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  1. elyod138

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    One of the best episodes of the show IMO. I much prefer the slower paced ones.

    I hope Akecheta is a main character from now on, the actor is amazing (also good in Fargo).
     
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    I loved that episode.

    Still this season is a lot more needlessly convoluted then the first.
     
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    great ep
     
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    Ep9 goes alright..
     
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    That was pretty heavy.
     
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    brutal in all the right ways.
     
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    Could not believe William is that far gone he can't tell the difference between hosts and real human beings.
     
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    That was wild
     
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    It really changed my opinion of him in a hurry - he's gone from being the one I was cheering for to the out and out villain in the space of one scene.
     
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    Apart from a couple of episodes - the story telling hasn’t been that strong this season
     
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    Agree but eps 4 and 8 were amazing
     
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    Total mindf**k as expected. I liked it, but I haven't wrapped my head around a lot of it yet.
     
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    Yeah. Especially the final scene.

    Actually, especially all of the scenes.

    Am... am I a host? Is LU a host?

    And... what’s the show about now?
     
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    Well the post-credits scene was confirmed to be (yet) another timeline set much further in the future and thus largely unrelated to the events of season 2.

    read: William is not a host at any point up until when the gun backfires.

    People were worried he'd be a host and he wasn't (thankfully) but Stubbs being a host (also confirmed in same/similar interview) was pretty damn lame I thought.

    Not sure what it says about the delivery if the showrunners have to explain things in interviews afterwards.
     
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    Yeah. I mean, I’m still enjoying it. But it’s driftimg towards Mr Robot territory where it’s feeling a bit like homework it’s so convoluted.
     
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    J Nolan pretty much turned it into Memento with hosts
     
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    Do you have a link? I thought I understood what was going on but apparently not.
     
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    For the post-credits scene being set in the future
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...-2-finale-explained-lisa-joy-season-3-1122744

    It was related to his story in the rest of the season in the sense that we expect his test of fidelity is to go through the season 2 events and make the same decisions ending up at the door each time.

    That being said, I still can't figure out (nor can anyone else apparently from what I've read) why 'the door' game was meant for William. It seemed to have no genuine resolution.

    For Stubbs being a host
    https://www.thewrap.com/westworld-finale-stubbs-host-hale-luke-hemsworth/

    I've read another article where it sounds like the idea of Stubb being a host was a 'late' idea by Nolan. I think above all else, it was the worst idea they came up with. It felt like a completely unnecessary 'gotcha' moment. This season has been criticised as being too focused on having gotcha moments rather than a meaningful story and I can't help but agree in retrospect. I much preferred (head-canon) the interpretation that I had originally watching the show, where he was just a human assisting Ford's cause who knew the hosts and could recognise them easily.
     
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    Thanks mate
     
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    Yeah, the last 48 hours hasn’t seen it sit very well with me.

    I think the writers are confusing complicated with good. If your audience can’t follow the story unless you break it down for them online after the episodes end that’s not clever - it’s bad writing.
     
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