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brook said:Sportsjock said:JK said:but rather for agreeing to take a stand and cop it on the chin like real men.
A big pfft for your distinction rape vs sexual assault - pure pedantry.
As to the above and assuming that the actual names are known to police and club (it is all alleged at this stage) why should they have to take the bad publicity upon themselves?
Well to answer your question ( if common sense cant already answer it yourself ), to firstly show that they are confident they have nothing to concern themselves about, and secondly, so blokes like Steve Price and Hazem El Masri don't have to walk around the streets feeling like criminals.
If a team mate cannot take away that type of smear from those who are definitely not involved, what type of loyal team mates are they to the rest of the team?
If that isnt enough reason to be a stand up loyal man about it, then I have no idea what is...
And as for you believing that I am being pedantic over the meaning of Sexual assualt, as far as I see, there is a major difference between verbally saying something like " hey nice legs babe " ( which in todays world is now viewed as sexual assault if it is at an inappropriate time such as at work ), and belting up a female and forcing her into sexual intercourse ( rape ).
There is a wide spectrum of SEXUAL ASSAULT JK , and I am sorry, but I am not going to let you throw around the graphic word RAPE , when its SEXUAL ASSAULT.
If it comes out that there was raping involved, then by all means, but for now, it could be something extremely minor - in both the Bulldogs and St Kilda cases.
So lets go easy on the graphic use of that word hey?
I dont believe thats being pedantic.
I was under the impression that sexual assult = rape
the other 'lesser' offences come under indecent assult
of course that could be just in nsw not victoria - I'm no lawyer
You're right, when a person is charged for "rape" the technical term used is sexual assault. There is no such charge as rape, it's just a common term which newspapers like to use in headlines to sell more papers, but is not limited to intercourse. Any sexual penetration that is not consented to is charged as sexual assault such as forced oral sex, cunnilingus or any object manipulated by another person. This info is straight out of Section 61H of the NSW Crimes Act. It would be the same in Mexico