Good to see you took yourself off for a few minutes to check if you were right or not..They need better marketing everyone is confused, no wonder NRL fans are not sure.
Good to see you took yourself off for a few minutes to check if you were right or not..
That's how the system should be working..
I'd imagine trying to do a cognitive test on Leilua would be very difficult.
How the hell would you tell his brain has been affected?
BJ Leluia was the best so far this weekend.
Went down on tackle 2 or 3 after friendly high contact (dubious anyway), killed all momentum Manly had 5m out from the Raiders line cause the ref blew time off.
Got up 2 mins later testing ankles, knees, cramps, etc..stays on the field, then goes for free HIA interchange 5 mins later.
So was he concussed at the time or not ?
While the process is still a work in progress and is not perfect the amount of ignorance I read on online forums regarding is simply so damn ignorance its ridiculous is is obviously not written by medical professionals or anyone with serious RL trainer experience.
To make it in the NRL there are 2 points where a player can be deemed requiring assessment.
Firstly the trainer notices an incident or behaviour that raises flags and an onfield assessment will take place and if appropriate they will be removed from the field to undergo more rigorous testing.. Contrary to popular internet and media belief these trainers are not idiots and know what they are doing.
Secondly if the DR (or someone else) notices something that could have caused impact to the head then the DR will view replays to determine if in their opinion they might require more testing to determine if they are concussed.
On field assessments aren't not perfect but they are conducted by professionals.
The Milford example is actually where this has worked properly. The Trainer checked Milford thought he was OK, the DR viewed the impact thought a test was necessary. He passed the test, the trainer wasn't wrong. no problem
There are some important facts and I mean FACTS that you need to understand. Concussion symptoms don't always present at first and may not be detected during the on field assessment. The trainers know these players they work with them everyday and know them better than an idiot watching their TV. The symptoms that the armchair experts are convinced are due to concussion are not always due to concussion. Most players do not want to come off.
I worked with a player in a senior competition and had several calls for him to be taken off for concussion. But he was never concussed, he was just dumb as and a bit crazy.
They have hit their quota by fining 3 clubs already. It doesnt count if it is the Broncos or the Dogs. The Milford one was a joke as was Eastwood today.
Incorrect.. the HIA are a membership group for those in the home construction industry
While the process is still a work in progress and is not perfect the amount of ignorance I read on online forums regarding is simply so damn ignorance its ridiculous is is obviously not written by medical professionals or anyone with serious RL trainer experience.
To make it in the NRL there are 2 points where a player can be deemed requiring assessment.
Firstly the trainer notices an incident or behaviour that raises flags and an onfield assessment will take place and if appropriate they will be removed from the field to undergo more rigorous testing.. Contrary to popular internet and media belief these trainers are not idiots and know what they are doing.
Secondly if the DR (or someone else) notices something that could have caused impact to the head then the DR will view replays to determine if in their opinion they might require more testing to determine if they are concussed.
On field assessments aren't not perfect but they are conducted by professionals.
The Milford example is actually where this has worked properly. The Trainer checked Milford thought he was OK, the DR viewed the impact thought a test was necessary. He passed the test, the trainer wasn't wrong. no problem
There are some important facts and I mean FACTS that you need to understand. Concussion symptoms don't always present at first and may not be detected during the on field assessment. The trainers know these players they work with them everyday and know them better than an idiot watching their TV. The symptoms that the armchair experts are convinced are due to concussion are not always due to concussion. Most players do not want to come off.
I worked with a player in a senior competition and had several calls for him to be taken off for concussion. But he was never concussed, he was just dumb as and a bit crazy.
Exactly, bringing on someone like Kasiano as the HIA replacement is exactly what I mean - he only does 15 mins spells anyway, they're just getting it free now...Fairly sure the Dogs had Tolman go off HIA when he was visibly fine and come back on. Fairly sure that was Kasiano on both times. Effectively they got 4 free substitutions. Still gassed out. Hilarious cheats.
Give him a phone.... If he tries to call the cops, he is done.I'd imagine trying to do a cognitive test on Leilua would be very difficult.
How the hell would you tell his brain has been affected?
It's a mess. A forward gets a slight knock anywhere around the shoulders up and he's off for a HIA.
A back cops a whack around the head and it's, "looks like he's ok to play on!".
May as well go back to unlimited interchange.
How do we combat this, honestly? It's not like the NRL can put a cap on the number of them given per game.
Easy - make it so, when the player comes back on, THAT interchange counts as one of the 8. They already get a free interchange when the concussed player goes off, why is it also free when they come back on?
It would be very interesting to see stats about which teams have how many HIA assessments each game.