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souths best 17 (questionable)SAYS SHADOW...

foreverinourshadow

First Grade
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THE BEST 17 FROM SKY SPORTS WITH SHADOW"S INSIGHT FOR 2017...

1. Greg Inglis (A Souths Great And Will Be An Immortal)

2. Alex Johnston ( only plays well behind a stacked souths 2014 side)id take blake ferguson at the drop of a hat over johnston,the difference is blake ferguson can play against adversity and achieve highly johnston cant.

3. Bryson Goodwin (past his best time to move on)

4. Hymel Hunt (i dont rate him)i know its early days but i still dont rate him.

5. Aaron Gray ( gray is a nsw cup player)I truly wish that aaron had gone to manly and not dylan walker,but manly aint that stupid and knew who they wanted and it wasn"'t gray blind freddy knows that.

6. Cody Walker (cody should had possibly played for Australia long ago but sadly went off the rails at an early age he could had been something very special he only has himself to blame sadly.

7. Adam Reynolds (made of paper) i cant see value for money in the future with adam i cringe when ever he gets tackled id love to be proven wrong though.

8. George Burgess (great player but injuries has not been kind to george of late lets hope george over comes his injuries ASAP)

9. Robbie Farah (robbie has a point to prove after all he is not the nsw blues no9 for nothing)robbie brings a load of experience to our young crew)

10. Robbie Rochow ( desperate signing by souths and he is injury proned but is definitely a step up from clark and tyrrell even when injured.

11. John Sutton ( i believe john has one more year of service left to give souths but if he is smart he should retire at years end)

12. Kyle Turner ( i dont rate him he is a nsw cup player at best and should had retired with that very serious neck injury incident awhile back it is absolutely foolish to play on under these circumstances it beggars belief)

13. Sam Burgess( an absolute champion and close to the best forward that has donned a souths jumper ever in my view.

14. Jason Clark (dont get me started jason cant bend the line and adds nothing jason is a glorified nsw cup player at best jason clark and dave tyrrell would not get on a storm or a broncos or a cowboys bench if logical thinking was in place why are these two nsw cup players in our 1st grade team?it beggars disbelief.Put the broom thru these two ASAP.

15. Tom Burgess (tom was supposedly the better of the twins i dont believe tom has hit his straps yet i am looking forward to tom excelling in 2017 i believe he can.

16. Angus Crichton ( angus will only get better and is a tremendous talent of the future i believe possibly at any level of the game lets wait and see how angus transpires.

17. Zane Musgrove ( zane is young and green and is a big young unit with good hands for a big fella can only get better but how much better remains to be seen.

OTHERS: Damien Cook future souths no9, Tyrell Fuimaono future souths 1st grade player for the future if he can stay disciplined, Connor Tracey is a great talent and will push for a top grade spot in the near future undoubtedly ,Luke Kelly is a dud hey luke go to newcastle with sandow and fight it out there for the no7 spot, Anthony Cherrington will add a bit of starch and grunt up front but he is past his best but i must emphasize that i emphatically prefer cherro over clark and tyrrell, Robert Jennings has pace and size and youth on his side your guess is as good as mine if he can surpass his older brother michael that will remain to be seen as some think he may, Brett Greinke has a few good wraps out of brisbane but nothing flash to report on he is still unproven in my view, Braidon Burns would be knocking at the door on all (16)1st grade clubs he is a gun in the making unquestionably, Jack Gosiewski although presently injured at present is a solid forward personally i dont rate him that highly like some do, Dane Nielsen is a dud he has 1yr remaining in his contract bye bye dane, David Tyrrell its time to throw on a souths cares t-shirt old mate and do some community work at years end enough said.

SHADOW...
 

themacemaceman

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As I posted previously from a fantasy stat site.

Clark might not offer much in attack but certainly makes up for that in his defensive stats.

"
Clark is the Rabbitohs’ interchange specialist with 53 of his 59 appearances in the last three years coming from the bench, including all 23 appearances last season. He’s a very hard working defender who made the 8th highest tackles per minute (for players with 100 tackles) last season and had the 14th best missed tackle rate. Even though he doesn’t do much else players like that always have a place in the NRL. Here’s the top 10 for tackles per minute:

