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WTF is going on .. no one wants to come to parra!!

Parraren

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Alot of people are talking about Tahu as the centre we should go for. Just 2 things. Firstly he's not a specialist centre and has always played his best football on the wing. Secondly he seems to always break down with injury; hamstring & ankles. I'm not so sure about him and we'd be in a bidding war with Manly & Newcastle for him, he'll want minimum $300k gauranteed.

Not many people have suggested Ryan Cross from the Roosters who is a specialist centre. Has been playing strongly for the Roosters over the past 2 years and I think it would be good to get a player from a strong, well coached club like the Roosters. Look what it did for Grothe Jnr, he came back a different player. There is talk of him going to Yawnion (isn't there always? :roll: ) but if he wants to stay in League I think we should be talking to him.
 

The Colonel

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I agree. Tahu wants to be a centre. It doesn't mean he is one. We have some great young finishers in the club in Anderson, Grothe, Burt, Graham and some of the young guys in the lower grades and a quality player like Cross can set up his outside support.
 

Mighty Tiger

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On Pritchard he will be at 1 of 3 clubs next year

Panthers - He is there now

Souths - Because the CEO will lure him on the provision they get Abrahme (his brother) out of his contract with Western Suburbs

Tigers - Because he loves the club, he still wears Wests Tigers shorts to training and that is saying something because he hasn't been around the club for just over 2yrs now, and he has always said he would love to come back over any other club.

Parraren I'm with you - I am very surprised that no one has talked about Cross because he hasn't been resigned by the Roosters yet and i doubt they could infact keep him at the club whilst remaining under the salary cap but in saying that Cross has always said he wants to play union so he could head over that way.

To the guys saying you don't need Head, Firman and Orford well you are idiots because these guys are quality where as the blokes you have are far from it!!!
 

PARRA_FAN

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HAVEFAITHBOYS said:
head, riddell, orford, firman, smith, ... all players who were tipped to come to parra arnt any more...

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Like any of them had a chance to play with Parramatta.

Head- good half, keen to stay at St.George

Ridell- good player, didnt really need him not an 80 minute player, Morris is better

Orford- wants to play for the Central Coast

Firman- didnt really need him if we have Witt, T Smith, Dykes, Thorman and co.

J Smith- isnt he like 33 yrs old???, Luke O'Dwyer can cover those positions.
 

Eels Dude

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ceselpopajesel said:
This is how i see it. if we have a mill to spend then we should offer morrison and tahu good amounts to come here and let go of muspratt,vella,kativerata,langi,pearson,kaufusi and thorman as these guys have produced nothin.

also just to through out a name but i've been watchin some of the silent type players u could say and one guy from canberra who comes off contract this season that is scoring tries regularly and a very strong defensive winger/ventre is Micheal Robertson. This would be a great buy and for a little cost of 80-100k if that

I think you're being a bit harsh on some of those players. Vella especially has served us well for 6 years. Langi has been ok and cost us next to nothing. It's not sensible to let go 7 players to sign 2. If they get injured, Morrison and Tahu have spent a considerable amount of time on the sideline this year, then we have no players to back em up.
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
To the guys saying you don't need Head, Firman and Orford well you are idiots because these guys are quality where as the blokes you have are far from it!!!

Head has had one good year - he is a great player in the making but he isn't top class yet.

Firman is a good half and with his injuries (and the fact he has now signed at the Rorters) would be as good a gamble as we have now.

Orford - $500k for one season, with the chance he'll run if CC get in? Realistically 12 months is too short to expect gains from such a move.

Witt and Dykes have won us plenty of games this year and had Witt played at the start of the season I can guarantee that they would be talking about him if he had the chance Prince got through injuries to Berrigan, Seymour and Marsh. The Qld selectors did see enough in Witt to name him in the Emerging Qld squad. ;-)
 

Eels Dude

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Parraren said:
Alot of people are talking about Tahu as the centre we should go for. Just 2 things. Firstly he's not a specialist centre and has always played his best football on the wing. Secondly he seems to always break down with injury; hamstring & ankles. I'm not so sure about him and we'd be in a bidding war with Manly & Newcastle for him, he'll want minimum $300k gauranteed.

Not many people have suggested Ryan Cross from the Roosters who is a specialist centre. Has been playing strongly for the Roosters over the past 2 years and I think it would be good to get a player from a strong, well coached club like the Roosters. Look what it did for Grothe Jnr, he came back a different player. There is talk of him going to Yawnion (isn't there always? :roll: ) but if he wants to stay in League I think we should be talking to him.

Tahu started out in first grade as a centre, and grabbed everyone's attention there. He was moved to the wing so Matt Gidley and Mark Hughes could both fit in the side. He can handle centre though. I agree with you though, 300 k isn't worth it for a player who's injury proned and liable to defensive lapses. Cross would be a good aquisition. He's yet to taste origin glory but has that potential, a good replacement for Lyon he would be.
 

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Colonel Eel said:
Head has had one good year - he is a great player in the making but he isn't top class yet.

But he is better than what you have at the moment!

Colonel Eel said:
Firman is a good half and with his injuries (and the fact he has now signed at the Rorters) would be as good a gamble as we have now.

LOL yeah well no point talking about Firman now lol

Colonel Eel said:
Orford - $500k for one season, with the chance he'll run if CC get in? Realistically 12 months is too short to expect gains from such a move.

Look what you need to realise is that if the CC side does not get the go ahead then he will more than likely stay with the club he is at now - that is why the Storm will agree to a 1yr deal.

Also he is in the top 4 halves in the game anyone with out a top line half would be stupid unless you had something special already on your books not to go after him.

Colonel Eel said:
Witt and Dykes have won us plenty of games this year and had Witt played at the start of the season I can guarantee that they would be talking about him if he had the chance Prince got through injuries to Berrigan, Seymour and Marsh. The Qld selectors did see enough in Witt to name him in the Emerging Qld squad. ;-)

I think Witt is a great talent but he isn't in the same class as the ones mentioned above and not just that Witt could also slot into the 5/8th role or vica verca

Dykes is a waste of space and always will be, the Sharks saw that and well look who they replaced him with - he isn't one of the top halfs and never will be - the quicker you get rid of him the better all round your side will be
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Colonel Eel said:
Head has had one good year - he is a great player in the making but he isn't top class yet.

But he is better than what you have at the moment!

He has had more games this year than Witt, IMO he is on par with Dykes despite the points decision. The second year will see how well he handles it. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the blue and gold but doubt it will happen.

Colonel Eel said:
Orford - $500k for one season, with the chance he'll run if CC get in? Realistically 12 months is too short to expect gains from such a move.

Look what you need to realise is that if the CC side does not get the go ahead then he will more than likely stay with the club he is at now - that is why the Storm will agree to a 1yr deal.

Also he is in the top 4 halves in the game anyone with out a top line half would be stupid unless you had something special already on your books not to go after him.

He is in the top four however the risk at Melbourne is far less than taking him to a new club and having to fit him in amongst the team and have the team adjust to his style. Knowing that he could piss off after 12 months isn't going to make him overly popular either IMO.

Colonel Eel said:
Witt and Dykes have won us plenty of games this year and had Witt played at the start of the season I can guarantee that they would be talking about him if he had the chance Prince got through injuries to Berrigan, Seymour and Marsh. The Qld selectors did see enough in Witt to name him in the Emerging Qld squad. ;-)

I think Witt is a great talent but he isn't in the same class as the ones mentioned above and not just that Witt could also slot into the 5/8th role or vica verca

Dykes is a waste of space and always will be, the Sharks saw that and well look who they replaced him with - he isn't one of the top halfs and never will be - the quicker you get rid of him the better all round your side will be


I believe with the right amount of time that Witt will play in the same class as those mentioned above.

Dykes has struggled when he arrived, and didn't do a hell of a lot last year. He has shown what he is capable of and while I'd like to see him change his style a little I think he is capable of the same form that took him to the Dally M 5/8 award. BTW, the Sharks weren't to impressed when he took the money over staying with them - they never let him go.
 

thedux

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I know people have mentioned before that Tate won't leave the broncos, but you have start wondering why he hasn't re-signed at this late stage if they thought he was the future of the club. Obviously everything is not all roses between him and the club and I reckon and decent offer could persuade him to move elsewhere.

