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Your Plan for a National Competition

Dragon Fanatic

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What would your plan involve if you had the next 20 years to create the ultimate Rugby League competition in Australia.
The rules are:
-Unlimited Funds
-You must include what years you would enter and dissolve teams
-How you would market the competetion
-Any ideas for extra competetions.

Try to make it as detailed as possible as it makes it more interesting.
 

Timbo

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Staff member
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OK this is what I think would be good:

1-Sydney Roosters
2-Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
3-Parramatta Eels
4-Cronulla Sharks
5-Many-Warringah Sea Eagles
6-Penrith Panthers
7-Newcastle Knights
8-Canberra Raiders
9-Brisbane Broncos
10-North Queensland Cowboys
11-Melbourne Storm

Following Teams Relocated

12-South Sydney->Adelaide=Southern Rabbitohs
13-Wests Tigers->Perth=Western Tigers
14-St.George-Illawarra->Full time to Wollongong=Illawarra Dragons

Following Teams Created

15-Central Coast Bears
16-South East Queensland-Not necessarially the Dolphins, preferably second Brisbane team.

Following Teams Disbanded

#-NZ Warriors

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Criteria For NRL Teams

-All teams must have their own all-seater stadium with at leas 20,000 capacity
-All teams must have a reserve grade team which will create a national reserve grade competition
-With the Warriors gone all teams must take on a feeder team in the Bartercard Cup, which will be funded and expanded by the NRL

I had a whole heap of stuff floating around in my head but that's all I have for now.
 

Phillips

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1. Auckland Warriors
2. Brisbane Broncos
3. Canberra Raiders
4. Canterbury Bulldogs (last chance =; )
5. Cronulla Sutherland Sharks
6. Gold Coast Dolphins
7. Illawarra Steelers
8. Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
9. Newcastle Knights
10. North Queensland Cowboys
11. North Sydney Bears
12. Parramatta Eels
13. Penrith Panthers
14. South Queensland Crushers
15. South Sydney Rabbitohs
16. St George Dragons
17. Sydney Roosters
18. Wellington Orcas
19. Western Reds
20. Wests Tigers
21. Melbourne Storm
 

Razor

Coach
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North QLD Cowboys
Brisbane Broncos
Brisbane ??? (new side)
Gold Coast Dolphins (new side)
Newcastle Knights
Central Coast Bears (new side)
Manly Eagles
Souths Rabbitohs
Sydney Roosters
Parramatta Eels
Penrith Panthers
Illawarra Dragons
Canberra Raiders
Melbourne Storm
Western Tigers(Perth based - relocated Tigers)
Adelaide Sharks (relocated Sharks)
Auckland Warriors
Wellington Bulldogs (relocated Bulldogs)
 

innsaneink

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For once, just once, I'd like to have my socks knocked off and see someone put forward their own team they follow as one to relocate.
 

Front-Rower

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Wests Tigers to Perth :lol: :lol: Canterbury to Wellington :lol: :lol: Sharks to Adelaide :lol: :lol:, I'm glad you don't run the game. Moving sides like these to those places are sure fire ways for the club to put up the for sale signs. Plus lose thousands upon thousands of supporters to the game.
 

Bomber

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2005 - Gold Coast accepted into NRL for 2007
2006 - Territorial External Draft introduced. Tri Nations held in Australia and New Zealand with games played in Melbourne and Adelaide
2007 - NRL expands to 16 teams with introduction of Gold Coast Dolphins
New TV deal sees NRL broadcast FTA three times every round (Friday Night live, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon)
2008 - Wellington and Central Coast accepted into NRL for 2010. New Zealand wins World Cup after beating Australia in semi-finals.
2009 - State of Origin game played in Melbourne. Great Britain wins the Tri Nations and asks Daniel Anderson if that means they can be called world champions now.
2010 - Wellington and Central Coast join the NRL, now expanded to 18 teams. The length of the season is reduced to 22 rounds. The Top Eight remains.
2011 - In a historical first, the Cowboys, Broncos, Dolphins, Knights, Storm, Warriors and Raiders all qualify for the finals, with poor old South Sydney flying the flag for Sydney.
 

In-goal

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I would keep the comp as is until 2008 were i would add the expansion club to the Gold Coast.

2010 would then see the inception of the 2nd New Zealand team as i think this is more of a priority than the central coast, i would imagine that the club would be based in Wellington.

2012 $10 million offer for a sydney based club to relocate to perth to take over from the recently defunct W.A. Union side.

