Rumoured and Confirmed Signings and even more Crap XXIII

[ash411]

You have a problem with Tits????

Yeah the media and NRL are big meanies who are just picking on our club for no reason, i'm sick of it, i will happily toe the party line because others i'm just a hater and not a true fan.

Sharp and the board are fantastic and doing a bang up job, you can't go wrong with being happy about everything. That is what i will do from now on, no opnions just happy happy happy. it's what the true fans do. I mean the glass half full approach is the way to go, why criticise when i can be happy about everything that happens at the club.............


Can someone pass me the unicorn milk????

So it was a compliment? cool. thanks man.

Awesome. I look forward to reading your positive posts in future.

yeah you get it by pulling on the long udder underneath the unicorn, takes a while, but it's delicious.

 

[hineyrulz]

So it was a compliment? cool. thanks man.

Awesome. I look forward to reading your positive posts in future.

yeah you get it by pulling on the long udder underneath the unicorn, takes a while, but it's delicious.

How does it mix with Vodka???? Might as well get pissed while i am being so happy

 

[ash411]

Sharp said on Sterlo that no TPA's had not been honoured in his time there

the ones that the media say haven't been paid would have been organised by Spags & co

I actually don't like that excuse.

Granted if Spag friendly companies that supplied TPA's to players have gone back on their deals, That sucks, but if they were organised by the club (previous regime or not, and whether they were "supposed" to or not), the Board of the Parramatta Eels as an entity is resposible for those TPA's and have to help secure replacement funding for those TPA's.

Saying "it was the guy before's fault" can't cut it.

Hopefully they are working to fix the issues instead of laying blame, I can't imagine they will just let their players get dudded and risk losing them, and the clubs reputation.

 

[ash411]

How does it mix with Vodka???? Might as well get pissed while i am being so happy

nicely.. you need to stir it a bit though, sometimes it can be chunky.

 

[hineyrulz]

I actually don't like that excuse.

Granted if Spag friendly companies that supplied TPA's to players have gone back on their deals, That sucks, but if they were organised by the club (previous regime or not, and whether they were "supposed" to or not), the Board of the Parramatta Eels as an entity is resposible for those TPA's and have to help secure replacement funding for those TPA's.

Saying "it was the guy before's fault" can't cut it.

Hopefully they are working to fix the issues instead of laying blame, I can't imagine they will just let their players get dudded and risk losing them, and the clubs reputation.

Agree with this, it was my point earlier in the thread that it has to be a worry that we don't seem to be able to get the TPA's of other clubs and even previous boards. We have plenty of marketable players at the club and it shouldn't be a problem or excuse.

 

[hineyrulz]

nicely.. you need to stir it a bit though, sometimes it can be chunky.

Mmmmmm might just add the vodka and leave out the unicorn juice.

 

[Noise]

Sharp said on Sterlo that no TPA's had not been honoured in his time there

the ones that the media say haven't been paid would have been organised by Spags & co

The current board blaming the previous board just for something different.

 

[ash411]

Agree with this, it was my point earlier in the thread that it has to be a worry that we don't seem to be able to get the TPA's of other clubs and even previous boards. We have plenty of marketable players at the club and it shouldn't be a problem or excuse.

Maybe the Board itself isn't exactly the issue, Maybe its who they're appointing to key administration positions that manage the team? If they hired a team of professionals (CEO, Business Manager, etc.), That are experienced in these kinds of matters (contract negotiations, sponsorships, bla bla) then they could do that, and the board focuses on long term strategy and direction, like they decide where they want to go, and then the "staff" figures out how to get there.

Ian't that what they're supposed to do anyways?

 

[hineyrulz]

Maybe the Board itself isn't exactly the issue, Maybe its who they're appointing to key administration positions that manage the team? If they hired a team of professionals (CEO, Business Manager, etc.), That are experienced in these kinds of matters (contract negotiations, sponsorships, bla bla) then they could do that, and the board focuses on long term strategy and direction, like they decide where they want to go, and then the "staff" figures out how to get there.

