Youth vs Established

[THE MESSIAH !!!]

This season has been shocking except we have seen some bright lights on horizon, the big disapointments have been the established players.

On the youth side

Feki & Leutele - have improved after another year
Gagan/Holmes/Brown/Politoni - Have came into the team and stood up they make odd mistake but nothing like the established players
Sopoaga - Even with limited game time is improving and looks likely
Even rookie coaches Shepphard/Morris - seem like they are trying to introduce new players and bloody ball movement

Established let down players

Ayshford - Disaster buy
Wright - Again has failed
Carney - On field and off field has let club down
Robson - Seems yards slower and kicking game well has none
Gordon - Tries but no offload saving grace goalkicking
Gibbs- Seemed like playing year out
Lewis - Can get fit for NSW but not us
Gallen - Seems that another all about NSW, this year seems less interested in Sharks he puts in but maybe just me but desire dosent seem same
Coach Sharp - Enough said

We bring the youth guys up expect mistakes and hoping for upside but for them to outplay the established guys, out enthuse them this is a concern

 

[webShark]

This season has been shocking except we have seen some bright lights on horizon, the big disapointments have been the established players.

On the youth side

Feki & Leutele - have improved after another year
Gagan/Holmes/Brown/Politoni - Have came into the team and stood up they make odd mistake but nothing like the established players
Sopoaga - Even with limited game time is improving and looks likely
Even rookie coaches Shepphard/Morris - seem like they are trying to introduce new players and bloody ball movement

Established let down players

Ayshford - Disaster buy
Wright - Again has failed
Carney - On field and off field has let club down
Robson - Seems yards slower and kicking game well has none
Gordon - Tries but no offload saving grace goalkicking
Gibbs- Seemed like playing year out
Lewis - Can get fit for NSW but not us
Gallen - Seems that another all about NSW, this year seems less interested in Sharks he puts in but maybe just me but desire dosent seem same
Coach Sharp - Enough said

We bring the youth guys up expect mistakes and hoping for upside but for them to outplay the established guys, out enthuse them this is a concern

Messiah, unlike ASADA , you may have something. Stating the obvious.

But I do largely agree

 

[carinashark]

Agree. We have to see if Flano stays, or if he has learned anything from his time away , or will Shep / Morris take over ? Are we are close to a playing roster turning point. The game has changed to a faster pace new younger players are hitting the NRL at most clubs including us.

 

[MaxPower]

The only reason the young blokes got a chance was because no one else was fit to play. They'll be back in reserves next season.

 

[webShark]

The only reason the young blokes got a chance was because no one else was fit to play. They'll be back in reserves next season.

I laughed watching the Knights hearing Chris Houston was unsigned. Shark in waiting, come on down.

 

[Weaponhead]

I laughed watching the Knights hearing Chris Houston was unsigned. Shark in waiting, come on down.

Don't even joke about that.

 

[Quigs]

He'd be a decent signing for us. We'd just have to fatten him up a bit.

 

[Frenzy.]

Houston?

We can do much worse than him

Here, choose. I highlighted some certainties

Centre
Kirisome Auva'a, Beau Champion, Jordan Drew, John Folau, Mahe Fonua, Yaw Kiti Glymin, Aaron Gray, Nathan Green, Hymel Hunt, Richard Kennar, Siuatonga Likiliki, Wes Naiqama, Mosese Pangai, Api Pewhairangi, Tony Satini, Timana Tahu, Bodene Thompson, Brayden Wiliame, Jonathan Wright

19 players off contract

Fullback
Evander Cummins, Nathan Gardner, Pat Templeman, Wayne Ulugia

4 players off contract

Five-eighth
Jack Bird, Todd Carney, Daniel Holdsworth, Tom Humble, Ben Jones, Luke Kelly, Kodi Nikorima, Duncan Paia'Aua, Kyle Stanley, Michael Witt

10 players off contract

Halfback
Matt Beddow, Luke Capewell, Cameron Cullen, Reece Davidson, Toby Evans, Beau Henry, Sam Irwin, Ryley Jacks, Robert Lui, Penani Manumalealii, Matt Minto, Michael Morris, Darren Nicholls, Sam Williams

14 players off contract
Hooker
Kurt Baptiste, Masada Iosefa, Kurt Kara, Heath L'Estrange, Anthony Mitchell, Pat Politoni, Shane Pumipi, Chad Redman, Joel Romelo, Michael Sio, Scott Sorenson, Matt Srama, Travis Waddell

