Rumoured and Confirmed Signings with added crap - XXVI

[Joshuatheeel]

Good clubs can make it happen. Tap Watmough on the shoulder, give him a defensive coaching gig spread over 3 years to absorb his lost income and release a player like Peats and/or Pauli to another club. Back end the deal and I'm sure the room will be there.

Hayne is the best player to ever play the game. Why we wouldn't have him back is beyond me.

Souths have Burgess and Inglis. Storm have the big 3. Don't start me with the Roosters, yet we can't afford Hayne and Foran? Give me a f**king break!! Who has more members than us besides the Broncos, Dragons and Souths? We are the sleeping giant of the game. We rate consistently high on television and Hayne is the biggest name in the game.

If he returns it is only with Parra. It would be The only option if I was running the Eels.

If Hayne was on $1 million under the cap, would we have a better squad with him or getting both a wrighton / Walker type player ?

I don't think it's anything to do we us not being able to afford Hayne, more that a decision could have been made around what is best for the squad if he doesn't return or he just doesn't want to come back.

Anyhow I agree Hayne is the greatest eel I have seen ( sterlo / kenny / Hindy next) and it would hurt seeing him at another club.

 

[Avenger]

If the NRL are fair dinkum Hayne only returns to Parra. They can get their head out of their own arse and allow every team to have one player earn whatever he wants. That way Hayne, SBW, Burgess, Thurston can be finally rewarded properly for playing the greatest game of all.

 

[El Diablo]

the NRL want him at the Roosters and are happy for him to be on their books for sweet FA

 

[Incorrect]

i'll take company line over your baseless speculation

What can I say? I thought the "Rumoured and Confirmed Signings with added crap" thread needed a bit more "added crap" so I obliged!



At the end of the day though I do not see Hayne playing for the club again... maybe not even NRL fullstop. But if he does, things are shaping up the way they were when SBW came back - it was the worst kept secret in the 2 years prior that he would be a Rooster and sure enough they made it happen. They very rarely miss their man...

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

If the NRL are fair dinkum Hayne only returns to Parra. They can get their head out of their own arse and allow every team to have one player earn whatever he wants. That way Hayne, SBW, Burgess, Thurston can be finally rewarded properly for playing the greatest game of all.

Hypothetically speaking, what if Hayne would prefer to play for a different team? Why should the NRL intervene (as long as all teams have a fair shot at signing him)?

Letting clubs have a cap-exempt player also goes against one of the two stated purposes of the cap (i.e. constraining expenditure). And, unless there are 16 superstars of similar value, it works against the balance of talent.

 

[Gronk]

Hypothetically speaking, what if Hayne would prefer to play for a different team? Why should the NRL intervene (as long as all teams have a fair shot at signing him)?

Letting clubs have a cap-exempt player also goes against one of the two stated purposes of the cap (i.e. constraining expenditure). And, unless there are 16 superstars of similar value, it works against the balance of talent.

Agree. It works for A-league cos there are a shit load of players who could qualify as a marquee player. Not in the NRL however.

 

[Forty20]

I would be very surprised if the club on any level, be it coach or board, were harbouring ill feelings on their end that would see us pass up on Jarryd.

Perhaps he does end up at Bondai but it won't be from a lack of an offer from the Eels.

 

[eels_fan]

Just received word and probably the strongest rumour I've heard in a while that Hayne will be turning out for the chooks next year - I'm sure the NRL will be pleased with themselves

If true, it puts Hayne below Jamie Lyon on the scum dog meter

 

[Avenger]

Agree. It works for A-league cos there are a shit load of players who could qualify as a marquee player. Not in the NRL however.

What bullshit. Marquee may be Blake Austin to Canberra but not to someone like the Roosters. Marquee is whatever the club assesses not armchair critics like you and I.

Are you trying to tell me that there isn't 16 players that could qualify realistically to be worth $1 million plus?

 

[Eelpout]

Good clubs can make it happen. Tap Watmough on the shoulder, give him a defensive coaching gig spread over 3 years to absorb his lost income and release a player like Peats and/or Pauli to another club. Back end the deal and I'm sure the room will be there.

Hayne is the best player to ever play the game. Why we wouldn't have him back is beyond me.

Souths have Burgess and Inglis. Storm have the big 3. Don't start me with the Roosters, yet we can't afford Hayne and Foran? Give me a f**king break!! Who has more members than us besides the Broncos, Dragons and Souths? We are the sleeping giant of the game. We rate consistently high on television and Hayne is the biggest name in the game.

If he returns it is only with Parra. It would be The only option if I was running the Eels.

Absolutely nailed it.

 

[Avenger]

Hayne, Burgess, Thurston, SBW, Foran, DCE. RTS, Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk, Tedesco, Isaac Luke, Blake Austin, Inglis, James Graham, Brett Morris, Ben Hunt, James Maloney are a few that come to mind. All can be construed as marquee depending on the club. Once some ageing players retire players like Valentine Holmes will be the new generation.

 

[eel01s]

Agreed. Great post Avenger.

 

[Incorrect]

Good clubs can make it happen. Tap Watmough on the shoulder, give him a defensive coaching gig spread over 3 years to absorb his lost income and release a player like Peats and/or Pauli to another club. Back end the deal and I'm sure the room will be there.

Hayne is the best player to ever play the game. Why we wouldn't have him back is beyond me.

Souths have Burgess and Inglis. Storm have the big 3. Don't start me with the Roosters, yet we can't afford Hayne and Foran? Give me a f**king break!! Who has more members than us besides the Broncos, Dragons and Souths? We are the sleeping giant of the game. We rate consistently high on television and Hayne is the biggest name in the game.

