There is already a thread on Penrith flopping, I think the time has come to make one on the Raiders. At the start of the year the so called experts had the Raiders as one of the teams to beat and a lock for the top 4. Their team is packed with stars, apart from their halves. Yet they have disappointed their fans this year and now look like missing the 8. They haven't had a massive injury toll like the Titans or lost key players like the Cowboys have. Last year they only lost 6 games total. This year just a tick over the halfway point they have dropped 8 with more likely to come. They are struggling to close out games and couldn't even beat the Bronco's at home, who were without 2 of their best players and had a few backing up from an absorbing origin clash. Yet the Raiders couldn't win. They may well make a late charge for the top 8 but its a far cry from a guaranteed top 4 spot at the start of the year, that many had hoped for. These are hard questions that need to asked. Are the Raiders this year flops?