Zillman signs with Titans

[Sood]

Maybe the raiders should just start paying overs for good players who are looking for some $$$

 

[DeeGan]

Raiders fans like to lie to themselves to make them feel better about the club.

I am not the only one then who thought that ... (see their comical BS re: Weyman's hit)

 

[Raider_69]

So raiders fans go from pretty much thinking Zillman is the bomb to saying he is a risky signing when many of you were saying how you needed to keep him at the Raiders

He did that in the very instance he did his 2nd ACL in 3 games
its not so much that he did an ACL let alone 2 in 3 games, its the ese in which the 2nd one went... he didnt have any external pressure applied, he didnt do anything abnormal. Infact moments prior he stepped of that same leg perfectly and raced 80 metres to score, no one within COOOE of him... so its no even a case of him coming back too early... his knee was 100%, and it collaspsed on him so easily... worrying signs for William Zillman

4 years is DEFINITELY a risky contract for the titans.

 

[Raider Azz]

zillman IS the bomb, and is a huge loss for us. however, 4 years is indeed risky.

good luck to zilly, can't say the same about the titans though.

 

[skeepe]

Meaning?

Meaning you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The Raiders salary cap problems related to 1991 anyway I believe (yes, one year only) and they were bonuses for reaching the grand final and making Origin and the test team.

Many, many teams have been guilty of this since. In fact, it's pretty much a yearly occurrence these days, in most cases by much more than the Raiders were over.

 

[no name]

Meaning you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The Raiders salary cap problems related to 1991 anyway I believe (yes, one year only) and they were bonuses for reaching the grand final and making Origin and the test team.

Many, many teams have been guilty of this since. In fact, it's pretty much a yearly occurrence these days, in most cases by much more than the Raiders were over.

They illegally assembled a premiership winning team, much like the Bulldogs.

 

[skeepe]

They illegally assembled a premiership winning team, much like the Bulldogs.

Keep on digging mate... You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Comparing it to the Bulldogs is laughable and about as stupid as it gets.

 

[no name]

Keep on digging mate... You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Comparing it to the Bulldogs is laughable and about as stupid as it gets.

Whats laughable is your ignorance. They lured players to the club by offering them more, thus going over the salary cap. When they realised what a great team they had, the players decided to take a pay cut to remain in a successful team.
Sounds pretty similar to the Bulldogs in early 00s

 

[skeepe]

So where was the 34 point deduction for breaching the salary cap?

 

[(KW)]

Whats laughable is your ignorance. They lured players to the club by offering them more, thus going over the salary cap. When they realised what a great team they had, the players decided to take a pay cut to remain in a successful team.
Sounds pretty similar to the Bulldogs in early 00s

Get some brains into ya

 

[nqboy]

He's 90kg, not that small.

:shock: I'd have to see that for myself to believe it. He looks lucky to be 80kgs on TV.

 

[nqboy]

As I said in the Raiders forum, I'm numb to this - I normally would be furious.

What's the point in the Raiders bothering with developing players anymore? It's clearly just a shopping centre for every other club with no heart or junior system. We could find and develop 4 immortals that came through together, but they'd all be poached within 5 minute of one another - so I say it again, why bother?

Because you can't attract good players?

 

[nqboy]

There is and should genuine sorrow for raiders fans, between this and henry, as well as an injury list as long as you're arm, we've had a f**king rotten start to the year

Not to mention Outtamy's brain fart.

 

[Raider_69]

Not to mention Outtamy's brain fart.

aswell as Ryan Hinchcliffe requiring surgury for a broken thumb, which adds another injury for the next 6-8 weeks

Raiders V Tigers is a deadset casualty ward fight this week

 

[VictorTheViking]

Because you can't attract good players?

Why attract them when we can develop guys like Zillman and Carney locally (through the raiders junior program)

 

[no name]

So where was the 34 point deduction for breaching the salary cap?

The breach was found AFTER they won the comp. They can't really take points of them after the fact can they.

 

[raidersforme]

No Name

Here is a list from 2000 up to 06 can't find 07 yet

Salary cap breaches by NRL clubs and penalties incurred ($A):

Year Club Fine
2000 Knights $158,800
Warriors $100,000
Panthers $80,900
Bulldogs $50,000
Eels $40,000
Storm $24,300
Roosters $12,800
Sharks $6,890

2001 Cowboys $100,000
Storm $89,904
Broncos $84,157

2002 Bulldogs $500,000 + 37 competition points
Roosters $149,131
Knights $85,000
Storm $66,698
Wests Tigers $58,526
Broncos $57,533

2003 Storm $130,956
Panthers $50,000
Knights $40,000
Broncos $20,000
Rabbitohs $15,252
Warriors $15,000
Sharks $10,000
Panthers $10,000
Bulldogs $10,000

2004 Storm $120,000
Bulldogs $82,295
Dragons $32,286
Panthers $25,000
Roosters $25,000
Raiders $5,000
Sea Eagles $5,000

2006 Warriors $430,000 + four competition points

All clubs have gone over at some point and your club will too it's a fact of life, and they are audited at the end of year not start so the Premiers can go over and win. Unless there is a tip off to the nrl they wait till end of year.

 

[no name]

Get some brains into ya

Interesting argument

 

[skeepe]

Oh look, the Knights and Panthers were found to have cheated the cap the year they won the comp. How interesting. Can I expect similar attacks from you on those clubs?

 

[no name]

No Name

Here is a list from 2000 up to 06 can't find 07 yet

Salary cap breaches by NRL clubs and penalties incurred ($A):

Year Club Fine
2000 Knights $158,800
Warriors $100,000
Panthers $80,900
Bulldogs $50,000
Eels $40,000
Storm $24,300
Roosters $12,800
Sharks $6,890

2001 Cowboys $100,000
Storm $89,904
Broncos $84,157

2002 Bulldogs $500,000 + 37 competition points
Roosters $149,131
Knights $85,000
Storm $66,698
Wests Tigers $58,526
Broncos $57,533

2003 Storm $130,956
Panthers $50,000
Knights $40,000
Broncos $20,000
Rabbitohs $15,252
Warriors $15,000
Sharks $10,000
Panthers $10,000
Bulldogs $10,000

2004 Storm $120,000
Bulldogs $82,295
Dragons $32,286
Panthers $25,000
Roosters $25,000
Raiders $5,000
Sea Eagles $5,000

2006 Warriors $430,000 + four competition points

All clubs have gone over at some point and your club will too it's a fact of life, and they are audited at the end of year not start so the Premiers can go over and win. Unless there is a tip off to the nrl they wait till end of year.

I know alot of teams go over the cap.
I was making the point that the Raiders were the first team go substantially go over the cap. This also happened to be in the year they won the comp. Raiders fans have obviously forgotten these facts or trying to ignore them.