2015 We still have 17 clubs

2017 A second Brisbane club is included into the competition as the intrest in RL is fevour pitch.

2019 The game would stay at 18 for the forseable future.

criteria
All clubs must play in 24,000 seater minimum stadiums
The Salary cap will be payed buy the League which will be increased to $4 million in 2007 when the TV contract is signed
The season will run over 22 weeks with 4 weeks for finals
Weekends will be put aside for State of Origin
Rugby Union juniors will be excempt from the salary cap until the age of 21
All clubs are to have a minimum of 10,000 season ticket holders
All current rules of the game remain the same.
 

nqboy

First Grade
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2005 - As is, no Tri-series. Acceptance of GC Dolphins (? - still don't like the name) for 2007. Wests Tigers and Sharks announce their intention to move to Perth and Adelaide respectively over a 4 year period, 2 home games there in 2006, 4 in 2007, 6 in 2008 and 9 in 2009, retaining 2 games in their traditional area. Origins in Brissie, Sydney and Melbourne (Telstra Dome). Allocation of zonal junior areas.

2006 - Resumption of the Country Challenge Cup, with the pre-season trials played exclusively in country areas, Perth, Adelaide and Wellington. Straight Knockout with the premiers receiving a bye in the first round. Tri-series in England with Aust v NZ home and away before touring. Acceptance of Southern Orcas and CC Bears for 2008.

2007 - The TV deal to require NATIONAL coverage of 3 FTA games per week (in a 16 team comp in 2008) at 8.30pm Friday, Saturday afternoon and 4.00pm Sunday, even down to regional operators (e.g. WIN) having prices set for the life of the deal. Origins and Internationals to be negotiated in seperate deals. GC Dolphins debut in NRL.

2008 - Orcas and Bears join the NRL in an 18 team comp. Three pools of six teams, pools play home and away within their pool (10 rounds) and the other pools home or away (12 rounds). 22 rounds, Top 8, 4 weeks of finals and World Cup to be played in Aust and NZ after the GF.

Don't know when the radio deal is up but it should be thrown open. Anyone who wants to broadcast games can.

Easy :D
 

God-King Dean

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If I was going for a truly national comp it would look like this

1.Perth Reds
2.Adelaide Rams
3.Melbourne Storm
4.Wellington
5.Auckland Warriors
6.Sth QLD Crushers
7.Nth QLD Cowboys
8.Brisbane Broncos
9.Hunter Mariners
10.St.George Dragons
11.Illawarra Steelers
12.Balmain Tigers
13.Western Suburbs Magpies
14.Manly Sea Eagles
15.North Sydney Bears
16.Eastern Suburbs Roosters
17.South Sydney Rabbitohs
18.Canterbury Bulldogs
19.Canberra Raiders
20.Quenbeyan
21.Central Coast
22.Gold Coast Dolphins
23.Cronulla Sharks
24.Penrith Panthers
25.Newcastle Knights
26.Parra Eels
27.Iceland Beach Volley ball players

...... & many more I could have added. Throw in another QLD team in an unused area
 

Dragon Fanatic

Juniors
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TimeLine
2007-Introduction of the Gold Coast Dolphins
2008-Massive World Cup and game is back to where it was pre super league thanks to RLWC and Centenary celebrations.
2010-Introduction of the Central Coast Sharks relocated from Cronulla because of St George and Illawarra's strangelhold on its small boundaries.
2015-With 17 teams now an Adelaide team takes part in a now 18 team competition.
2020-After 5 years of absolute Rugby League domination in Australia the Sydney Swans and Brisbane lions are now defunct and the Super 12 competetion is a distant memory.
2021- We get a national reserve grade competition and a National Jersey Flegg competition.
2025-Make plans for a second tier comp made up of suburban clubs such as Wentworthville, West Mitchellton etc.. All playing for a prize and a chance at promotion into the top Rugby League competetion in the world.
2030- Australia now with a population of in excess of 30 million has Rugby League as it's major sport.
2040-Asia Pacific teams brought in to the Second tier comp to play for the chance of competing in the NRL.
2042-The first Papua New Guinean side Port Moresby is promoted into the NRL and the competiton now renamed The Australasian Rugby League.
2045-Melbourne now has two teams in the ARL with the promotion of the Collingwood RLFC to the top competition.
2050- The English Super League is now the European Super League with teams competing from France, Russia, Ireland, Wales, Germany and Austria.
2055-Rugby League now the second most played sport in the world behind Soccer.
2060-Lebanon win the World cup which was suspected as the Mediteranian League is now the second strongest in the world. They run a close second to Russia.
2065-the ARL takes over the struggling ARU and encompasses all funds and Juniorsa they previously had.
2070-Rugby Union is now extinct in the world.
2075- Rugby League hold the biggest world cup yet in the USA with over 8 billion people attending. Australia win just over the host nation.
2080- The ARL competetion looks like so-

