Forwards Stats

[Philip_Smith007]

So our weak points is our Forwards, Props in particular, I put together stats from the Warriors website.

Don't seem to be able to successfully put up an excel spread sheet here.
But our top 4 based on BMI (to get an idea of size across different heights)

1st Agnatius Paasi Lock
2nd Patrick Sipley Prop
3rd Chris Satae Prop
4th Ligi Sao Lock

On games played, we have a total of 6 with over 50 games, 4 of those over 100 games.

Not sure what club is as low as us on size and experience?

 

[Campion]

How is BMI calculated (do you have their height and weight stats available? tho presumably the latter won't be so accurate)? Also, random aside, nrl.com no longer seems to show the tackle count and running metres of individual players. Is that just me or are you all suffering the same lack of stats?

 

[playdaball]

Why is it that fans and the media have identified prop as our weakness this year and yet the club has not addressed this? They signed Paasi and re-signed Lisone. To be honest, those two players won’t set the platform allowing players such as SJ, RTS to work their magic.

 

[WellsNZ]

Why is it that fans and the media have identified prop as our weakness this year and yet the club has not addressed this? They signed Paasi and re-signed Lisone. To be honest, those two players won’t set the platform allowing players such as SJ, RTS to work their magic.

It's been a problem for years, the media is just shit and it's easier to write stories blaming SJ.

The Brocess did address it, he got the Kiwi leader lol

In seriousness though it's a hard thing to address , big good forwards are a huge premium and the Warriors struggle enough luring guys who aren't Kiwis wanting a pay day.

Letting promising guys like Sipley escape only makes it worse.

 

[Rich102]

Phil.
Where do Gavet and Vete rate on BMI?

 

[Philip_Smith007]

How is BMI calculated (do you have their height and weight stats available? tho presumably the latter won't be so accurate)? Also, random aside, nrl.com no longer seems to show the tackle count and running metres of individual players. Is that just me or are you all suffering the same lack of stats?

BMI (Body Mass Index) is calculated by weight (kg) divided by height (m) squared.

So Passi is 111kg and 1.82m
111/(1.82*1.82) = 33.51

Its an arbitrary method to judge how healthy your weight is.
It doesn't apply to body builders who have a larger muscle mass, pregnancy, athletes.
So i wasn't using it to say how fit or healthy they where, just to get an idea of their mass per height

Ranges for BMI's
Underweight: BMI is less than 18.5.
Normal weight: BMI is 18.5 to 24.9.
Overweight: BMI is 25 to 29.9.
Obese: BMI is 30 or more.

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Phil.
Where do Gavet and Vete rate on BMI?

Ill paste the rankings below, BMI's showing after names

1 Agnatius Paasi 33.51045
2 Patrick Sipley 32.13296
3 Chris Satae 31.24914
4 Ligi Sao 31.17047
5 Albert Vete 31.12268
6 Isaiah Papali'i 31.09528
7 Adam Blair 30.83975
8 Sam Lisone 30.71834
9 Matiu Love-Henry 30.67933
10 James Gavet 30.23432
11 Leivaha Pulu 30.11068
12 King Vuniyawa 29.99095
13 Joseph Vuna 29.88769
14 Issac Luke 29.71429
15 Jazz Tevaga 29.03674
16 James Bell 29.01235
17 Tohu Harris 28.92834
18 Bunty Afoa 28.57628
19 Simon Mannering 28.48307
20 Sam Cook 28.39506
21 Nathaniel Roache 27.77778
22 Manaia Cherrington 27.13141

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Here is the list of appearances.

1 Simon Mannering 280
2 Adam Blair 266
3 Issac Luke 231
4 Tohu Harris 117
5 Sam Lisone 63
6 Agnatius Paasi 55
7 Leivaha Pulu 45
8 Albert Vete 44
9 James Gavet 37
10 Ligi Sao 34
11 Bunty Afoa 21
12 Nathaniel Roache 20
13 Manaia Cherrington 16
14 Jazz Tevaga 15
15 Isaiah Papali'i 5
16 Chris Satae 3
17 James Bell 2
18 Joseph Vuna 0
19 King Vuniyawa 0
20 Matiu Love-Henry 0
21 Patrick Sipley 0
22 Sam Cook 0

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Ok, so I thought I would whip up our first opponents stats from their website
BMIs

1 Tevita Tatola 34.04103
2 George Burgess 31.88437
3 Vincent Leuluai 31.79012
4 Siosifa Talakai 31.56167
5 Thomas Burgess 31.23698
6 Jason Clark 30.75637
7 Sam Burgess 30.19575
8 Zane Musgrove 29.83941
9 Angus Crichton 29.16869
10 John Sutton 29.08587
11 Kyle Turner 28.53186
12 Robbie Farah 28.40111
13 Tyrell Fuimaono 27.72748
14 Mark Nicholls 27.63312
15 Damien Cook 27.16049
16 Cameron Murray 26.58318
17 Dean Britt 26.30943
18 Sam Johnstone NA

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Appearances:
1 John Sutton 282
2 Robbie Farah 271
3 Jason Clark 148
4 Sam Burgess 140
5 George Burgess 109
6 Thomas Burgess 92
7 Kyle Turner 74
8 Damien Cook 49
9 Angus Crichton 30
10 Mark Nicholls 28
11 Zane Musgrove 27
12 Tyrell Fuimaono 15
13 Siosifa Talakai 11
14 Cameron Murray 9
15 Vincent Leuluai 4
16 Dean Britt 2
17 Sam Johnstone 0
18 Tevita Tatola 0

 

[Philip_Smith007]

Based in BMI we dont look to bad, 11 vs 7 over BMI 30
But 2 vs 4 for over 114kg

 

[JJ]

Regardless of size talent and performance are key. We lost Ben, Jake and Sipley. The former two were established and took criticism and the latter promising, we replaced them with lower quality journeymen