Player

Tackles

Tackles per min

Siliva Havili

152

0.77

Eloni Vunakece

136

0.75

Mitchell Frei

129

0.74

David Bhana

191

0.73

Ben Hannant

526

0.71

Jake Friend

1279

0.70

Shaun Fensom

504

0.70

Jason Clark

603

0.70

Daniel Alvaro

445

0.69

Mickey Paea

302

- See more at: http://renegadesfs.com/index.php/nr...0-south-sydney-rabbitohs#sthash.atQHzVG1.dpuf
 

foreverinourshadow

First Grade
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9,400
i appreciate the input (TMMM) but with a team full of (use by date players and dud players and nsw cup players) such as this below we are not going to be playing in a grand final until we put the broom thru the (dud 16)below- (goodwin,nielsen,clark,tyrrell,gray,hunt,rochow,cherrington,rochow,turner,dietz,gosiewski,greinke,kelly,rudolf,talaki) i just dont get it we seem to be acquiring more and more and more duds each year,if anyone can be honest do you think the broncs and storm and the cows would have all of these16 players on their 1st grade roster???surely someone on here can see that??i know doyen can see it and dogmatix would definitely see it even though he is a proud bulldog fan...
i know a few on here will say oh we need all these players in our team we cant have a team of super stars such as the broncs,cows,and storm of today we need these sorts of players every team has them but not as many wouldnt you say?? our recruitment is getting worse it has not changed who did we buy that is outstanding in 2017? farah thats all heaven help us!!!!!!! And lastly hopefully out of the (dud 16) i am hoping that cherro and rochow do make some sort of impact to push out clark and tyrrell to the bears but sadly madge will keep clark but the rest definitely dont cut the mustard in 1st grade goodwin is too long in the tooth nowadays and johnny sutton aint far behind him and tyrrell should don the souths cares t-shirt instead of a 1st grade jumper in 2017.... Shadow...
 

DiegoNT

First Grade
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9,378
As I posted previously from a fantasy stat site.

Clark might not offer much in attack but certainly makes up for that in his defensive stats.

"
Clark is the Rabbitohs’ interchange specialist with 53 of his 59 appearances in the last three years coming from the bench, including all 23 appearances last season. He’s a very hard working defender who made the 8th highest tackles per minute (for players with 100 tackles) last season and had the 14th best missed tackle rate. Even though he doesn’t do much else players like that always have a place in the NRL. Here’s the top 10 for tackles per minute:

Player

Tackles

Tackles per min

Siliva Havili

152

0.77

Eloni Vunakece

136

0.75

Mitchell Frei

129

0.74

David Bhana

191

0.73

Ben Hannant

526

0.71

Jake Friend

1279

0.70

Shaun Fensom

504

0.70

Jason Clark

603

0.70

Daniel Alvaro

445

0.69

Mickey Paea

302

- See more at: http://renegadesfs.com/index.php/nr...0-south-sydney-rabbitohs#sthash.atQHzVG1.dpuf
Definitely an under rated player. Didn't run over players like the Twins but still played his role in our 2014 premiership
 

DiegoNT

First Grade
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Elijah Alick
Jai Arrow
Alex Barr
Joe Boyce
Mitchell Dodds
Herman Ese'ese
Salesi Funaki
Jamayne Isaako
Tautau Moga
Francis Molo
Todd Murphy
Joe Ofengahue
Tom Opacic
Moseses Pangai
Tevita Pangai
Jonus Pearson
Aaron Rockley
Dam Scarlett
Korbin Sims
Caleb Timu
Travis Wadell
Aaron Whitchurch.

Quick look at Broncos Wikipedia page finds a stack of Broncos players that are no names, unproven kids, steady first grade plodders,
 

foreverinourshadow

First Grade
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9,400
jason clark is a glorified nsw cup player told by my good mate at souths whom played in many of souths winning grand finals...its understandable on here that people dont have the knowledge of my good old mate at souths....Shadow....its laughable....
 

Souths Till I Die

First Grade
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i appreciate the input (TMMM) but with a team full of (use by date players and dud players and nsw cup players) such as this below we are not going to be playing in a grand final until we put the broom thru the (dud 16)below- (goodwin,nielsen,clark,tyrrell,gray,hunt,rochow,cherrington,rochow,turner,dietz,gosiewski,greinke,kelly,rudolf,talaki) i just dont get it we seem to be acquiring more and more and more duds each year,if anyone can be honest do you think the broncs and storm and the cows would have all of these16 players on their 1st grade roster???surely someone on here can see that??i know doyen can see it and dogmatix would definitely see it even though he is a proud bulldog fan...
i know a few on here will say oh we need all these players in our team we cant have a team of super stars such as the broncs,cows,and storm of today we need these sorts of players every team has them but not as many wouldnt you say?? our recruitment is getting worse it has not changed who did we buy that is outstanding in 2017? farah thats all heaven help us!!!!!!! And lastly hopefully out of the (dud 16) i am hoping that cherro and rochow do make some sort of impact to push out clark and tyrrell to the bears but sadly madge will keep clark but the rest definitely dont cut the mustard in 1st grade goodwin is too long in the tooth nowadays and johnny sutton aint far behind him and tyrrell should don the souths cares t-shirt instead of a 1st grade jumper in 2017.... Shadow...

