Manly formally withdraw offer to DCE

[betcats]

i've had a think about it, and what joe kelly has done with "pulling the deal from the table" is a good move, high risk, but they really don't have much to lose.

If they dont have much to lose how is it high risk?

 

[Craig Johnston]

If they dont have much to lose how is it high risk?

not much to lose in that i think they're odds on to lose both players anyway, high risk in that by ostricising them it could make them choose to stay but if it doesn't work, they'll damage team cohesion even further. it's a desperate ploy

 

[BunniesMan]

FMD you are an imbecile. if a club is good enough to be ultra competitive for 10 consecutive seasons than good luck to them. I am not sure what point you are trying to make above, are you suggesting the likes of souffs should get more leg ups than they already do from the NRL to be perpetually competitive because you think they are the most popular sporting club in the universe?

I didn't say anybody should get a leg up. But when it comes to simply wishing for dominoes to fall a certain way it would be more ideal IMO if Foran went to Parra and DCE went to the Dogs than both being at Manly.

 

[Mader45]

not much to lose in that i think they're odds on to lose both players anyway, high risk in that by ostricising them it could make them choose to stay but if it doesn't work, they'll damage team cohesion even further. it's a desperate ploy

The good old reverse psychology ploy. Desperate attempt after the kiss your ass constantly ploy. Still, i prefer the 'sign or opposing forwards will be advised to break your knees' ploy. But thats just me.

 

[Kiwi]

i've had a think about it, and what joe kelly has done with "pulling the deal from the table" is a good move, high risk, but they really don't have much to lose.

It's not really a good move when you consider they had DCE all but signed only for new management to f**k it all up.

 

[betcats]

Mick Ennis was giving it to them the other night about having them both off contract at the same time, I dont know the details their last contracts etc but I gotta agree, pretty poor management to allow the possibility of losing them both in the same year.

 

[God-King Dean]

Mick Ennis was giving it to them the other night about having them both off contract at the same time, I dont know the details their last contracts etc but I gotta agree, pretty poor management to allow the possibility of losing them both in the same year.

Disagree.

With both coming off at the same time, they could pick which would be the better deal/player; whereas if they came off contract at the same time, they have no option.
I suppose losing both of them could be possible, but seriously doubtful.

 

[betcats]

Disagree.

With both coming off at the same time, they could pick which would be the better deal/player; whereas if they came off contract at the same time, they have no option.
I suppose losing both of them could be possible, but seriously doubtful.

Good points, though I would argue staggering their contracts would give you best chance at keeping both with the least chance at losing both.

 

[Nice Beaver]

I do find it funny that he was all ready to sign before Christmas and when management changed they "didn't know" about the contract offer that was going to be signed ( yeah right like they wouldn't have known ) and now they expected him to meet a deadline on a less offer ( lets face it, if it was the same he would have signed by now ) after f**king him around, but it's all DCE fault. Poor negotiating tactics by Manly that look set to backfire, especially if they lose both players. I wonder if they'll be stupid enough to try the same tactic with Foran.

I think you'll find they have done it to make sure Foran is secure.

Regardless of your personal opinion of the club, they are not f*cking stupid. They have a plan here and are not doing this for the sake of it.

I like the chances of Foran re-signing now.

I also like the message this sends to that dickhead Orr - stop the games idiot.

 

[muzby]

 

[Nice Beaver]

Manly has had an incredible 10 consecutive seasons in the 8. 2 premierships. They've had an unparalled run in the salary cap era.

But what does their success do for the game? If a team is going to be that good that long in Sydney it shouldbe Souths or Dogs or Eels or Tigers or Dragons. These teams doing well raise the overall NRL attendance averages and ratings.

We need every team being competitive. But if a team is going to be dominant, some teams are better than others for the NRL.

:lol::lol::lol:

FMD. New levels of stupid on a daily basis.

F*ck your "gee Souffs or Dogs etc should be successful before another club"

How about they get their shit together? You don't "deserve" success because your inbred, buck toothed supporters turn up to watch them lose on a regular basis.

Manly deserve success just the same as the other 15 clubs do. They've done it better than anyone else for the past decade so kudos to them. Clearly it has been effective with other clubs now trying to buy our culture.

 

[natheel]

:lol::lol::lol:

FMD. New levels of stupid on a daily basis.

F*ck your "gee Souffs or Dogs etc should be successful before another club"

How about they get their shit together? You don't "deserve" success because your inbred, buck toothed supporters turn up to watch them lose on a regular basis.

Manly deserve success just the same as the other 15 clubs do. They've done it better than anyone else for the past decade so kudos to them. Clearly it has been effective with other clubs now trying to buy our culture.

And in ok with us going for manly players I'd be worried if we were picking up tiger players and leaving top players to be grabbed by other teams

 

[Kiwi]

Manly has had an incredible 10 consecutive seasons in the 8. 2 premierships. They've had an unparalled run in the salary cap era.

But what does their success do for the game? If a team is going to be that good that long in Sydney it shouldbe Souths or Dogs or Eels or Tigers or Dragons. These teams doing well raise the overall NRL attendance averages and ratings.

We need every team being competitive. But if a team is going to be dominant, some teams are better than others for the NRL.

What a load of horse shit. Next time you type this sort of dribble, get the nurse at whatever institute your are locked up in to read it first so she can slap you and make you start again. FMD what a drop kick.

 

[seaeagle sam]

I don't know how they f**ked it up. They offered $ in the millions and Dce kept shopping himself around (in which he's entitled to do). I just want want him to make a decision. Go or stay. But I also don't want my club paying a bazillion dollars out of cap to keep him.

 

[Card Shark]

Is that the Gold Coast hinterland?

 

[eagles4eva]

Was always going to be a tough ask to keep both... I prefer Foran, seems very much a team player... So can hopefully sign him...

I was more guttered to see G Stewart leave...

 

[undertaker]

It just goes to show you don't need a long neck to be a goose...sorry, I meant giraffe

 

[Nice Beaver]

Getting to the stage NB where Manly will be better off without DCE just as Parra is better off without Hayne, high maintenance is depressing . . . losing Foran is another thing altogether

I think he has gone too far down the road he is travelling to ever be accepted into the fold at Manly again. Of course that is from the outside looking in but it sure seems that it's reached that point.

Foran is on a knife's edge. Could go either way.....

I love this free trade stuff where blokes are jumping ship 12 months in advance! :roll:

 

[POPEYE]

I think he has gone too far down the road he is travelling to ever be accepted into the fold at Manly again. Of course that is from the outside looking in but it sure seems that it's reached that point.

Foran is on a knife's edge. Could go either way.....

I love this free trade stuff where blokes are jumping ship 12 months in advance! :roll:

Even if there is only a window available, it will just take talks into the black market, people will merely become clandestine and wait for the window to open. As I've said before, the great coaches will bench deserters, how good a coach does Mary think he is . . . love to see Merrin get fat sitting on the splinters

 

[Nice Beaver]

Even if there is only a window available, it will just take talks into the black market, people will merely become clandestine and wait for the window to open. As I've said before, the great coaches will bench deserters, how good a coach does Mary think he is . . . love to see Merrin get fat sitting on the splinters

Maybe Rick Stone is to be a great then - look what's happened to the 18 year old Australian rep!

I think it was easier in bygone years to take the hard stance with blokes jumping ship. But its just such a business now (for club and player) that benching a bloke who is leaving is not going to make sponsors happy nor the viewing public who TV stations pay billions to televise it.

I'd happily see them run around in park footy for a year, but in a corporate world, it aint gonna happen......much.