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WWE ROYAL RUMBLE 2009 results and ratings (spoilers, duh!)

Ridders

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Gotta agree with Missy, Rey Rey winning the rumble was one of the greatest jokes of all.
 
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My main concern with the rumble was, and i am glad Orton won, he is best thing going in WWE.

The rumble got very slow in lots of patches, there was too many in the ring, they seem just to be walking around.

The Undertaker seemed to be so distinterested, i am sick of him getting late number, he needs to be give 1 or 2.

Kozlov, why was he dumped so early, you would expect him to last quite a while.

The number 30 should have been MVP, or have him make final 4, did you notice the crowd support for MVP when he came out, i was never big supporter of MVP but i notice a change, something he can step up

Big Show pulling Undertaker down, why cant he just be elimanted like the rest, to me that shows ego problem, he should put someone over, Benjamin should have elimanted Undertaker, as they have bee having some good matches.

Ted Dibiase making last 3, that was excellent, he is very talented just needs to continue way he is going.

No Mr Kennedy i thought he was fit and ready.

I think why the negativity to the rumble, we were all waiting for Christian, he didnt appear in Edge v Hardy, so the anticipation in the rumble was huge, and he didnt appear, i think that is where a lot of people may be coming from
 

Jono078

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The Undertaker seemed to be so distinterested, i am sick of him getting late number, he needs to be give 1 or 2.

Big Show pulling Undertaker down, why cant he just be elimanted like the rest, to me that shows ego problem, he should put someone over, Benjamin should have elimanted Undertaker, as they have bee having some good matches.
Undertaker was #1 last year..

Big Show ego problem? lol.. I just don't get that elimination because a lot of eliminations lead to matches at WM and they've already had 2-3 matches at WM, been there done that.

The rest I agree with.
 
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Jono, sorry mate i emeant Undertaker ego problem there, a clean elimination by Benjamin would ahve been great, and i agree we dont want Big Show v Undertaker yet again
 
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I thought the opener was solid, the womans match was very good and the Smackdown world title match also delivered. Loved the finish. Cena/JBL was terrible and even my girlfriend, who neeeever watches wrestling, commented on how terrible Michaels was at playing his "paid lackey" role.

The Rumble match was very good, Rey Misterio was the MVP for mine, and RVD returning was a markout moment. Loved the Legacy's gangbashing in the Rumble, and the moment between Rhodes and Goldust. Disliked heavily Triple H's self booked performance however, he is so unbelievably ego driven it isnt funny.

Overall, solid PPV and cant wait for NWO.
 
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I thought the opener was solid, the womans match was very good and the Smackdown world title match also delivered. Loved the finish. Cena/JBL was terrible and even my girlfriend, who neeeever watches wrestling, commented on how terrible Michaels was at playing his "paid lackey" role.

The Rumble match was very good, Rey Misterio was the MVP for mine, and RVD returning was a markout moment. Loved the Legacy's gangbashing in the Rumble, and the moment between Rhodes and Goldust. Disliked heavily Triple H's self booked performance however, he is so unbelievably ego driven it isnt funny.

Overall, solid PPV and cant wait for NWO.

agreed 100%. Look at his past performances

2009: Longest survivor, last eliminated
2008: Last eliminated (got himself into Mania main event)
2007: Injured
2006: Entered 1, 2nd last eliminated
2005: World Champion coming into event
2004: ditto 05
 
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agreed 100%. Look at his past performances

2009: Longest survivor, last eliminated
2008: Last eliminated (got himself into Mania main event)
2007: Injured
2006: Entered 1, 2nd last eliminated
2005: World Champion coming into event
2004: ditto 05

Agree, a better way would have been Triple H, and Kozlove elimanting each other, then fight outside ring setting up Mania match, we all know Triple H, holds massive sway in company but putting others over sometimes is more important
 

Misanthrope

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My thoughts

Swagger (c) vs. Hardy
It was a decent match, but not really anything we needed to see on PPV. I doubt it got any buys for the event. Swagger looks like he has a future with his 'pure wrestling' style.
RATING: 4/10

Phoenix vs. Melina
I need to go back and re-watch this. I went and had a shower while it was on.

Cena vs. JBL
As a match, it wasn't at all remarkable. But HBK's presence and the psychology surrounding that made it my favourite clash of the evening outside of the Rumble. The story told was a good one, although I was personally rooting for a JBL win so HBK could somehow get a title shot and we'd see JBL vs. HBK for the title at Mania. Now it looks like we'll see more of Cena.
RATING: 6.5/10

Edge vs. Jeff Hardy
A bit of a dud, really. I like both workers in recent months, but they just didn't have a great deal of chemistry. The sole decent moment was the ladder shot, and really, that didn't make a match. Matt turning on his brother was decent.
RATING: 5/10

Royal Rumble
As most have said, it's only real let down was that it was a cluster-f**k and terribly slow. It didn't really have a good pace outside of the start, Kozlov and MVP's brief runs, and the finish.