Australasian Rugby League
Tier 1

1.South Sydney Rabbitohs
2.Port Moresby Chiefs
3.Tokyo Crusaders
4.St George Illawarra Dragons
5.Melbourne City Storm
6.Collingwood Magpies
7.Fremantle Wildcats
8.Auckland Warriors
9.Sydney Roosters
10.Central Coast Sharks
11.Gold Coast Dolphins
12.Brisbane Broncos
13.Hobart Devils
14.Wests Tigers
15.Canberra Brumbies
16.Belconnen Reds
17.Darwin Dingos
18.Penrith Panthers

Second Tier Comp
1.Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2.Parramatta Eels
3.Coober Pedy Stockmen
4.Adelaide City Rams
5.Noosa Demons
6.Essendon Bombers
7.Dunnedin Spears
8.Invacargill Fire
9.Newcastle Knights
10.Newtown Jets
11.Madang Lions
12.Rockhampton Flare
13.North Queensland Cowboys
14.Bay of Plenty Brothers
15.Canterbury Bansktown Bulldogs
16.Alice Springs Cane Toads
17.Jakarta Suns
18.Bankok Sparrows
19.Sutherland Possums
20.Beijing Vipers

And then the third teir consists of weaker teams from all over Asia and Australia.
 

Raider_69

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DF, you had me untill this peice of idiocy:

Dragon Fanatic said:
15.Canberra Brumbies

Not if i have anything to do with it!!!! :evil: :evil:

BTW nqboy, great call :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

CULLUS.ONLINE

Juniors
Messages
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Dragon Fanatic said:
TimeLine
2007-Introduction of the Gold Coast Dolphins
2008-Massive World Cup and game is back to where it was pre super league thanks to RLWC and Centenary celebrations.
2010-Introduction of the Central Coast Sharks relocated from Cronulla because of St George and Illawarra's strangelhold on its small boundaries.
2015-With 17 teams now an Adelaide team takes part in a now 18 team competition.
2020-After 5 years of absolute Rugby League domination in Australia the Sydney Swans and Brisbane lions are now defunct and the Super 12 competetion is a distant memory.
2021- We get a national reserve grade competition and a National Jersey Flegg competition.
2025-Make plans for a second tier comp made up of suburban clubs such as Wentworthville, West Mitchellton etc.. All playing for a prize and a chance at promotion into the top Rugby League competetion in the world.
2030- Australia now with a population of in excess of 30 million has Rugby League as it's major sport.
2040-Asia Pacific teams brought in to the Second tier comp to play for the chance of competing in the NRL.
2042-The first Papua New Guinean side Port Moresby is promoted into the NRL and the competiton now renamed The Australasian Rugby League.
2045-Melbourne now has two teams in the ARL with the promotion of the Collingwood RLFC to the top competition.
2050- The English Super League is now the European Super League with teams competing from France, Russia, Ireland, Wales, Germany and Austria.
2055-Rugby League now the second most played sport in the world behind Soccer.
2060-Lebanon win the World cup which was suspected as the Mediteranian League is now the second strongest in the world. They run a close second to Russia.
2065-the ARL takes over the struggling ARU and encompasses all funds and Juniorsa they previously had.
2070-Rugby Union is now extinct in the world.
2075- Rugby League hold the biggest world cup yet in the USA with over 8 billion people attending. Australia win just over the host nation.
2080- The ARL competetion looks like so-

Australasian Rugby League
Tier 1

1.South Sydney Rabbitohs
2.Port Moresby Chiefs
3.Tokyo Crusaders
4.St George Illawarra Dragons
5.Melbourne City Storm
6.Collingwood Magpies
7.Fremantle Wildcats
8.Auckland Warriors
9.Sydney Roosters
10.Central Coast Sharks
11.Gold Coast Dolphins
12.Brisbane Broncos
13.Hobart Devils
14.Wests Tigers
15.Canberra Brumbies
16.Belconnen Reds
17.Darwin Dingos
18.Penrith Panthers

Second Tier Comp
1.Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2.Parramatta Eels
3.Coober Pedy Stockmen
4.Adelaide City Rams
5.Noosa Demons
6.Essendon Bombers
7.Dunnedin Spears
8.Invacargill Fire
9.Newcastle Knights
10.Newtown Jets
11.Madang Lions
12.Rockhampton Flare
13.North Queensland Cowboys
14.Bay of Plenty Brothers
15.Canterbury Bansktown Bulldogs
16.Alice Springs Cane Toads
17.Jakarta Suns
18.Bankok Sparrows
19.Sutherland Possums
20.Beijing Vipers

And then the third teir consists of weaker teams from all over Asia and Australia.