13 players off contract

Lock
Lachlan Burr, Ethan Cook, Jamie Dowling, Matt Hilder, Reni Maitua, Cody Nelson, Joseph Paulo, Nathan Smith

8 players off contract

Prop
Ajuma Adams, Josh Ailaomai, Sam Anderson, Tinirau Arona, Luke Bailey, Caleb Binge, Michael Bullock, Mitchell Dodds, Bryce Gibbs, David Gower, Jon Green, Matt Groat, Glenn Hall, Ben Hannant, James Hasson, Saulala Houma, Felise Kaufusi, Jason King, Vincent Leuluai, Toka Likiliki, Dunamis Lui, Sam Mataora, Fuifui Moimoi, Francis Molo, Nathaniel Neale, Joe Ofahengaue, Agnatius Paasi, Lloyd Perrett, Nathaniel Peteru, Tim Robinson, Junior Roqica, George Rose, Kem Seru, Ben Spina, Jake Trbojevic, Paterika Vaivai, Siosaia Vave, Albert Vete

38 players off contract

Second-row
Harlan Alaalatoa, Jamie Buhrer, Anthony Cherrington, Tom Eisenhuth, David Fa'alogo, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Jarred Farlow, Marvin Filipo, Jake Foster, Bronson Harrison, Chris Houston, Matt Hyland, Tom Kingston, Taniela Lasalo, Epalahame Lauaki, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs, Ben Lowe, Lorenzo Ma'Afu, Sione Masima, Willie Mason, Willie Mataka, Will Matthews, Tom Murphy, Clint Newton, Kyle O'Donnell, Cory Paterson, Joe Picker, Tupou Sopoaga, Tom Symonds, Zane Tetevano, Ricky Thorby, Vaipuna Tia Kilifi, Joseph Ualesi, Andrew Vela

34 players off contract

Wing
Kayne Brennan, Matt Duffie, Eric Grothe, Jy Hitchcox, Drury Low, Nathan Merritt, Stewart Mills, Eto Nabuli, Reece Robinson, Paul Rokolati, Sami Sauiluma, Nathan Stapleton, Corey Thompson, Lote Tuqiri

14 players off contract

 

[Madsharkie]

Fugg, pretty grim pickings. Must haves are centre, halfback and prop (be nice if Gal finally played there).

Centre - Beau Champion and Mahe Fonua for mine (don't know much about most of the others).

Halfback - Lui is probably the pick, but also a deadsh*t

Prop - fugg I don't know. Dunamis Lui?

Of the other positions I think Kodi Nikorima (5/8), Matt Duffie (wing) and Joseph Paulo (lock) COULD be ok.

FTR I think we should re-sign Tupou Sopoaga.

 

[webShark]

FTR I think we should re-sign Tupou Sopoaga.

Agree. Plus I wouldn't mind seeing James Hasson back. Don't understand why he was let go. Heard he got a ludicrous low offer to stay. Where have I heard that before. He couldn't crack our twenties regularly. Granted he is no Petero but better than D Fifita, Mexico, Vave and Richard for starters.

Half back is a problem. Just have to go hard for Hunt or Reynolds. Whoever is deemed surplus.I thought Hunt was never going to make it but proved me wrong.

Centre needs addressing. I like Leutele but even less of a try threat than Pom. 4 tries is not good enough. Only ok if the other centre is 15 plus. With our cattle, surely Feki is worth a go.

I see absolutely no sense in getting Mitch Brown. He is reserve quality but no doubt will start for us.

 

[webShark]

Houston?

We can do much worse than him

Here, choose. I highlighted some certainties

Centre
Kirisome Auva'a, Beau Champion, Jordan Drew, John Folau, Mahe Fonua, Yaw Kiti Glymin, Aaron Gray, Nathan Green, Hymel Hunt, Richard Kennar, Siuatonga Likiliki, Wes Naiqama, Mosese Pangai, Api Pewhairangi, Tony Satini, Timana Tahu, Bodene Thompson, Brayden Wiliame, Jonathan Wright

19 players off contract

Fullback
Evander Cummins, Nathan Gardner, Pat Templeman, Wayne Ulugia

4 players off contract

Five-eighth
Jack Bird, Todd Carney, Daniel Holdsworth, Tom Humble, Ben Jones, Luke Kelly, Kodi Nikorima, Duncan Paia'Aua, Kyle Stanley, Michael Witt

10 players off contract

Halfback
Matt Beddow, Luke Capewell, Cameron Cullen, Reece Davidson, Toby Evans, Beau Henry, Sam Irwin, Ryley Jacks, Robert Lui, Penani Manumalealii, Matt Minto, Michael Morris, Darren Nicholls, Sam Williams