I don't think it was 'predictable'. When was the last time a heel even won the Rumble? Although I had a hopeful suspicion that Orton would win - I was worried Triple H would go over right until the finish. There was also an outside chance somebody like Jericho or Undertaker would get it under the radar.

I liked: MVP getting in some offence; Morrison being booked like a star; Santino setting a new record for fastest exit; Kozlov and Khali's show-down; the set up of Big Show vs. Undertaker; CM Punk hitting G2S on Triple H; Carlito failing to hit a Back Stabber on Khali; The Legacy being three of the final four; Cody Rhodes besting his brother; Rob Van Dam's return; and Dolph Ziggler's 'handshake' with Kane.

I disliked: Rey Mysterio being in the thing so damn long; The Brian Kendrick getting treated like a jobber; more signs that the WWE doesn't really rate The Miz; wasting Rumble spots on JTG and Duggan; stacking the match with contenders early on.

RATING: 7/10
 
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My thoughts

Swagger (c) vs. Hardy
It was a decent match, but not really anything we needed to see on PPV. I doubt it got any buys for the event. Swagger looks like he has a future with his 'pure wrestling' style.
RATING: 4/10

Phoenix vs. Melina
I need to go back and re-watch this. I went and had a shower while it was on.

Cena vs. JBL
As a match, it wasn't at all remarkable. But HBK's presence and the psychology surrounding that made it my favourite clash of the evening outside of the Rumble. The story told was a good one, although I was personally rooting for a JBL win so HBK could somehow get a title shot and we'd see JBL vs. HBK for the title at Mania. Now it looks like we'll see more of Cena.
RATING: 6.5/10

Edge vs. Jeff Hardy
A bit of a dud, really. I like both workers in recent months, but they just didn't have a great deal of chemistry. The sole decent moment was the ladder shot, and really, that didn't make a match. Matt turning on his brother was decent.
RATING: 5/10

Royal Rumble
As most have said, it's only real let down was that it was a cluster-f**k and terribly slow. It didn't really have a good pace outside of the start, Kozlov and MVP's brief runs, and the finish.

I don't think it was 'predictable'. When was the last time a heel even won the Rumble? Although I had a hopeful suspicion that Orton would win - I was worried Triple H would go over right until the finish. There was also an outside chance somebody like Jericho or Undertaker would get it under the radar.

I liked: MVP getting in some offence; Morrison being booked like a star; Santino setting a new record for fastest exit; Kozlov and Khali's show-down; the set up of Big Show vs. Undertaker; CM Punk hitting G2S on Triple H; Carlito failing to hit a Back Stabber on Khali; The Legacy being three of the final four; Cody Rhodes besting his brother; Rob Van Dam's return; and Dolph Ziggler's 'handshake' with Kane.

I disliked: Rey Mysterio being in the thing so damn long; The Brian Kendrick getting treated like a jobber; more signs that the WWE doesn't really rate The Miz; wasting Rumble spots on JTG and Duggan; stacking the match with contenders early on.

RATING: 7/10

I agree there mis, i am thinking same thing, there was a few non genuine chances, if you were to remove both World title matches from Rumble and have those guys compete, of have IC & US title matches and let those guys back up, it has been done in the past, ww would have had

Matt Hardy, Jack Swagger, Edge, Jeff Hardy, Shawn Michaels, JBL & John Cena in for say Duggan, Cryme Tyme, RVD as just guest, and i am sure 3 others could have been pulled, it would strengthen the rumble
 
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I agree there mis, i am thinking same thing, there was a few non genuine chances, if you were to remove both World title matches from Rumble and have those guys compete, of have IC & US title matches and let those guys back up, it has been done in the past, ww would have had

Matt Hardy, Jack Swagger, Edge, Jeff Hardy, Shawn Michaels, JBL & John Cena in for say Duggan, Cryme Tyme, RVD as just guest, and i am sure 3 others could have been pulled, it would strengthen the rumble

Title Unification is what the need to do to achieve this. You have 1 world champion (lets just say Cena), then have a card like this:
IC Title Match (Both back up)
US Title Match (Both back up)
World Title Match (Loser into rumble match)
Royal Rumble

it's loses credibility when, JBL, HBK, Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy all don't carry major titles and are not in the match.
 
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Thing is, Duggan got a bigger pop than Triple H. Infact, he got the third biggest pop of the Rumble (next to Taker and RVD). It worked.

My biggest gripe was the lack of eliminations until it got too cluttered.
 

Azkatro

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Did anyone else find the end of the JBL/Cena match outrageously predictable?

It was a fairly ordinary PPV in my opinion, by no means the worst I've ever seen but certainly entrenched in the bottom half of Royal Rumble's I've seen. I felt it lacked atmosphere, I mean where was the usual backroom excitement and number selection we've seen in past Rumbles? Some of the more memorable comedic moments have happened here.

