Melbourne Cup

[hineyrulz]

Spot on Horrie, it's sad but it's also a part of racing. The Aga khan is one of the biggest horse breeders in the world they would have saved her if they could. The cost of saving her would be chump change for him.

 

[lockyno1]

What an absolute dud of a day, did have a saver on Fiorente but jeez talk about doing the wallet hard- broke even thanks to the last 2 races though

 

[Danish]

Lol..

Did you even read my post..:?

Actually you should learn about Laminitis..

It's obvious your knowledge of horses is limited, but read this..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminitis

Also watch the video on Barbaro i posted earlier..

The pain the poor horse would have to endure for your utopian view of "saving it" is akin to animal abuse..

You haven't thought this one through..

Once again, the vets had no choice but to euthanize the mare..

They put the horse down ON THE TRACK before the bloody presentations were even done. Do you honestly think that is enough time for them to diagnose how bad the break was and its chances of surviving?

Barbaro went through months of treatment and surgeries before they finally decided it had to be put down. That is the sign of an owner who above all just wanted their horse to live. Verema on the other hand was snuffed inside of about 20 minutes of its injury. If you think they actually did any further diagnosis than a cost/benefit analysis before killing it you are kidding yourself.

You can go on about complications that might have developed all you like, but not all horses with breaks get laminitis, and not all horses that get laminitis need to be put down. Its a long bow to draw to just outright assume that the only humane action for a broken down horse is to kill it immediately.

 

[ek999]

Getting the horse back in condition to live comfortably is a far cry from getting it back into good enough health to win more money for its owners. A broken leg is not a death sentence for any animal. It is only a death sentence for investments that can no longer make any returns.

It was never going to win more money in racing but after having Group 2 and 3 wins overseas it could have made the owners some substantial money as a broodmare if they could get it comfortable, it wouldn't take vets long to determine which part of the leg is broken and whether it would be saved.

And yes, a broken leg for a horse can be a death sentence for a horse.

 

[hineyrulz]

It was never going to win more money in racing but after having Group 2 and 3 wins overseas it could have made the owners some substantial money as a broodmare if they could get it comfortable, it wouldn't take vets long to determine which part of the leg is broken and whether it would be saved.

And yes, a broken leg for a horse can be a death sentence for a horse.

Now way mate, the Aga Khan is on struggle street and wouldn't be willing to spend 20k on the horse even though she could make him millions in the breeding barn :lol:

 

[Horrie Is God]

They put the horse down ON THE TRACK before the bloody presentations were even done. Do you honestly think that is enough time for them to diagnose how bad the break was and its chances of surviving?

Barbaro went through months of treatment and surgeries before they finally decided it had to be put down. That is the sign of an owner who above all just wanted their horse to live. Verema on the other hand was snuffed inside of about 20 minutes of its injury. If you think they actually did any further diagnosis than a cost/benefit analysis before killing it you are kidding yourself.

You can go on about complications that might have developed all you like, but not all horses with breaks get laminitis, and not all horses that get laminitis need to be put down. Its a long bow to draw to just outright assume that the only humane action for a broken down horse is to kill it immediately.

Okay..

What i've determined from your posts is that you think you know more about the welfare of the thoroughbred than some of the best vets in the world..

Seems legit..

The mare snapped her cannon bone..Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of equine anotomy knows that the vets did all they could..

And once again, the vets had no choice but to euthanize the mare..

 

[hineyrulz]

Okay..

What i've determined from your posts is that you think you know more about the welfare of the thoroughbred than some of the best vets in the world..

Seems legit..

The mare snapped her cannon bone..Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of equine anotomy knows that the vets did all they could..

And once again, the vets had no choice but to euthanize the mare..

He seems to think the owners only care about the money side of things. 99.9% of people in the racing industry are horse lovers and would do what was best for the horse. Especially someone like the Aga Khan who is arguably the greatest horse breeder in the world.

 

[ek999]

http://www.news.com.au/opinion/why-...cup-horse-verema/story-fnh4jt54-1226753979064

 

[Horrie Is God]

http://www.news.com.au/opinion/why-...cup-horse-verema/story-fnh4jt54-1226753979064

/thread..

 

[Someone]

They put the horse down ON THE TRACK before the bloody presentations were even done. Do you honestly think that is enough time for them to diagnose how bad the break was and its chances of surviving?

Barbaro went through months of treatment and surgeries before they finally decided it had to be put down. That is the sign of an owner who above all just wanted their horse to live. Verema on the other hand was snuffed inside of about 20 minutes of its injury. If you think they actually did any further diagnosis than a cost/benefit analysis before killing it you are kidding yourself.

You can go on about complications that might have developed all you like, but not all horses with breaks get laminitis, and not all horses that get laminitis need to be put down. Its a long bow to draw to just outright assume that the only humane action for a broken down horse is to kill it immediately.

ffs complain to rspca or someone who cares.

 

[Haffa]

ffs complain to rspca or someone who cares.

I'm pretty sure he'd get the same response. RSPCA would back the Vet.

 

[El Diablo]

They put the horse down ON THE TRACK before the bloody presentations were even done. Do you honestly think that is enough time for them to diagnose how bad the break was and its chances of surviving?

Barbaro went through months of treatment and surgeries before they finally decided it had to be put down. That is the sign of an owner who above all just wanted their horse to live. Verema on the other hand was snuffed inside of about 20 minutes of its injury. If you think they actually did any further diagnosis than a cost/benefit analysis before killing it you are kidding yourself.

You can go on about complications that might have developed all you like, but not all horses with breaks get laminitis, and not all horses that get laminitis need to be put down. Its a long bow to draw to just outright assume that the only humane action for a broken down horse is to kill it immediately.

 

[Someone]

I'm pretty sure he'd get the same response. RSPCA would back the Vet.

i know,i cant stand people who ignore science and humanity because 'the poor horse didn't have to die'. Join us in the real world.

 

[ek999]

And another article again explaining why it was the right decision

http://www.news.com.au/national/melbourne-cup-runner-verema-euthanised/story-fncynjr2-1226753635918

 

[Danish]

All those articles seem to be going way overboard on their siding with the decision. The 2nd news article filled with out and out lies about treating breaks, claiming that plates and screws are not an option despite these methods clearly being used in horses regularly.

This particular example may be the catastrophic break that genuinely can't be fixed, but plenty of cheaper horses get put down for far less

 

[El Diablo]

All those articles seem to be going way overboard on their siding with the decision. The 2nd news article filled with out and out lies about treating breaks, claiming that plates and screws are not an option despite these methods clearly being used in horses regularly.

This particular example may be the catastrophic break that genuinely can't be fixed, but plenty of cheaper horses get put down for far less

 

[Moffo]

El posting pictures again because he can't use words

 

[hineyrulz]

All those articles seem to be going way overboard on their siding with the decision. The 2nd news article filled with out and out lies about treating breaks, claiming that plates and screws are not an option despite these methods clearly being used in horses regularly.

This particular example may be the catastrophic break that genuinely can't be fixed, but plenty of cheaper horses get put down for far less

:lol: Yeah siding with the professionals. Can't believe you are still going on about this. You seem to be all about the health of the horse but seem happy to put it through months of agony in the small hope that somehow they live through it. Is that really best for the horse????

 

[Horrie Is God]

At the risk of using a pun, he is "flogging a dead horse"..

 

[hineyrulz]

At the risk of using a pun, he is "flogging a dead horse"..

:lol: