Team of The Year Thus Far

[Raider_69]

interesting stuff mack

I know one thing, im looking forward to a day where Drury Low is outside of Daniel Vidot for the raiders in FG

 

[john26]

Dylan Farrell actually played 5/8 last night after the late withdrawal of Mundine. I also think he was fatigued from Wed night

 

[Deleted member 10972]

interesting stuff mack

I know one thing, im looking forward to a day where Drury Low is outside of Daniel Vidot for the raiders in FG

Agreed, that would be a great problem.

Vidot is a great centre, Low is a great winger.

If only the Raiders NYC team could see that though, I think they would play a lot better.

Didn't Brophy only score something like 3 or 4 tries in over 15 matches on the wing last season? I remember my mate telling me that, after giving Brophy massive wraps before the season started.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Just did a wingers analysis as well for the U20's this season. Again, the 'season' stats are up until last round, and I have added individually the players match stats for the current round that has just past. They are not included in the players season stats.

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Joe Vickery (Dragons NYC) – 13 games, 17 tries, 12 linebreaks, 1 linebreak assist, 0 try assists, 28 tackle breaks, average 12 runs for 108 metres

This round: 13 runs, 94 metres, 0 tackle breaks, 0 tries, 0 linebreaks


Kalifa Fai Fai Loa (Dragons NYC) – 13 games, 7 tries, 8 linebreaks, 1 linebreak assist, 0 try assists, 46 tackle breaks, average 14 runs for 133 metres

This round: 10 runs, 60 metres, 2 tackle breaks, 0 tries, 0 linebreaks


Bill Tupou (Warriors NYC) – 12 games, 12 tries, 11 linebreaks, 0 linebreak assists, 1 try assist, 41 tackle breaks, average 9 runs for 85 metres

This round: 11 runs, 75 metres, 2 tackle breaks, 0 tries, 0 linebreaks


Josh Jerome (Storm NYC) – 13 games (12 games at wing, the rest at five-eighth), 11 tries, 14 linebreaks (13 at wing), 2 linebreak assists, 4 try assists, 40 tackle breaks (37 at wing), average 9 runs for 82 metres (9 runs for 81 metres at wing)

This round: 7 runs, 48 metres, 1 tackle break, 0 tries, 0 linebreaks


Matt Duffie (Storm NYC) – 13 games (12 games at wing, the rest at halfback), 16 tries (13 at wing), 10 linebreaks (7 at wing), 1 linebreak assist, 0 try assists, 59 tackle breaks (50 at wing), average 10 runs for 116 metres (10 runs for 102 metres at wing)

This round: DNP (injured)


Kane Morgan (Rabbitohs NYC) – 13 games (11 at wing, the rest at centre/backrow), 15 tries (12 at wing), 11 linebreaks (8 at wing), 3 linebreak assists (2 at wing), 2 try assists (1 at wing), 68 tackle breaks (55 at wing), average 10 runs for 119 metres (10 runs for 120 metres at wing)

This round: 9 runs, 77 metres, 2 tackle breaks, 1 try, 0 linebreaks


Michael Fualalo (Panthers NYC) – 14 games, 11 tries (8 at wing), 11 linebreaks (8 at wing), 0 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 36 tackle breaks (27 at wing), average 9 runs for 66 metres (8 runs for 63 metres at wing)

This round: DNP (bye)


Coedi Towney (Tigers NYC) – 8 games (7 at wing, the rest at centre), 2 tries, 9 linebreaks (7 at wing), 2 linebreak assists, 2 try assists (1 at wing), 56 tackle breaks (48 at wing), average 15 runs for 146 metres (16 runs for 148 metres at wing)

This round: DNP (injured)


Thomas Ah Van (Warriors NYC) – 12 games (9 at wing, the rest at centre), 9 tries (5 at wing), 9 linebreaks (6 at wing), 2 linebreak assists (1 at wing), 1 try assist, 67 tackle breaks (53 at wing), average 9 runs for 83 metres (9 runs for 80 metres at wing)