Ian't that what they're supposed to do anyways?

Sounds like the right way to go, but hiring a guy like Seward doesn't sound like thats what was happening. Who knows this might be the kick in the arse the club needs for a whole raft of changes to come in and make us more competitive??? Because until we can match the big boys in regards to TPA we will struggle to to remain competitive.

 

[ash411]

Sounds like the right way to go, but hiring a guy like Seward doesn't sound like thats what was happening. Who knows this might be the kick in the arse the club needs for a whole raft of changes to come in and make us more competitive??? Because until we can match the big boys in regards to TPA we will struggle to to remain competitive.

hopefully, yeah. The best idea would be to hire a corporate headhunter to find them an executive staff from successful companies probably outside of Rugby League. They would definitely have a fresh take on how to run it as it should, a business.

The argument that it would be soulless and without passion (I'm looking at you casper), that would come from the board, who would give the staff the direction and long term goals based on passion and soul and all that junk. Besides, guys from the corporate world might actually enjoy the challenge, The executives I've met in my career are kind of adrenaline junkies and (admittedly) a little wacko.. sounds perfect to me.

 

[Jake the snake]

I actually don't like that excuse.

Granted if Spag friendly companies that supplied TPA's to players have gone back on their deals, That sucks, but if they were organised by the club (previous regime or not, and whether they were "supposed" to or not), the Board of the Parramatta Eels as an entity is resposible for those TPA's and have to help secure replacement funding for those TPA's.

Saying "it was the guy before's fault" can't cut it.

Hopefully they are working to fix the issues instead of laying blame, I can't imagine they will just let their players get dudded and risk losing them, and the clubs reputation.

Exactly it doesn't cut it. They keep blaming everyone else
But themselves. Previous management had good contacts but they all
Went when the new board was elected over 2 years ago. They've had long enough now to either bring in their contacts or find some new ones. All we've had from this current mob is failed contracts, salary cap problems, releasing players before they complete contracts. It smells of backyard operators not knowing what they're doing.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

The current board hasn't once blamed the previous board about unpaid TPA's, in fact Sharp claims they have all been paid under him.

 

[Jodeci]

The current board blaming the previous board just for something different.

Interesting the TPA's is now an issue.

Player managers are in regular contact with club CEO's regarding any outstanding monies owed to their client.

When CEO's are brought in at any stage of the business, they are informed of any dealings or contractual arrangements made and ensure they are met and paid.

Do you think for a second that a player signs a 3 yr deal and at the end of their 3 years the manager has made zero contact throughout the 3yr deal then walks in to see the CEO and says "Oh remember 3 years ago when my client signed, well just letting you know we haven't been paid a cent of the $100k you promised us in TPA's?

ALL Player managers are in monthly discussions regarding this type of scenario.

If company X agrees to fund $40k towards a TPA and then pulls out due to financial restraints or any other reason, does the club then chase company X legally through court action or do they just walk away and we need to fit the $40k bill through another TPA?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I actually don't like that excuse.

Granted if Spag friendly companies that supplied TPA's to players have gone back on their deals, That sucks, but if they were organised by the club (previous regime or not, and whether they were "supposed" to or not), the Board of the Parramatta Eels as an entity is resposible for those TPA's and have to help secure replacement funding for those TPA's.

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There are a lot of 'ifs' there. The club cannot 'organise' those deals, so how can the current or subsequent Board be responsible for payment of the TPA's arising? I'm sure that clubs do put players in contact with third parties apparently willing to do a deal, but the club or the Board cannot assume 'responsibility' for them. If they do, the entire deal is assessable under the cap. If there were all of these additional willing TPs out there in the first place, why were they not already signed up with players years ago?

I agree that the Board should do whatever it can (without exposing the club to the risk of further sanctions) to help line players/TPAs up, but it's obviously not a simple issue finding replacement TPs.

 

[ash411]

Interesting the TPA's is now an issue.

Player managers are in regular contact with club CEO's regarding any outstanding monies owed to their client.

