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Rumoured Signings 2014

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Kiwi

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:lol: Have you looked at your starting 17 recently?
I didn't say Griffin was getting it right. Remember this 17 beat you mob.

For the record I wouldn't have reed there. I would havd copely in centre with hoffman on the wing. Copely was goinv great at centre till f**k knuckle Griffin shunted him to the wing. We have the players but not the coach. Also I think very highly of your coach. I reckon swap coaches and you could probably swap teams on the ladder. Des uses tactics that play to his teams strengths, Griffin ...well not even god knows what Griffin is doing.
 
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Kevin Proctor, James Tedesco, Josh Mansour > Raiders according to Slothfield.
I thought Protector was staying at the Storm considering they let Hoffman go. Also Mansour = staying at Panthers. He won't leave Sydney, I'll tell you that much!
 

Kiwi

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Mansour and/or Tedesco to Canberra would be a big loss for rugby league.

All jokes aside, would much rather not see any team struggle like the Eels did and like the Knights and Raiders are right now, even though I can't stand any of those sides.
 

BunniesMan

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Tedesco to the Raiders?

I could understand the rumours of him going to Roosters or Bulldogs, teams that are winning and have good squads.

But Canberra?

What did they offer? 2 million a year?

Canberra have a severely limited squad. The Roosters and Dogs have top 4 quality squads. Even Easts have a limit to how much they can spend. And they're getting Fergy.

Canberra can and will outbid anyone.
 

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If, and that's a big IF, but if the raiders do end up with Korisau, Proctor, Mansaur and Tedesco (we wont, im tipping we'll shoot 0/4), we'd be a pretty decent side in 2015

especially if Cornish is even a decent NRL standard half

Lots of If's there but hopefully something to look forward too
 

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If, and that's a big IF, but if the raiders do end up with Korisau, Proctor, Mansaur and Tedesco (we wont, im tipping we'll shoot 0/4), we'd be a pretty decent side in 2015

especially if Cornish is even a decent NRL standard half

Lots of If's there but hopefully something to look forward too
You'd still have Ricky
 

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Im always reminded about something my father in law once told me about being a good captain in cricket. I think it probably rings pretty true in coaching too... he said "the easiest way to be a great captain, is to have a great team"

Lots of average and flat out bad coaches have had success in sports because their team is good. Stuart will be a much better coach when he's got a much better team. Those moves would make us a much better team
 

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If, and that's a big IF, but if the raiders do end up with Korisau, Proctor, Mansaur and Tedesco (we wont, im tipping we'll shoot 0/4), we'd be a pretty decent side in 2015

especially if Cornish is even a decent NRL standard half

Lots of If's there but hopefully something to look forward too

No. I think you'll get JT. Proctor and Mansour are maybes. Koro is a big no.
 

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Im always reminded about something my father in law once told me about being a good captain in cricket. I think it probably rings pretty true in coaching too... he said "the easiest way to be a great captain, is to have a great team"

Lots of average and flat out bad coaches have had success in sports because their team is good. Stuart will be a much better coach when he's got a much better team. Those moves would make us a much better team

Unlike Bozo, who you have described to a T, Sticky doesn't have a Fairy Godfather
 

nick87

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I dunno, he's apparently one of the worst coaches that has ever uttered a word, yet he's got one more premiership than 99% of coaches, so someone is looking out for him
 

Kiwi

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I dunno, he's apparently one of the worst coaches that has ever uttered a word, yet he's got one more premiership than 99% of coaches, so someone is looking out for him

So does Hagan. Both coaches walked into premiership teams in their first year, after that it went downhill fast for both coaches once they had to build teams themselves. Stuarts club coaching record started with a bang in 2002. After that it has been a speedy downhill slide for every team he has coached. The Raiders poor culture just helped speed that process up.
 
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I dunno, he's apparently one of the worst coaches that has ever uttered a word, yet he's got one more premiership than 99% of coaches, so someone is looking out for him

Bozo's rubber ducky was Arko and Sticky surfed off Muzza . . . which one are you talking about
 

nick87

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That's kind of the point though isn't it?
Hagan also made another GF and was beaten by cheats. Wayne Bennett is a master coach and can't get it done at Newcastle, because their squad is busted. Tim Sheens has won 4 grand finals. Do you think he won them with superior coaching, or do you think having Stuart-Daley-Clyde-Walters-Meninga-Farah and Benji before he turned shit played a pretty big role in those?

Is Toovey a super-star coach, or does he just have a super-star team? How about Bellemy? Do you reckon they win premierships without Foran, DCE, Slater, Smith, Cronk, etc?
How about McGuire, would he be the coach he is if he didnt have Inglis and Burgess?
Much better coach than Stuart, no premierships though.
They are good coaches sure, but do you reckon Bellemy coaching the Raiders this year would produce anymore W's? I certainly dont.

Playing talent has infinitely greater impact on success than coaching IMO. Hopefully next year the Raiders are are more talented playing group
 

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Lol Koro is as much of a maybe as any others

Playing fantastic footy and Souths have three great hookers.

Including one still under contract for next year. Unless they can get Luke to another club either Koro or McInness is out of there
 

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That's kind of the point though isn't it?
Hagan also made another GF and was beaten by cheats. Wayne Bennett is a master coach and can't get it done at Newcastle, because their squad is busted. Tim Sheens has won 4 grand finals. Do you think he won them with superior coaching, or do you think having Stuart-Daley-Clyde-Walters-Meninga-Farah and Benji before he turned shit played a pretty big role in those?

Is Toovey a super-star coach, or does he just have a super-star team? How about Bellemy? Do you reckon they win premierships without Foran, DCE, Slater, Smith, Cronk, etc?
How about McGuire, would he be the coach he is if he didnt have Inglis and Burgess?
Much better coach than Stuart, no premierships though.
They are good coaches sure, but do you reckon Bellemy coaching the Raiders this year would produce anymore W's? I certainly dont.

Playing talent has infinitely greater impact on success than coaching IMO. Hopefully next year the Raiders are are more talented playing group

Dude seriously have a look at all the premiership teams and few and far between don't have that big name player, some have a couple, some are lucky and have 4 or 5. They will always be there.

On Bennett and the Knights, he walked into a bigger rabble than he did at the Dragons, look what he did with the Dragons. Look at what happened the second Bennett left the Dragons, they slid downhill fast.

I'll reply some more tomorrow, gotta Skype with the wife and then head out. I get what your saying, but will reply in more detail tomorrow. have a good night.
 
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