If he returns it is only with Parra. It would be The only option if I was running the Eels.

The difference is none of the Bunnies, Roosters or Storm have mis-managed their cap so publicly and incompetently in the last couple of years that they have had the NRL threaten to strip them of points before the next season even kicks off like we have.... paying for the sins of the past while other clubs keep their cap business and associated skulduggery well and truly out of the spotlight. Folks like us on forums everywhere suspect something amiss but at the end of the day, the other clubs are like F1 drivers fanging around the autobahn at will while we've still got our L plates on and can't go above 80km/h...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

'IF' Hayne signs with the Chooks, it would be no ones fault but the Parra Administrators. Well run clubs always land on their feet after setbacks and quickly. Shit admin are perennial also rans and make many excuses and so do the dumb arse supporters who shill for them with blind passion.

Why would it be our admins fault?

Well, think a about it, if say Fittler at his peak had done the same thing and left the Rooster to pursue a long held passionate dream, would uncle Nick not have kept regular contact and even maybe visited him at a game? Wouldn't he have been making sure that if it didn't work out, that Fittler would have no problem or shame in returning back to the Chooks no matter what? Wouldn't he have made sure he had third party deals ready to go if such a turn around started to look likely?

Oh yeah, it seems as though he has done just that, except for the visit to the game part and I only suspect that hasn't happened due to the fact that it would be way to bleeding obvious on what his intentions are and Hayne isn't a former Rooster YET, as would have been the case if it were Fittler instead.

Plus, if our admin weren't so weak, they would never have lanced Bill Moss's plan to create a third party sponsor club that would have blitzed all others. Instead we have an admin that fears big end of town players and just makes token statements that we would be 'Very interested in Hayne should he wish to come back'.

Well HELL YEAH! But what have you done, if anything, to ensure that he will come back if he returned to the NRL? We all seem to know what the chooks are doing.

The way I see it is if Hayne does come back to the Eels, it would not be due to any great planning or business savvy skills that our admin have, but solely due to Hayne's own loyalty to his childhood club and mates. But a guy can only be so loyal, eventually common sense kicks in and you choose the better horse so to speak.

F**k I hate my club sometimes.

Land on our feet? We've swapped Hayne for Foran plus enough change for at least another first grader. We've won out of this transaction.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Hayne, Burgess, Thurston, SBW, Foran, DCE. RTS, Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk, Tedesco, Isaac Luke, Blake Austin, Inglis, James Graham, Brett Morris, Ben Hunt, James Maloney are a few that come to mind. All can be construed as marquee depending on the club. Once some ageing players retire players like Valentine Holmes will be the new generation.

You'd pay all of those blokes the same amount?

You'd pay, for example, Blake Austin the same as Hayne?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Um Hayne was only contracted to us for 2015. So if we said no, then he would have left in October 2015 instead of 2014 plus think that we're a bunch of pricks.

I don't buy that a "savvy" operator would have managed the Hayne situation any different than how we did.

The Eel for life thing could never have been ratified in writing I heard Paul Kent say, as it would have put our cap in a unimaginable spin for the next X years whilst ever we had an option over his services.

And for the same reason that cashed up soccer clubs allow players to leave mid-contract. It's not because they need the transfer fee; it's because they don't want to be seen as a club that stops players from taking other opportunities. That hurts their ability to recruit other players.

If you want to keep players (and sign new ones) you need to keep them happy. Sometimes that means letting them go elsewhere, especially when a salary cap is involved. We're well rid of Hayne. It's sick how some 'fans' would side with him over the club. It was the same with Hopoate.

 

[Avenger]

You'd pay all of those blokes the same amount?

You'd pay, for example, Blake Austin the same as Hayne?

To some clubs Austin will be better value to them than Hayne. There will always be the title of the best. In football Messi and Ronaldo are considered the best yet Barcelona and Real Madrid are not always the best teams. How many titles did Del Piero win for Sydney FC again?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Good clubs can make it happen. Tap Watmough on the shoulder, give him a defensive coaching gig spread over 3 years to absorb his lost income and release a player like Peats and/or Pauli to another club. Back end the deal and I'm sure the room will be there.

Hayne is the best player to ever play the game. Why we wouldn't have him back is beyond me.

Souths have Burgess and Inglis. Storm have the big 3. Don't start me with the Roosters, yet we can't afford Hayne and Foran? Give me a f**king break!! Who has more members than us besides the Broncos, Dragons and Souths? We are the sleeping giant of the game. We rate consistently high on television and Hayne is the biggest name in the game.

If he returns it is only with Parra. It would be The only option if I was running the Eels.

We might have loads of fans but that doesn't translate to corporate support. Why would big companies want to be associated with a club controlled by leagues club members?

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

To some clubs Austin will be better value to them than Hayne. There will always be the title of the best. In football Messi and Ronaldo are considered the best yet Barcelona and Real Madrid are not always the best teams. How many titles did Del Piero win for Sydney FC again?

The truly elite (the top 3 - 6 players) will be found permanently at the same clubs under your plan. Which is fine, as long as people understand that is what is going to happen.

I don't understand the football analogy. The fact that the best player in an unregulated market isn't always on the winning team doesn't have anything obviously to do with the salary cap. That just shows that there's more to winning than the quality of your best player.

 

[Avenger]

We might have loads of fans but that doesn't translate to corporate support. Why would big companies want to be associated with a club controlled by leagues club members?

Corporate support is proportionate to crowds and ratings isn't it? Watch the support rise next year when we are back in the 8 and we have a state of the art boutique stadium in 3 years.