When CEO's are brought in at any stage of the business, they are informed of any dealings or contractual arrangements made and ensure they are met and paid.

Do you think for a second that a player signs a 3 yr deal and at the end of their 3 years the manager has made zero contact throughout the 3yr deal then walks in to see the CEO and says "Oh remember 3 years ago when my client signed, well just letting you know we haven't been paid a cent of the $100k you promised us in TPA's?

ALL Player managers are in monthly discussions regarding this type of scenario.

If company X agrees to fund $40k towards a TPA and then pulls out due to financial restraints or any other reason, does the club then chase company X legally through court action or do they just walk away and we need to fit the $40k bill through another TPA?

I would hope so, otherwise they are terrible managers...

I think its more that saying the TPA's that backed out were from the previous board is what is being referenced, kind of sounds like throwing the hands up and saying "there's nothing I can do".

I'm sure they would have made sure everyone was paid, and all this recent rabble about TPA's is media bluster. I'm sure there were probably issues with TPA's (media bluster often has a kernel of truth at the centre) But I'm sure those issues were resolved, or we would have heard about court battles by now, Managers don't get their commissions on money promised, they get it on money PAID. In other words, if the player doesn't actually receive money, neither does the manager.

So the managers aren't just chasing the players money, they're chasing their own.

 

[Jodeci]

I'm sure they would have made sure everyone was paid, and all this recent rabble about TPA's is media bluster. I'm sure there were probably issues with TPA's (media bluster often has a kernel of truth at the centre) But I'm sure those issues were resolved, or we would have heard about court battles by now,.

Exactly, if these monies were outstanding, there would of been court action by now or throughout season 2013 and 2014 we would of heard these stories if players were owed any TPA's and we didn't.

All it takes is one player manager picking up the phone to call any journo throughout those years. Simple as that.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Oh ok.. you win then..

Thin arguments are always revealed when you have to resort to name calling, geez, pick a better name that tithead, you may as well have said doody head. Child.

You see, the really funny thing, is that we are both on the same side of this argument, except you are so busy focusing on everything that's wrong, instead of trying to see the positives.

Am I saying bury your head in the sand? no. but think of it this way. The board could easily have told the NRL that the clause was ok and they wanted it that way, registered forans contract as is, and we would have been none the wiser, instead, they realise it was a crippling clause and took steps to fix it, at the risk of losing 2 big things, 1) the biggest signing we've had in a long time and 2) the support of the fans.

I call that a gutsy call. There was nothing illegal about the clause, the NRL would register it if we told them to, they called it to the boards attention cause it was weird and not a usual thing.

Just remember, the glass is half full, the current board have, what 2-3 years left, they aren't going anywhere (anyone who think they will quit is kidding themselves), and unless the cause major financial trouble at the club, they won't be forcibly outed either. as long as the PLC is making money, those who are able to step in and change the board won't do squat.

I agree with you though, they haven't had a great record so far, neither has anyone running the club for a long time, I also agree that they need people with much stronger business sense, but I don't see them lining up to take the job.

I dare you to respond to this post nicely, I dare you.

by the way, I've been on this forum since 2007, just didn't post much back then. But I read plenty...

It's great that many of us try to help Eels fans trapped in the mirror of their own making/projection but if they won't let go of their dark-shadow then there is no point arguing with them anymore because we'll only be having a stoush with their mirror.

They gave up taking full-responsibility for their projections believing their reflection is who they really are and thus the drama-queen continues having its say in spite of the overwhelming evidence that goes against everything going on in their fantasy mirror.

 

[Stagger eel]

Does anyone know why our chairman has not responded to calls by 2SM to be interviewed yesterday and today, apparently they made 7 attempts...

They've decided to chat to Ralene Castle instead..

 

[Casper The Ghost]

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Does anyone know why our chairman has not responded to calls by 2SM to be interviewed yesterday and today, apparently they made 7 attempts...

They've decided to chat to Ralene Castle instead..

Maybe she has better news to tell than he does ;-)