Dude that is a top post! although i dont agree with some parts, i think it was generally great!
 

Sir Clifford GC

Juniors
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i think the comp should settle with 18 teams when its cost effective and the game is paying its way.

The 16 team needs to come in sooner than later 2006 sounds great. Then a 17 and 18 in about 5 years time.

The only option for a 17th and 18th side should be Perth and Adelade to make it a truly national comp.

Places like Brisbane getting a second side or Central Coast should only happen if a sydney club falls by the wayside or relocates. I saw someone post a 10 million dollar incentive to relocate, not a bad idea but in the terms of NRL 10 million is jackshit its bearly enought to run a club 1 year. If they want a club to relocate they need to offer the big bikkie 40 - 50 million to move to areas the NRL approves.
 

Special K

Coach
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Don't move any sydney teams. Sydney is the biggest and best market and RL owns it. Don't damage it by moving teams... You will only lose market share. Expand yes but do it over time and don't rush it. Bring in GC, CC and Wellington(in that order) over the next say 7 - 10 years then look at SA and WA. Each area should be given a new side that they can call their own, not some sydney team. Teams can't be just thrown into these areas.

The long term goal needs to be a 20 team comp by a certain date. I have no idea what that date is but it wouldn't be within the next 15 years imo.
 

Sir Clifford GC

Juniors
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Special K said:
Don't move any sydney teams. Sydney is the biggest and best market and RL owns it. Don't damage it by moving teams... You will only lose market share. Expand yes but do it over time and don't rush it. Bring in GC, CC and Wellington(in that order) over the next say 7 - 10 years then look at SA and WA. Each area should be given a new side that they can call their own, not some sydney team. Teams can't be just thrown into these areas.

The long term goal needs to be a 20 team comp by a certain date. I have no idea what that date is but it wouldn't be within the next 15 years imo.
imo Perth and Adelaide are more important than wellington lets get australia covered first then worry about NZ
 

PARRA_FAN

Coach
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Rugby League in the future

NRL competition: (18 teams)

Brisbane Broncos
Canberra Raiders
Canterbury Bulldogs
Central Coast Bears (or some other name)
Cronulla Sharks
Gold Coast
Manly Sea Eagles
Melbourne Storm
Newcastle Knights
New Zealand Warriors
North Queensland Cowboys
Parramatta Eels
Penrith Panthers
St. George Illawarra
South Sydney
Sydney Roosters
Wests Tigers

Premier League: (Jersey Flegg would have St.George Illawarra and Wests Tigers split) PL (12 teams), JF (14)

Canberra
Canterbury
Cronulla
Manly
North Sydney
Newcastle
Parramatta
Penrith
St.George-Illawarra
South Sydney
Sydney Roosters
Wests Tigers


Create a small second division comp, like the Northern Ford Premiership.

Second Division teams included: (Feb-May)
Newtown Jets
Western Suburbs
Balmain Tigers
Umina Bunnies
St. Marys- Penrith Cougars
Towoomba Clydesdales
Illawarra Steelers
Burleigh Bears
North Coast NSW
Wellington Wolves
North Qld Young Guns
Redcliffe Dolphins

A super 8 competition: (Mar-Jul)

Perth Reds
Adelaide Rams
Port Moresby
Victoria
Canterbury (NZL)
NSW Country
Central Queensland
Northern Territory

-NRL coverage: Fox Sports, Ch 9 which includes live fri night matches (except for local viewers), live sunday matches
-PL, JF coverage as it is now, just Grand Final matches.
-Second divsion matches: some matches will be played curtain raisers to NRL games and some will be double headers
-Super 8 competition, Fox sports coverage (one game a week), Final would be played at either Suncorp, SFS or Newcastle

And for the people in the Bush.

State Challenge: (winner of every competition, 10 teams)

-Newcastle and the Hunter
-Central Coast
-South Coast
-Western Division
-North Coast
-winner of Jim Beam Cup
-Riverina
-Northern Division
-Northern Rivers
-ACT
 

Dragon Fanatic

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Raider_69 said:
DF, you had me untill this peice of idiocy:

Dragon Fanatic said:
15.Canberra Brumbies

Not if i have anything to do with it!!!! :evil: :evil:

BTW nqboy, great call :lol: :lol: :lol:

As RU struggles the Raiders will take over their fledging RU brother and the Brumbies tag will be a token for the great Canberra club.
 
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