
2023 - 3rd (PF)
2024 - 1st (TBD)

- 12 finals appearances
- 10 top 4 finishes
- 5 MP
- 4 GF
- 2 Premierships
- 14-12 in finals games
You made a mistake 2018 & 2019 as Cooper Cronk was Captain and Coach.

Interesting coaching statistics since Cooper retired……..
 

Maximus

Coach
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13,816
The ref handled it very poorly and said nothing for what seemed like a long time until he then said play on and quickly after surrender.

You keep repeating this, but have you actually watched it?

He called play on immediately after Smith dived on the ball. After he didn't move for 2-3 secs, the ref called surrender. The ref handled it exactly the way he was supposed to.
 

Valheru

Coach
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19,220
Fixed it for you. Comparison to bellyache is a joke as well because the scum lose talent unlike your mob.
Bellamy has had superior talent to the roosters. He still hasn't won a comp without Smith (might change this year) and has only won one without all of Smith, Slater and Cronk in the team.

Even their spine now is superior to ours

Paps
Hughes
Munster
Grant

Vs

Teddy
Walker
Keary
Cheese

Stop pretending Bellamy doesn't have all time talent at his disposal and has done his whole coaching career.
 

Valheru

Coach
Messages
19,220
You really are hitting the pipe hard to compare the modern day Tim Sheens to that of probably the greatest coach of all time.
That's just the best comparison, everyone else falls short over that same time-frame

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
 

Colk

First Grade
Messages
6,750
That's just the best comparison, everyone else falls short over that same time-frame

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

🤣🤣That take is probably the furthest from hurting my feelings. Providing good entertainment.
 

Colk

First Grade
Messages
6,750
Bellamy has had superior talent to the roosters. He still hasn't won a comp without Smith (might change this year) and has only won one without all of Smith, Slater and Cronk in the team.

Even their spine now is superior to ours

Paps
Hughes
Munster
Grant

Vs

Teddy
Walker
Keary
Cheese

Stop pretending Bellamy doesn't have all time talent at his disposal and has done his whole coaching career.

You’re making a point. Not the one you think you are making but a point nonetheless.
 
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I remember about a decade ago one of his players knocked a saints player out with a high tackle during an Anzac day game. Then after the game he had a cry about players staying down. I couldn't believe it. But after watching him in action all these years I actually can believe it now.

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He had a whinge about Aitken laying down when clearly collected high.

Meanwhile us poor ol’ Dargons are dealing with Torvill Teddy the roller-skating Limbo Champion.
 

soc123_au

Moderator
Staff member
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Quotes from Brandon Smith @Valheru

He said his own poor understanding of the rules contributed to the injury, and offered a tip for young players.

"It was a little bit of my f--k up ... when I dived on the ball, no one touched me. I thought Elliot was trying to do a little sneaky, coz he's a little cunning bastard.

"I've seen circumstances where if you get up and play the ball when no one's touched you, it's a knock-on because it's a voluntary tackle.

"So I got up to try and get away so he wouldn't tackle me again.


"If you're a young player, learn the rules. It might cost you an ACL."

Source https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/oth...TS&cvid=48cd0517c0ef42c799a90b0f2fb2224a&ei=7
 
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