2019 coach

[jane the pain]

He still did though. In 2014 we saw the debut of
DWZ, Cartwright, Yeo, Moseley and will Smith.

Aswell as club debuts for Soward, Taylor, kev Naiqama, BMM and Kite.

2015 through injury we saw the likes of Blake, Gennings, Rennings, Latu, Katoa and Chris Smith. As well as club debuts for Sopoaga and Korisau.

Of the 11 players to debut in those 2 years. 9 have played NRL this year and are mostly regulars.

What ever happened to Moseley?

 

[betcats]

What ever happened to Moseley?

Went to the titans cause we had Segeyaro and the manly hooker whose name I am blanking right now.

Moseley did his acl the first year there and got injured again after that and fell away. He was talented though.

 

[jane the pain]

Went to the titans cause we had Segeyaro and the manly hooker whose name I am blanking right now.

Moseley did his acl the first year there and got injured again after that and fell away. He was talented though.

That's a shame, he was great. Thanks.

 

[mxlegend99]

What ever happened to Moseley?

Another career ruined by Titans I think.

 

[mxlegend99]

You'd say Hook took more risks on younger players. Ivan himself said he wouldn't have picked Nathan Cleary in 2016.

But it's pretty clear that both coaches had different circumstances. We were a total mess when Ivan arrived and our success in 2014 was mainly off the back of imports.

If he stayed on for 2016 who knows what would have happened.

Ofcourse he wouldn't. He couldnt pick his oen kid at 18 without looking biased.

 

[jane the pain]

Ofcourse he wouldn't. He couldnt pick his oen kid at 18 without looking biased.

And leaving Nathan open to some undue, additional, pressure.

 

[MrBlack]

Gus re-signed Whare for what we perceive is a modest contract. Wasn't a popular signing at the time and most were calling for him to be moved on.

With that wonderful hindsight we can see that was a great call. He is at career best form with a few more good years to come.

 

[Bob]

What ever happened to Moseley?

Went to the Titans, was let go, spent a few years playing for the Townsville Blackhawks and now plays for the Ipswich Jets

 

[mxlegend99]

Gus re-signed Whare for what we perceive is a modest contract. Wasn't a popular signing at the time and most were calling for him to be moved on.

With that wonderful hindsight we can see that was a great call. He is at career best form with a few more good years to come.

He's nowhere near career best form.

He's playing solid lately. But he was the best centre in the game in 2014.

 

[MrBlack]

He's nowhere near career best form.

He's playing solid lately. But he was the best centre in the game in 2014.

Maybe not "career best" but definitely one of our form players this year. He is showing more in attack than he has in years.

 

[franklin2323]

Watching the Broncs CEO presser now. mich better handling of the coaching situation then we did. Shows how far behind some clubs we still are

 

[franklin2323]

Isaah Yeo debuted at 18 in round 1 2014, in the centres. There were more experienced options available. It’s a myth.

He debuted round 1 due to injury. Later that year Lewis Brown took his place enough said.

The issue I had with Ivan he had tunnel vision when it comes to players outside the top 17. They love him and play well for him. The issue is the lack of a plan B, C etc when injuries and form slumps come on.

I guess we see if that changes next time around

 

[umina panther]

He debuted round 1 due to injury. Later that year Lewis Brown took his place enough said.

The issue I had with Ivan he had tunnel vision when it comes to players outside the top 17. They love him and play well for him. The issue is the lack of a plan B, C etc when injuries and form slumps come on.

I guess we see if that changes next time around

At least he has a plan A

 

[franklin2323]

At least he has a plan A

that is the one good thing about wanting him back

 

[Todd Hoffman]

Watching the Broncs CEO presser now. mich better handling of the coaching situation then we did. Shows how far behind some clubs we still are

You could be worse Manly is even further behind. Worse run club in the NRL at the moment

 

[franklin2323]

You could be worse Manly is even further behind. Worse run club in the NRL at the moment

Parra are still worse but yeah we have some way to come still. Personally I think we should of groomed someone like Tim Browne or Wallace to be in Fletcher's role. To get some sort of succession plan

 

[martielang]

Outside of Blake, who didnt play just aswell under Ivan? Everyone under Ivan had good development. Including Blake. Players consistently improved under him.

Moylan 2014 was as good as ever
DWZ 2014 was a beast
Carty 2014 looked insane
Mansour was better under Ivan before doing an ACL
RCG had a terrific debut season

Outside of those guys Ivan got the last good footy we saw from Jamie Soward, Jsmes Segeyaro, Jamal Idris etc. Dean Whare was the best centre in the game under Ivan.

It's a myth that Ivan never gave players a chance. It's bullshit that the players werent for the most part good when he did.

Gus brought in journeymen to cut down on unnecessary debuts while the club was being rebuilt to assist in our younger players development and not have guys trying to develop in a losing NRL side like Knights have done. Those guys were top 25 players and our team had to be selected with that and the second tier salary cap in mind.

Mate stop being a bitter ex. You go what you wanted, Hook was punted. Give the bloke credit for the good things he did for this club & move on with life.

 

[OldPanther]

Mate stop being a bitter ex. You go what you wanted, Hook was punted. Give the bloke credit for the good things he did for this club & move on with life.

I think it's also hard to compare as the club was in different stages of development.

 

[martielang]

I think it's also hard to compare as the club was in different stages of development.

But he was involved in that development yeh?

I'm not saying the bloke was a mastercoach but look at our squad now. Full of juniors who have been blooded into first grade & are locked up long term going into the prime of their careers. This is what we all wanted when he arrived here.

 

[OldPanther]

But he was involved in that development yeh?

I'm not saying the bloke was a mastercoach but look at our squad now. Full of juniors who have been blooded into first grade & are locked up long term going into the prime of their careers. This is what we all wanted when he arrived here.

It wasn't an argument against either. I was actually supporting you with that statement.