Rumoured/Confirmed Signings and More Crap XIX

[Suitman]

Yes. He is head, shoulders and full torso above any other Wallabies candidate for starters. He is a very good player. Not that Hoppa isn't, but I think he's more of a centre and a fill-in fullback. Time will tell on that.

Folau is no longer a winger. He will play FB or Centre should he ever come back to league. Of course I'd obviously prefer Foran, but would also love to have Izzy.

Completely agree.

Suity

 

[not graham olling]

The Emperor gets involved, starts an internal war to prove points and we are where we are

The Election appeared to be heading towards a Sharp win, but points of order, I know more about this club than you do, I should still be running it, etc etc and you know who trying to Derail the incumbent. Be careful who you vote for when it does actually come around.

An ego maniac and power hungry ex CEO, hope not

Yep the Emperor who has no clothes wanting to get involved. I agree that you have to be careful who you vote for. Who can forget the scenes at the Leagues Club AGM where The Emperor and Spags were shaking hands, smiling and laughing at the end of the night. A cynic would say that it looked like that had got together to applaud their efforts.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Given the "war chest", and 3rd party deals. We might only be paying $500k to Folau on the cap which would be awesome. That's certainly worth it.

The NRL isn't chipping in to help one club over others, it is to help a player earn as much in the NRL as he is able to get elsewhere. So someone like Folau would still have to go to the highest bidding NRL club, probably on $700k+, with the NRL topping up the difference to keep him away from the rival code.

 

[hindy111]

Russel packer anyone? If fassao is out id chase him.Still available too.

 

[Twizzle]

The NRL isn't chipping in to help one club over others, it is to help a player earn as much in the NRL as he is able to get elsewhere. So someone like Folau would still have to go to the highest bidding NRL club, probably on $700k+, with the NRL topping up the difference to keep him away from the rival code.

They cant force him to go to a club that he doesn't want to go to, thats Beavis' job

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Russel packer anyone? If fassao is out id chase him.Still available too.

Nah we have enough middle forwards.

 

[Twizzle]

and ex cons

 

[not graham olling]

and ex cons

Agree

 

[emjaycee]

They cant force him to go to a club that he doesn't want to go to, thats Beavis' job

It's Beavis' job to force him to a club he doesn't want to go to? What a shit manager he is.

 

[spiderdan]

I really doubt Izzy has the ball playing abilities to play fullback in RL, something i think Hoppa does have in his game.

minicello doesn't have ball playing skills yet had a very successful career at fullback. just because hayne was a ball player doesn't mean every fullback needs to play that way to be successful.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

minicello doesn't have ball playing skills yet had a very successful career at fullback. just because hayne was a ball player doesn't mean every fullback needs to play that way to be successful.

Hayne never showed any ball skills early in his career either. Bit hard to tell if Hoppa has any ball skills until he is given some time at fullback - I reckon he will.

 

[lingard]

3rd party sponsors don't count towards the cap in the first place. That's why the Roosters, Bulldogs, and Broncos can field teams like they do. Because a lot of their player's salaries are made up of 3rd party deals.

If Hayne were to return for next year he could probably get $400k in 3rd party deals no problem.

This is the bit I don't understand. Considering that Parramatta has one of the biggest fan bases in the NRL, I don't see why we shouldn't be in a position to offer big third party deals in a similar vein to the Roosters, Broncos and Bulldogs. Why would there be any shortage of businesses prepared to be sponsors of one of the most popular sporting teams in NSW?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

This is the bit I don't understand. Considering that Parramatta has one of the biggest fan bases in the NRL, I don't see why we shouldn't be in a position to offer big third party deals in a similar vein to the Roosters, Broncos and Bulldogs. Why would there be any shortage of businesses prepared to be sponsors of one of the most popular sporting teams in NSW?

We didn't have business saavy people on our board previously. Whilst we still don't we've employed the "premiership club" which aims to bring in these people with money to top up the contracts. Plus the 3rd party agreements can't be guaranteed or put into the deals by the club.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

This is the bit I don't understand. Considering that Parramatta has one of the biggest fan bases in the NRL, I don't see why we shouldn't be in a position to offer big third party deals in a similar vein to the Roosters, Broncos and Bulldogs. Why would there be any shortage of businesses prepared to be sponsors of one of the most popular sporting teams in NSW?

We just don't have a network of rich/powerful supporters who can source these deals

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They cant force him to go to a club that he doesn't want to go to, thats Beavis' job

No but they're not going to tip in the difference between two offers just because he wants to play for the club with the lower offer. The top up money is to keep him in the NRL, not at one particular NRL club. If he's desperate to play for the Broncos even though they can only afford $200k when other clubs are offering $700k or more, the NRL surely won't tip in $1M to get him to Brisbane if they would only have to pay $500k to supplement the offer from the Roosters or Souths.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We didn't have business saavy people on our board previously. Whilst we still don't we've employed the "premiership club" which aims to bring in these people with money to top up the contracts. Plus the 3rd party agreements can't be guaranteed or put into the deals by the club.

That's right. It's not about sponsorship (which provides some business value). It's about wealthy fans paying out of their own pockets (or their businesses' pockets) to help their team win footy matches.

 

[Twizzle]

No but they're not going to tip in the difference between two offers just because he wants to play for the club with the lower offer. The top up money is to keep him in the NRL, not at one particular NRL club. If he's desperate to play for the Broncos even though they can only afford $200k when other clubs are offering $700k or more, the NRL surely won't tip in $1M to get him to Brisbane if they would only have to pay $500k to supplement the offer from the Roosters or Souths.

You're assuming he will go to the club who makes the highest offer. A lot do but not everyone does.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You're assuming he will go to the club who makes the highest offer..

No I'm not. I'm assuming the NRL won't help the club with the lowest offer by topping up the difference between their offer and the highest. If Folau wants to take less to play at one club over another the NRL shouldn't be helping him (or that club) by paying him more. The amount the NRL pays Folau centrally should be the same regardless of what the different clubs are offering. The same goes for Hayne or anyone else.

 

[Twizzle]

No I'm not. I'm assuming the NRL won't help the club with the lowest offer by topping up the difference between their offer and the highest. If Folau wants to take less to play at one club over another the NRL shouldn't be helping him (or that club) by paying him more. The amount the NRL pays Folau centrally should be the same regardless of what the different clubs are offering. The same goes for Hayne or anyone else.

In other words, you're assuming he will go to the club with the highest offer.

I expect the NRL will contribute a set mount irregardless of which club it applies to.

 

[carson]

You're assuming he will go to the club who makes the highest offer. A lot do but not everyone does.

A quick review of his career to date would suggest that it is a more than reasonable assumption...his loyalty is up there with $BW!!!