This round: 11 runs, 72 metres, 0 tackle breaks, 1 linebreak, 1 try + 1 try assist


*Michael Oldfield (Manly NYC) – 11 games (10 at wing, the rest off the bench), 10 tries, 7 linebreaks, 1 linebreak assist (0 at wing), 2 try assists (1 at wing), 29 tackle breaks (27 at wing), average 9 runs for 97 metres (9 runs for 103 metres at wing)

This round: DNP (bye)


*Kevin Naiqama (Knights NYC) – 12 games (10 games at wing, the rest at centre/fullback), 4 tries (3 at wing), 11 linebreaks (10 at wing), 1 linebreak assist (0 at wing), 4 try assists (3 at wing), 60 tackle breaks (53 at wing), average 9 runs for 89 metres (9 runs for 88 metres at wing)

This round: 13 runs, 94 metres, 8 tackle breaks, 0 tries, 1 linebreak


*these stats are not accurate due to stats missing for the Rd 4 clash between Manly and Newcastle, in which these players participated in. It is still recorded whether they score a try, but everything else is considered as zero.

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There are some very talented wingers going around too, as can be seen. A few teams have wingers who seem to have been persisted with even though they have shown very little in regards to linebreaking and tryscoring ability, but these individuals have consistently found the ability to break the line and score on repeated occasions throughout the season. I will give particular wraps to Towney and Fai Fai Loa for clearly having a tremendous workrate to go with their natural flair, 130+ metres each is no mean feat! Towney's season has been halted by an injury, however.

Regular winger tryscorers from last season like Mason Pure (Bulldogs), Sonny Tuigamala (Panthers), Kevin Gordon (Titans) have all moved up to NRL and feeder clubs (NSW or QLD Cup) due to the age bracket, while players like Obediah Geia (Cowboys) and Jharal Yow Yeh (Broncos) have had their 2nd NYC seasons interfered with by injuries, stunting their development and undoubtedly robbed them of a chance to once again feature prominently as some of NYC's best tryscorers. The aforementioned Mason Pure (who missed every game between Rd 5 to Rd 16 due to injury) and Thomas Ah Van (who missed all but one game between Rd 6 and Rd 18 due to injury) had injury-interrupted seasons too, but both once returning finished their seasons very strongly to remain among the better wingers.

Then there is the case of Drury Low (Raiders) who was outstanding on the wing for Raiders last season, outshining the better known Michael Brophy easily (who had quite a disappointing season IMO), but so far in this season, it seems his linebreaking ability has been limited by a shift to the centres and fullback (albeit, Low did score himself a hattrick in the centres against Sharks in Round 14, but the fact remains that 6 of his 10 linebreaks this season have come in his 3 appearances on the wing).

Just to continue on this, it is fair to say that over the two seasons, probably the most consistently effective wingers have been Joe Vickery and Bill Tupou, in both seasons, these blokes have remained relatively injury free, and score tries on a regular basis for their teams.

I am actually surprised that no NRL teams have picked up either of these players yet, especially with neither likely to get a run in FG for their current sides.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

I just completed a Front Rower analysis for the NYC at this point in the season. Like all previous analysis's, the 'average' stats are based on Rounds 1-15, and do not include the Round 16 performance of the players. Those are stated separately, beneath each player, as 'Last Round'.

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Trent Merrin (Dragons NYC) – 9 games, 2 tries, 3 linebreaks, 25 offloads, 39 tackle breaks, average 20 runs for 173 metres, average 24 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: 0 tries, 0 linebreaks, 1 offload, 4 tackle breaks, 16 runs for 145 metres, 10 tackles for 0 missed


Siosaia Vave (Titans NYC) – 13 games, 2 tries, 2 linebreaks, 32 offloads, 41 tackle breaks, average 19 runs for 168 metres, average 19 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: 0 tries, 0 linebreaks, 3 offloads, 2 tackle breaks, 16 runs for 154 metres, 19 tackles for 0 missed


Tinirau Arona (Panthers NYC) – 10 games, 4 tries, 4 linebreaks, 8 offloads, 35 tackle breaks, average 17 runs for 144 metres, average 31 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: DNP (bye)


Jesse Bromwich (Storm NYC) – 13 games, 4 tries, 6 linebreaks, 18 offloads, 37 tackle breaks, average 15 runs for 134 metres, average 25 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: 2 tries, 3 linebreaks, 3 offloads, 5 tackle breaks, 18 runs for 162 metres, 36 tackles for 0 missed


Shaun Spring (Titans NYC) – 9 games, 1 try, 2 linebreaks, 0 offloads, 26 tackle breaks, average 15 runs for 127 metres, average 20 tackles for 2 missed

Last round (off bench): 1 try, 1 linebreak, 0 offloads, 1 tackle break, 9 runs for 66 metres, 14 tackles for 2 missed


Ronnie Alovilli (Cowboys NYC) – 11 games (1 off bench), 4 tries, 5 linebreaks, 11 offloads, 45 tackle breaks, average 14 runs for 127 metres, average 13 tackles for 2 missed

*Last round (bench): 0 tries, 0 linebreaks, 0 offloads, 3 tackle breaks, 3 runs for 42 metres, 2 tackles for 0 missed

*he was injured during this match


David Hala (Broncos NYC) – 13 games (2 off bench), 5 tries, 8 linebreaks, 17 offloads, 44 tackle breaks, average 14 runs for 123 metres, average 20 tackles for 1 missed

Last round: 0 tries, 0 linebreaks, 2 offloads, 1 tackle break, 12 runs for 118 metres, 17 tackles for 2 missed


Martin Taupau (Bulldogs NYC) – 13 games, 4 tries, 5 linebreaks, 8 offloads, 50 tackle breaks, average 15 runs for 117 metres, average 25 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: 1 try, 1 linebreak, 0 offloads, 11 tackle breaks, 12 runs for 103 metres, 30 tackles for 2 missed


*Jared Warea-Hargreaves – 11 games (2 at backrow), 3 linebreaks, 3 tries, 12 offloads, 24 tackle breaks, average 14 runs for 113 metres, average 17 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: DNP (bye)

*these stats are distorted by the fact that NRL Stats have not recorded the statistics for the Round 4 clash between Manly and Knights


Sam McKendry (Panthers NYC) – 12 games, 2 tries, 3 linebreaks, 20 offloads, 36 tackle breaks, average 12 runs for 110 metres, average 22 tackles for 2 missed

Last round: DNP (bye)


Mitchel Johnson (Eels NYC) – 12 games (1 off bench), 3 tries, 2 linebreaks, 8 offloads, 22 tackle breaks, average 12 runs for 107 metres, average 15 tackles for 3 missed

Last round: 1 try, 1 linebreak, 0 offloads, 6 tackle breaks, 6 runs for 68 metres, 20 tackles for 4 missed


Andrew Fifita (Tigers NYC) – 14 games (4 off bench), 6 tries, 7 linebreaks, 9 offloads, 74 tackle breaks, average 12 runs for 100 metres, average 20 tackles for 1 missed

Last round: 0 tries, 0 linebreaks, 0 offloads, 3 tackle breaks, 13 runs for 102 metres, 30 tackles for 3 missed


Jacob Nansen (Souths NYC) – 13 games, 0 tries, 0 linebreaks, 8 offloads, 10 tackle breaks, average 12 runs for 100 metres, average 12 tackles for 1 missed

Last round: DNP (injured)


Matt Britt (Raiders NYC) – 11 games (4 off bench), 0 tries, 2 linebreaks, 5 offloads, 14 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 100 metres, average 16 tackles for 1 missed

Last round: DNP (injured)


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Note that I did not mention NYC players who have been injured and thus played very few games (Martin Kennedy, Leeson Ah Mau, Aaron Woods), players who have more often than not played in the backrow or bench (Dunamis Lui, Pakosinasi Afu, Pulou Vaituutuu, Lama Tasi) or players who average less than 100m (Isaac Maliota, John Viiga, Thomas Hancock, Luke Laban, Brad Lupi, Josh Ailomai).

I have noticed that while Aiden Tolman, Josh McGuire, Eddy Pettybourne, Tim Mannah, and to a lesser extent John Kite, Tim Grant, Will Matthews and James Tamou, have all moved up to being regular first graders now, whilst 2008 standout props like Tohi Leha, Robert Worsely, Steve Darby, Matt Davidson, Mataupu Poching, Tim Robinson, Stanley Waqa, Louis Fanene and Nick Skinner are now floating around in QLD Cup or NSW Cup.

Russell Packer is still eligible for U20's, but has played out most of this season in the First Grade team, he is a step above the others, while Johnny Mannah seems to be playing First Grade more regularly than not, as well. Mitchell Dodds, Martin Kennedy, Aaron Woods and Leeson Ah Mau have so far had their 2nd seasons interrupted by injuries.

 

[tezzah1]

Siosaia Vave (Titans NYC) and Jesse Bromwich (Storm NYC) have to be the competitions top props at the moment.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

I would probably have Merrin and Arona very close in the mix. Arona has lost his early season form however, while Merrin seems to be getting better and better.

 

[pixi]

Siosaia Vave (Titans NYC) and Jesse Bromwich (Storm NYC) have to be the competitions top props at the moment.

Merrin would have to be in the competition compare the amount of games, and the stats. Thanks for the stats, very interesting.

 

[Raider_69]

Didn't Brophy only score something like 3 or 4 tries in over 15 matches on the wing last season? I remember my mate telling me that, after giving Brophy massive wraps before the season started.

He had a hideous season last year, i'd be surprised if he even scored that many, i had high hopes for him, was my pick for Raiders ROTY and a vital peice to our premiership hopes. As it turned out he played like sh*t and Vidot-Croker and particularly Dugan and Carney stepped up and made us forget about him

He's since gone up to SL in QLD cup, and after a scratching start to the season has really started tearing it up now. He's on the cusp of a FG birth now.

 

[Mal Meninga]

Has Leeson Ah Mau struggled this season? Last year he was right up there with Mannah and Packer.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Injuries, I believe. Only played 6 games in the NYC this year, in Round 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 and 16. In only 2 of his games has he made more than 100m. I believe he also has two average games in the NRL as well.

And you are correct, last year he was easily up there with the best. Last year he played 23 games, 8 tries, 11 linebreaks, 23 offloads, 90 tackle breaks, and averaged 14 runs for 127 metres.

 

[Panther_Daz]

I would probably have Merrin and Arona very close in the mix. Arona has lost his early season form however, while Merrin seems to be getting better and better.

Arona hasn't played in about 5 weeks. Was absolutely killing them before he got injured.

He is back this week though!

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Correct, Arona has not played since Round 12. Has anyone seen his Round 8 stats? 30 runs for 255 metres, 27 tackles, 3 offloads and 6 tackle breaks.

 

[Panther_Daz]

Correct, Arona has not played since Round 12. Has anyone seen his Round 8 stats? 30 runs for 255 metres, 27 tackles, 3 offloads and 6 tackle breaks.

He is a machine. If he didn't go off injured early in the SG Ball final in 2007 Penrith would have won it IMO. Was a huge loss when he went off.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

This is the Second Row / Lock Forward compilation. All players must average over 80 metres a game (I know this is critical of more defensively orientated players like Jason Clark, Guy Ford and Luke Latham, but in the NRL, a good running game is required).


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Pakosinasi Afu (Bulldogs NYC) – 13 games, 13 tries, 19 linebreaks, 0 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 16 offloads, 59 tackle breaks, average 10 runs for 96 metres, average 11 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 1 offload, 1 tackle break, 8 runs for 60 metres, 12 tackles for 1 missed

Jake Marketo (Dragons NYC) – 12 games, 6 tries, 7 linebreaks, 6 linebreak assists, 3 try assists, 8 offloads, 43 tackle breaks, average 12 runs for 103 metres, average 21 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 1 offload, 2 tackle breaks, 15 runs for 111 metres, 27 tackles for 1 missed

Dunamis Lui (Broncos NYC) – 13 games, 3 tries, 4 linebreaks, 1 linebreak assist, 1 try assist, 4 offloads, 20 tackle breaks, average 14 runs for 102 metres, average 25 tackles for 4 missed
Last round: 1 offload, 10 tackle breaks, 12 runs for 112 metres, 17 tackles for 2 missed

Fred Makimare (Storm NYC) – 14 games, 6 tries, 6 linebreaks, 5 linebreak assists, 2 try assist, 13 offloads, 45 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 98 metres, average 20 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 6 runs for 51 metres, 18 tackles for 2 missed

Mark Nicholls (Raiders NYC) – 12 games, 8 tries, 6 linebreaks, 3 linebreak assists, 2 try assists, 9 offloads, 25 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 96 metres, average 28 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: 13 runs for 89 metres, 31 tackles for 2 missed

Simon Dwyer (Tigers NYC) – 13 games, 3 tries, 6 linebreaks, 4 linebreak assists, 1 try assist, 27 offloads, 52 tackle breaks, average 10 runs for 92 metres, average 20 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 1 try, 1 linebreak, 2 offloads, 2 tackle breaks, 13 runs for 120 metres, 28 tackles for 4 missed

Jason Schirnack (Tigers NYC) – 11 games, 10 tries, 11 linebreaks, 3 linebreak assists, 1 try assist, 16 offloads, 39 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 89 metres, average 23 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: 1 linebreak, 4 offloads, 1 tackle break, 15 runs for 127 metres, 36 tackles for 4 missed

Brad Hudson (Dragons NYC) – 12 games, 3 tries, 2 linebreaks, 0 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 4 offloads, 25 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 83 metres, average 24 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: 1 offload, 3 tackle breaks, 12 runs for 101 metres, 36 tackles for 4 missed

*Darcy Lussick (Manly NYC) – 12 games, 4 tries, 3 linebreaks, 0 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 9 offloads, 17 tackle breaks, average 10 runs for 84 metres, average 25 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: DNP (bye)

Daniel Penese (Panthers NYC) – 13 games, 3 tries, 4 linebreaks, 6 linebreak assists, 7 try assists, 14 offloads, 32 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 85 metres, average 26 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: DNP (bye)

Brock Molan (Souths NYC) – 13 games, 4 tries, 8 linebreaks, 5 linebreak assists, 2 try assists, 2 offloads, 34 tackle breaks, average 10 runs for 86 metres, average 20 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: 1 offload, 2 tackle breaks, 9 runs for 79 metres, 19 tackles for 6 missed

Jason Baiteri (Eels NYC) – 13 games, 3 tries, 2 linebreaks, 3 linebreak assists, 1 try assist, 27 offloads, 30 tackle breaks, average 14 runs for 110 metres, average 30 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 4 offloads, 7 tackle breaks, 15 runs for 124 metres, 40 tackles for 2 missed

Dane Hogan (Cowboys NYC) – 14 games, 3 tries, 3 linebreaks, 0 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 0 offloads, 29 tackle breaks, average 15 runs for 108 metres, average 23 tackles for 1 missed
Last round: 1 tackle break, 20 runs for 150 metres, 20 tackles for 1 missed

*Jamie Buhrer (Manly NYC) – 13 games, 4 tries, 6 linebreaks, 5 linebreak assists, 1 try assist, 12 offloads, 24 tackle breaks, average 15 runs for 118 metres, average 21 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: DNP (bye)

Matt Hyland (Tigers NYC) – 14 games, 2 tries, 3 linebreaks, 1 linebreak assist, 1 try assist, 8 offloads, 33 tackle breaks, average 13 runs for 97 metres, average 37 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 2 offloads, 2 tackle breaks, 15 runs for 88 metres, 35 tackles for 5 missed

Jarrad Kennedy (Raiders NYC) – 10 games, 3 tries, 5 linebreaks, 2 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 7 offloads, 17 tackle breaks, average 11 runs for 85 metres, average 31 tackles for 3 missed
Last round: 1 try, 1 linebreak, 1 offload, 2 tackle breaks, 14 runs for 97 metres, 32 tackles for 3 missed

*Constantine Mika (Knights NYC) – 12 games, 4 tries, 4 linebreaks, 0 linebreak assists, 0 try assists, 25 offloads, 37 tackle breaks, average 10 runs for 81 metres, average 18 tackles for 2 missed
Last round: DNP (injured)

*all asterisk players have distorted stats due to NRL Stats failing to record the detailed statistics of the Round 4 match between Manly and Newcastle



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It is interesting to see the entire Tigers backrow there. The main lock-forward contenders on that list are Baiteri, Buhrer and Hyland. Aaron Hammett (Souths) was an outstanding backrower last year who has had this season interrupted by injury, but he is still eligible for NYC, and the same goes for Kenny Edwards (Manly, now Dragons). Matt Mundine was an outstanding lock last season, but has now made a seemingly permanent move to five-eighth.

 

[Panther_Daz]

I didn't realise Penese had 6 line break assists and 7 try assists. Might as well play 5/8 !

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Penese has been an outstanding ballplaying forward this season so far. 6 linebreak assists and 7 try assists edges out Brad Takairangi (Souths backrower, 7 linebreak assists and 6 try assists), Troyden Watene (Cowboys backrower, 6 linebreak assists and 6 try assists) and Joel Romelo (Panthers lock, 4 linebreak assists, 6 try assists).

Matt Mundine was in a class of his own last season, however! Last season, Matt Mundine while palying mostly in the pack made 20 try assists and 20 linebreak assists. Next best ballplaying forward was Daniel Harrison (Bulldogs lock, 9 linebreak assists, 11 try assists), Tom Symonds (Roosters lock/five-eighth, 5 linebreak assists, 11 try assists), Daniel O'Regan (Warriors lock/five-eighth, 7 linebreak assists, 9 try assists), Jamie Theoharous (Panthers lock, 6 linebreak assists, 9 try assists) and Ken Edwards (Manly backrower, 10 linebreak assists, 8 try assists).

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Just a quick update, I was looking over the prop analysis and it really seems to be settling out into the pools of the mid-range, and the upper class props.

The OUTSTANDING props (170-130 metres average) in the NYC are:

Trent Merrin (St George-Illawarra Dragons)
Sioisaia Vave (Gold Coast Titans)
Tinirau Arona (Penrith Panthers)
Jesse Bromwich (Melbourne Storm)

The VERY GOOD props (129-100 metres average) in the NYC are:

Shaun Spring (Gold Coast Titans)
David Hala (Brisbane Broncos)
Ronnie Alovilli (North Queensland Cowboys)
Martin Taupau (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Sam McKendry (Penrith Panthers)
Jared Warea-Hargreaves (Manly Sea Eagles)
Andrew Fifita (West Tigers)

The MID-RANGE props (99-85 metres average) in the NYC are:

Mitchel Johnson (Parramatta Eels)
Jacob Nansen (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Matt Britt (Canberra Raiders)
Brad Lupi (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Isaac Maliota (Sydney Roosters)
Pulou Vaituutuu (Melbourne Storm)
Mitchell Allgood (Parramatta Eels)
Josh Ailomai (Newcastle Knights)
John Viiga (Cronulla Sharks)

I am sure that Shaun Maloney (Cowboys), Aaron Woods (Tigers), Leeson Ah Mau (Warriors) and Martin Kennedy (Roosters) would all be up in the 'Very Good' to 'Outstanding' class if they were completely fit too. Illja Radan (Sea Eagles), Mitchell Dodds (Broncos) and Thomas Hancock (Dragons) have lost a lot of the form they had from last season.

 

[fortae]

... and Thomas Hancock (Dragons) have lost a lot of the form they had from last season.

No. What Hancock lost is 4 carries a game because of some changes in the game plan and the forward rotation. He's playing better than last year, improving his metres per carry and defence.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

His defence has improved, yes, but you would think with Rory O'Brien being absent that Hancocks workrate would have risen.