14 players off contract
Hooker
Kurt Baptiste, Masada Iosefa, Kurt Kara, Heath L'Estrange, Anthony Mitchell, Pat Politoni, Shane Pumipi, Chad Redman, Joel Romelo, Michael Sio, Scott Sorenson, Matt Srama, Travis Waddell

13 players off contract

Lock
Lachlan Burr, Ethan Cook, Jamie Dowling, Matt Hilder, Reni Maitua, Cody Nelson, Joseph Paulo, Nathan Smith

8 players off contract

Prop
Ajuma Adams, Josh Ailaomai, Sam Anderson, Tinirau Arona, Luke Bailey, Caleb Binge, Michael Bullock, Mitchell Dodds, Bryce Gibbs, David Gower, Jon Green, Matt Groat, Glenn Hall, Ben Hannant, James Hasson, Saulala Houma, Felise Kaufusi, Jason King, Vincent Leuluai, Toka Likiliki, Dunamis Lui, Sam Mataora, Fuifui Moimoi, Francis Molo, Nathaniel Neale, Joe Ofahengaue, Agnatius Paasi, Lloyd Perrett, Nathaniel Peteru, Tim Robinson, Junior Roqica, George Rose, Kem Seru, Ben Spina, Jake Trbojevic, Paterika Vaivai, Siosaia Vave, Albert Vete

38 players off contract

Second-row
Harlan Alaalatoa, Jamie Buhrer, Anthony Cherrington, Tom Eisenhuth, David Fa'alogo, Raymond Faitala-Mariner, Jarred Farlow, Marvin Filipo, Jake Foster, Bronson Harrison, Chris Houston, Matt Hyland, Tom Kingston, Taniela Lasalo, Epalahame Lauaki, Tom Learoyd-Lahrs, Ben Lowe, Lorenzo Ma'Afu, Sione Masima, Willie Mason, Willie Mataka, Will Matthews, Tom Murphy, Clint Newton, Kyle O'Donnell, Cory Paterson, Joe Picker, Tupou Sopoaga, Tom Symonds, Zane Tetevano, Ricky Thorby, Vaipuna Tia Kilifi, Joseph Ualesi, Andrew Vela

34 players off contract

Wing
Kayne Brennan, Matt Duffie, Eric Grothe, Jy Hitchcox, Drury Low, Nathan Merritt, Stewart Mills, Eto Nabuli, Reece Robinson, Paul Rokolati, Sami Sauiluma, Nathan Stapleton, Corey Thompson, Lote Tuqiri

14 players off contract

Correct. Unless we go successfully to SuperLeague the pickings are grim. Given players who come to us usually deteriorate we are in strife. Eto Nabuli for me. A decent coach might make something of Sauiluma , so rule him out.

We absolutely need to recruit fast, talented outside backs. Haven't done for years. So never mind next year, I see at least 4 more barren years. That's a guess. I will never see a premiership unless 15 other clubs get stripped of points for exceeding the cap.

 

[Card Shark]

I will never see a premiership unless 15 other clubs get stripped of points for exceeding the cap.

That'll be the year the ASADA court cases finally conclude & we will be disqualified that year.

 

[Quigs]

Cap'n, question from the floor without notice.

How many of those 2nd rowers could we sign and still be under the cap.

 

[coolumsharkie]

Geez that Kyle O'Donnell was a giant flop after all. Not sure why you bolded out all those 2nd rowers Frenz.

 

[Card Shark]

Geez that Kyle O'Donnell was a giant flop after all.

Didnt leave early enough ?

 

[DJDL]

Geez that Kyle O'Donnell was a giant flop after all. Not sure why you bolded out all those 2nd rowers Frenz.

It took me a second. Think about it.... :lol:

 

[Frenzy.]

Cap'n, question from the floor without notice.

How many of those 2nd rowers could we sign and still be under the cap.

Well old mate if we can get some third party deals from Four 'n' Twenty or Garlo's we should be able to break open the piggy bank and get 'em all for a pie and a few quid each.

 

[Frenzy.]

Just quietly, I see Nathan Green is in that list.

I thought we signed him after Drags gave him a release. Was around June I thought I read that in here somewhere.

 

[stevie013]

Just quietly, I see Nathan Green is in that list.

I thought we signed him after Drags gave him a release. Was around June I thought I read that in here somewhere.

we did and sent him back to them. dont know why.

 

[Quigs]

Too skinny