Parra Centres

[Obscene Assassin]

If we're looking at a better "team" Takairangi is the centre we partner with Semi imo. If we're talking who's the better centre Morgan is ahead of Takairangi. I think that Takairangi is a better defender though, so there's not much in it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Centres don't exist just to run either.

They should be doing a lot more running than passing - they are outside backs, not halves.

 

[Someone]

I don't disagree with that.

I have only stated it is handy to have a centre that can set up his outside man. However as you have stated it is not a necessity.

im not entirely sure we disagree on anything, you are just acting like the dominant dog of the yard and refuse to let other dogs, or this dog, bark.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I reckon the centre should take the most out of their opportunities, whether that be running or passing, like every player should. If you have a player that is average at both imo that's better than a player who excels at one but lacks significantly in the other.

 

[Joely01]

I don't disagree with that.

I have only stated it is handy to have a centre that can set up his outside man. However as you have stated it is not a necessity.

im not entirely sure we disagree on anything, you are just acting like the dominant dog of the yard and refuse to let other dogs, or this dog, bark.

Don't get sucked in.

Going back to your original point, I agree 100% on the Tonga being influential to the year Semi had last season. I said it at the time, if it wasn't for Tonga, Semi doesn't get as many tries at the start of the season.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't disagree with that.

I have only stated it is handy to have a centre that can set up his outside man. However as you have stated it is not a necessity.

im not entirely sure we disagree on anything, you are just acting like the dominant dog of the yard and refuse to let other dogs, or this dog, bark.

I wasn't even talking to you. I was responding to all the people (and there are so many) who think that the be-all and end-all of a centre is his ability to 'set up his winger'.

When I said "Do you criticise edge forwards because they don't set up the centre?" I meant "Do youse criticise..."

Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you but modern English is stuck without a plural of 'you'.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I said it at the time, if it wasn't for Tonga, Semi doesn't get as many tries at the start of the season.

Agreed 100%, and you could say the same for our right wingers who all had a solid strike rate in the try scoring department thanks to the brains and skills of Hopoate.

But is the object of the game to see whose wingers score the most tries?

 

[Eelementary]

I wasn't even talking to you. I was responding to all the people (and there are so many) who think that the be-all and end-all of a centre is his ability to 'set up his winger'.

When I said "Do you criticise edge forwards because they don't set up the centre?" I meant "Do youse criticise..."

Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you but modern English is stuck without a plural of 'you'.

:lol:

This post made my day.

 

[Joely01]

Agreed 100%, and you could say the same for our right wingers who all had a solid strike rate in the try scoring department thanks to the brains and skills of Hopoate.

But is the object of the game to see whose wingers score the most tries?

Well scoring tries do win you matches....

All the good sides of the last few years at least, have at least one good strike centre.

Yes a running game is good to have for a centre but personally I think creating tries and being as you call certain players "link players" to the winger is vital.

 

[Eelementary]

I think having good defenders at centre is vital, and that's where Morgan falls short for mine.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

I wasn't even talking to you. I was responding to all the people (and there are so many) who think that the be-all and end-all of a centre is his ability to 'set up his winger'.

When I said "Do you criticise edge forwards because they don't set up the centre?" I meant "Do youse criticise..."

Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you but modern English is stuck without a plural of 'you'.

Swap the vowels, centre the plural admonish the adjective and you get "criticise you'de do".

 

[The Engineers Room]

All those saying Vai Toutai ahead of Morgan obviously didn't watch the Wenty trial!

He is 1000x worse than Morgan.

Champion is first picked for sure, I don't know with the other centre.

 

[The Engineers Room]

Don't get sucked in.

Going back to your original point, I agree 100% on the Tonga being influential to the year Semi had last season. I said it at the time, if it wasn't for Tonga, Semi doesn't get as many tries at the start of the season.

Tonga was rubbish but sometimes he decided to just pass the ball and Semi found a way to score.

 

[Bazal]

Morgan and Champion. But to finish the year I'd say it would be more like Toutai and Crooks. Taka can play off the bench for mine, at least to begin with

 

[hindy111]

Radradra will get plenty of chances regardless of who the centre is. Centres don't exist to just pass to their winger.

Do you criticise edge forwards because they don't set up the centre?

No, but it helps having a secondrower with ball skills right?

There are two type of centres for mine-The big powerull guy who run over the top of you(hurrel) and the ones with footwork and skill who set up the winger(lyons)
For this reason I think toutai can maybe take on the direct style and if defense is ok he should be fine.Question is can he pass?

 

[T.S Quint]

No, but it helps having a secondrower with ball skills right?

There are two type of centres for mine-The big powerull guy who run over the top of you(hurrel) and the ones with footwork and skill who set up the winger(lyons)
For this reason I think toutai can maybe take on the direct style and if defense is ok he should be fine.Question is can he pass?

Well he can't catch. You would hope he'd be good at one of those.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Toutai should have shown flashes of class by now, but he hasn't. He's big and strong and a bit slow. You never know but I really doubt he'll ever be anything special, especially at centre.

 

[lingard]

I wasn't even talking to you. I was responding to all the people (and there are so many) who think that the be-all and end-all of a centre is his ability to 'set up his winger'.

When I said "Do you criticise edge forwards because they don't set up the centre?" I meant "Do youse criticise..."

Sorry if you thought I was having a go at you but modern English is stuck without a plural of 'you'.

'You' is the plural of 'you'. And I disagree with you. The centre is a very important position in rugby league. It has always been important for a centre to be a good defender (both in one-on-one tackling ability, and in reading the defence well). that has always been the case. But I think a centre's running game is less important than it used to be - simply because the opportunities aren't there anymore. Centres like Steve Rogers, Bob Fulton, Reg Gasnier, used to tear defences to shreds with incisive running. In fact, very few centres in the old days weren't at least fairly fast and able to make breaks. But in the modern game, where there is far more structure, and more predictability in the game (and where defences are generally better and faster), players like Hodges and Jennings are more the exception than the rule. How many clean breaks and long runs do you see from centres these days?
I think if you can do that, it's a real bonus, but because defences are faster and get up into the opposition backline more, offloading or passing to your inside or outside man is a more important skill for a centre to have. Unfortunately. I miss the old days when centres scored lots of long-range tries.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

No way should Morgan be one of our first choice centres.

This, why this guy hasn't been run out of town has me beat.

 

[lingard]

Also, I was speaking to my boss today about football matters. He's younger than me - thirty-eight. A Canberra fan. We were talking about Jarryd Hayne and his influence on the club. I mentioned Ken Thornett and how he had a similar influence. And you know what? He'd never even heard of Ken Thornett! I couldn't believe it! I was shocked! And I thought: this must be what it feels like to get old.
And then I thought, maybe one day some of you young blokes will be talking to a footy fan and you'll mention the name Jeff Robson, and they'll say, "Never heard of him".




No, probably not.