Alright there is no way that you are being serious. You're naming players that haven't even played or been injured. I actually laughed at the comment because I thought you were joking. Tyrell and nielsen yes they are past it but the rest of the players you have named have barely been able to prove themselves. Shadow my friend, you've lost the plot. I'm not a fan of Clark either but he does his job. Robert Jennings and burns haven't even proven they can do their jobs and they're not on your dud 16
 

foreverinourshadow

First Grade
Messages
9,400
STID thank you for your input but i am dead serious and i never lose the plot i am of sound mind similar to r20 i predict lol joke joke joke hehehe,anyway last year my prediction was right just ask r20 and for this year i can only hope that a few young guns and at least rochow can displace tyrrell i am quite confident rochow will oust clarky or tyrrell but i predict tyrrell will fold before clarky why madge likes clark is beyond footballing knowledge.......and by the way burns will succeed at souths but jennings will take time lets see shall we and crichton is a gun he is on the way up....so if we think logically here for a moment id drop the duds,nsw cup players, and the long in the tooth players and put 4-5 young guns in our 1st grade squad for me this is a far better option than sticking with the (dud 16) Shadow...id throw crichton,tyrrel fuimaono and burns,and jennings in ASAP....,and play cook in the starting 13 either in the centres or on the wing id even use cook at no1 cook is dynamite,why not give inglis a stint in the centres? makes sense i believe who will catch cook on the fly on a kick return under our posts cook is lightening fast.........if i was the coach id make the 8 in 2017 lol.......
 
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Rabbits20

Immortal
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Alright there is no way that you are being serious. You're naming players that haven't even played or been injured. I actually laughed at the comment because I thought you were joking. Tyrell and nielsen yes they are past it but the rest of the players you have named have barely been able to prove themselves. Shadow my friend, you've lost the plot. I'm not a fan of Clark either but he does his job. Robert Jennings and burns haven't even proven they can do their jobs and they're not on your dud 16
Don't waste your time mate.

It's laughable.
 

Rabbits20

Immortal
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i appreciate the input (TMMM) but with a team full of (use by date players and dud players and nsw cup players) such as this below we are not going to be playing in a grand final until we put the broom thru the (dud 16)below- (goodwin,nielsen,clark,tyrrell,gray,hunt,rochow,cherrington,rochow,turner,dietz,gosiewski,greinke,kelly,rudolf,talaki) i just dont get it we seem to be acquiring more and more and more duds each year,if anyone can be honest do you think the broncs and storm and the cows would have all of these16 players on their 1st grade roster???surely someone on here can see that??i know doyen can see it and dogmatix would definitely see it even though he is a proud bulldog fan...
i know a few on here will say oh we need all these players in our team we cant have a team of super stars such as the broncs,cows,and storm of today we need these sorts of players every team has them but not as many wouldnt you say?? our recruitment is getting worse it has not changed who did we buy that is outstanding in 2017? farah thats all heaven help us!!!!!!! And lastly hopefully out of the (dud 16) i am hoping that cherro and rochow do make some sort of impact to push out clark and tyrrell to the bears but sadly madge will keep clark but the rest definitely dont cut the mustard in 1st grade goodwin is too long in the tooth nowadays and johnny sutton aint far behind him and tyrrell should don the souths cares t-shirt instead of a 1st grade jumper in 2017.... Shadow...
Hey Shadow.

We've still got Taulataltasi Tasi or whatever he's called and Siolo. They are playing for Norths so if injuries hit they could be called upon.

Goodwin isn't a dud. He's still valuable.

Nielsen is a dud.

Clark well let's see how he goes.

Tyrrell is a dud.

Gray is not a dud.

Hunt well let's see.

Rochow will go well.

Cherrington has potential.

Turner is too inconsistent. I hope this changes.

Deitz is similar to McTurtle I have heard which means he's a dud.

Gosiewski well his latest injury is setting him back. He doesn't wow me though.

Greinke isn't in our side for this week or the Norths side, he must be injured.

Kelly is a dud.

Rudolf has good potential.

I like Talakai, he's a work in progress.

Siolo is a dud.

Tasi is a dud.
 

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