Matt Hardy's turn was a good surprise, in one of the replays you could see one guy in the front of the audience completely open-mouthed in shock just after the chair shot :lol:
 

Misanthrope

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Thing is, Duggan got a bigger pop than Triple H. Infact, he got the third biggest pop of the Rumble (next to Taker and RVD). It worked.
He got a pop, sure. But he didn't contribute anything to the match itself. Why not put in Gregory Helms, Ricky Ortiz, DJ Gabriel, or Festus/Jesse?

Matt Hardy's turn was a good surprise, in one of the replays you could see one guy in the front of the audience completely open-mouthed in shock just after the chair shot
Was I the only person on earth who didn't see it coming a mile off? I mean, you knew Hardy was dropping the strap this PPV or next. No way do they go into Mania with two face champions.
 
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*the heel turn of matt was awesome, we could see a feud for the ages here.

*liked the rumble ending and i also like the uncertainty of ortons job going into the event, now what will the mcmahons do now that orton won the rumble?

*i think im just gonna stay clear of storylines involving cena from now on. no way should he have won that match.

*pissed off with santino going early. he is clearly well over.
 

Hanscholo

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Jack Swagger defeated Matt Hardy to retain ECW title

Both wrestlers seemed a little lethargic to me, still an enjoyable match but probably not the kind of PPV quality I expect. There was a genuine lack of understanding and skill between the two workers. Not totally unenjoyable but still not great, and was shown up quite badly by the 'lesser' womens match that followed it. 6/10.

Melina defeats Beth Phoenix to win Divas title

An interesting match, still I wasnt able to avert my mind from thinking when will this end as I always seem to do in womens matchs on PPV. Still, it had its moments and as women's matchs go it was pretty good. Its a shame Santino wasnt used just a little bit more. Beth kicking Melina in the head with her own foot was worth the time taken to watch it. 8/10.

John Cena defeats JBL to retain World Heavyweight title

This match suffered from the overwhelming problem it pre supposed for itself. How does Shawn get involved when JBL isnt the defending champion, offcourse that was always going to mean the referee got knocked out. The second major problem was when will Shawn get involved, the match seemed intent on labouring our thoughts on that and it was to the detriment of the contest. I really wanted to see Cena and JBL go hard at it first, sadly that wasnt to be. I thought it was a really predictable match. JBL was a little disapointing, he is my favourite wrestler, but just didnt work the ring as well as he can tonight. Perhaps that was because of the overly scripted nature of the contest. Cena was as good as he ever is really, un spectacular, two dimensional on the mat. Both cena and JBL just seemed to be working towards the scripted closer without much more tension or effort expelled to take attention away from it. The commentary team went to the point of utter stupidty carrying on about shawn moving ropes etc or getting involved when he clearly didnt, standing there like a zombie for 98% of the match. Shawn's intervention seemed to be the entire point of the match, I know offcourse that it was, but the journey shouldnt always be about the destination. With such talent on offer, so much charisma at play the match really lacked heart, skill and some imagination to me. 5/10.

Edge defeats Jeff Hardy to win WWE title

Easily the best match of the evening, but again suffered from the seemingly ho hum journey toward the end scene. The enjoyment factor was there though, no surprise really with Edge, geurrero x 2 and Jeff/matt hardy all being involved at various points. I thought Jeff tried really hard and was entertaining, Edge was his usual interesting self and the Matt Hardy shock was a great ending to what was a fun match. The only match of the night that i thought was really up to PPV standards. The twists were great, the action entertaining. 8/10.

Randy Orton wins Royal Rumble

A huge let down for me. The match floated from mediocre to boring and in between we had some of the most highly scripted wrestling i have seen in years. I wasnt for one second concerned that any of the wrestlers were leaving the ring until offcourse it was there time to leave and that to me ruined the tension and excitement that is the hallmark of a good rumble match. At no point did I suspect anything other than the Legacy and HHH were going to be left to last. Kendrick and Santino leaving early were both telegraphed to the point of waiting for it to take place. The production was terrible, and for such a scripted contest you would think that the director could at least get a shot of a wrestler being taken out. Several wrestlers were taken out of the ring out of shot, which really capped of a pretty awful production of the main event. Kane's bitch slap on Big Show being one of the really enjoyable moments in the event, Kane in general was great, and showed just how well he works off the cuff. Hacksaw Jim and RVD couldnt save this one im affraid. It really needed a super surpirse at 30 ala last year to turn it around. All in all, way too heavily scripted, predictable, a little boring and poor production left me pretty cold. 5/10.
 
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He got a pop, sure. But he didn't contribute anything to the match itself. Why not put in Gregory Helms, Ricky Ortiz, DJ Gabriel, or Festus/Jesse?

He got people interested in the match, because after RVD, the crowd gre incredibly quiet and didnt react to any of the entrances. Ortiz of Gabriel wouldnt have added squat, because Triple H would have buried them immediately anyway. Helms should have been there instead of a Cryme Time dude.

And there is nothing wrong with predictable endings. All to often bookers try to be all swervy and it fails because it is TOO much ala TNA. WWE, right now, has things right. Even with the Michaels/JBL storyline, which I dont like, it has been developed and carried out well.
 

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