As for Orford, I don't think that the CC will get the new franchise because I think that too much resistance will come from Newcastle and the NRL would love to see some of the Bronco's dominance petered-out with a side on the GC. I think if we have a chance to sign Orford we give him the clauses because there are no guarantees he will exercise them even if given the chance. Look at the Gower situation with his get-out clause. It's amazing what one good season can do to a person emotionally.
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Colonel Eel said:
Head has had one good year - he is a great player in the making but he isn't top class yet.

But he is better than what you have at the moment!

Colonel Eel said:
Firman is a good half and with his injuries (and the fact he has now signed at the Rorters) would be as good a gamble as we have now.

LOL yeah well no point talking about Firman now lol

Colonel Eel said:
Orford - $500k for one season, with the chance he'll run if CC get in? Realistically 12 months is too short to expect gains from such a move.

Look what you need to realise is that if the CC side does not get the go ahead then he will more than likely stay with the club he is at now - that is why the Storm will agree to a 1yr deal.

Also he is in the top 4 halves in the game anyone with out a top line half would be stupid unless you had something special already on your books not to go after him.

Colonel Eel said:
Witt and Dykes have won us plenty of games this year and had Witt played at the start of the season I can guarantee that they would be talking about him if he had the chance Prince got through injuries to Berrigan, Seymour and Marsh. The Qld selectors did see enough in Witt to name him in the Emerging Qld squad. ;-)

I think Witt is a great talent but he isn't in the same class as the ones mentioned above and not just that Witt could also slot into the 5/8th role or vica verca

Dykes is a waste of space and always will be, the Sharks saw that and well look who they replaced him with - he isn't one of the top halfs and never will be - the quicker you get rid of him the better all round your side will be
MT, dykes isn't a waste of space, you dont win awards such as Dally M player of the year unless your one of the BEST. The next time the eels play the Tigers will be interesting, dykes v prince, except parras team will have about 10 new faces from the one that played the tigers a month ago! :p Also, dont forget the first 6-7 weeks of the comp, wasn't he one of the leading halves in the comp? I think he was, only problem is some people have short memories!
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Look what you need to realise is that if the CC side does not get the go ahead then he will more than likely stay with the club he is at now - that is why the Storm will agree to a 1yr deal.

Also he is in the top 4 halves in the game anyone with out a top line half would be stupid unless you had something special already on your books not to go after him.

Club's who don't chase him are stupid?

Stupid = any club who are willing to pay 500k for a one season deal on a player.

Stupid = signing any quality halfback to a one season deal, you want to build your side around a halfback, not have him up and leave as soon as he's settled in.

Stupid = thinking Matt Orford is worth anywhere near that amount of money. Potential wise i'd rate 5th best halfback in the game behind Johns, Gower, Kimmorley, and Sherwin. There should only be 3 or 4 players in the game deserving of 500k a season, Matt, as much as he'd like to think he is, is not one of them.
 

Parraren

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Forget about Matt Head he was never even given permission to negotiate with other clubs by the Dragons. Now that Firman is gone expect the Dragons to announce Head's signature very very soon along with a few other young Dragons and possibly Riddell. The longer Riddell's signature is not announced the more likely he's having second thoughts and may still be a chance to join the Eels. I'm tipping if nothing is announced re Riddell by the weekend he'll be an Eel next year.
 

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unfortunatly it's not as clear cut as that! Head is affectively taking Firmins contract money while Riddell looks like staying due to Kite going to Canberra which will be confirmed soon.
 

Parraren

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I reckon it will probably pan out this way;

- They'll re-sign Hornby, Ryles & Riddell.

- They'll probably lose Kite as they have alot of dept in the forwards.

For the right money it would be great to get Riddell but I think the Dragons will be crazy to let him go. I'm sure they'll find a way to keep him but the longer it drags out, well you never know...
 

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I think a lot of people forget the location,

If you were a professional footballer, being close to "work" would be a huge factor, as well as the fringe benefits that come with it eg surf/beach, reputation of region etc.....

As far as fringe benefits go, Unfortunatley Parramatta hasnt got a lot to offer as oppossed to some other clubs
 
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