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Lauitiiti

butchmcdick

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IT seems impossible to believe now, but when Ali Lauitiiti left the Warriors in 2004 then chief executive Mick Watson instructed a staff member to escort him off the premises.

Lauitiiti, who has made an improbable return to the club this year and retains hopes of playing at NRL level again, has never spoken in detail before about his surprise exit from his hometown club.

But 12 years on he has finally revealed the bizarre circumstances behind his departure, which was probably the beginning of the end of Watson's reign.

Lauitiiti enjoyed a sharp rise after making his debut in 1998. By 2002, he was regarded as the most exciting forward in the game, with a prodigious offloading ability and incredible footwork and power. At times he was unstoppable, labelled the Michael Jordan of league by the Australian media during the Warriors' run to the 2002 grand final.

The following season was also successful, with the team desperately close to another grand final (they lost 28-20 to eventual premiers Penrith in the preliminary final).

However, things began to unravel in 2004. They had won just one of their first six matches when Watson called Lauitiiti into his office.

"I didn't really know where the meeting was going," recalled Lauitiiti. "There were all sorts of stories and analogies being talked about."

Watson then asked the 24-year-old to list his priorities in life. On a whiteboard, Lauitiiti wrote family and religion at the top, with the Warriors underneath.

"He wasn't happy with that," Lauitiiti said. "I said things I probably shouldn't have said. I didn't say anything nasty or anything, but I didn't respond the way they wanted me to.

There's something about Manly and, at this rate, it's going to be another frustrating season for the Warriors.

"But you can't really change a person. League was always going to be important for me, because it was my job. But it was never going to take away my family and church. [That] was a big part for quite a few of the boys."

In the book Warrior Nation, Watson outlined his rationale.

"I told him that if he couldn't show me he wanted to be at the club, then we would look at other options," said Watson. "He offered me nothing. When an athlete who is paid among the top three in the club says, 'I don't really care that much', I don't think time would have made any difference."

Lauitiiti accepts he wasn't playing well at the time, and had already had a few meetings with Watson, But this one was the last.

"He just told me to leave and I had to be escorted off the premises," said Lauitiiti. "One of the workers came and stood by the door while I grabbed my things. He said, 'I'll walk you to your car'."

It's an astonishing scenario, especially for a player who had played 115 games for the club. His team-mates were shocked.

"It was a decision that was rushed," said former halfback Stacey Jones. "Ali was made a scapegoat in a team that wasn't performing. He had a skill level far superior to anyone else for a big guy and could have had five or six more years for the Warriors. That was the most disappointing thing for everyone. But Ali went quietly. He could have made a few noises but that shows his character."

Lauitiiti has no regrets - "It was hard at the time but also a blessing in disguise. I needed to change" - but Watson probably does. The Warriors went into free-fall that season, as coach Daniel Anderson resigned and the team finished equal bottom of the ladder. They didn't really recover until 2007.

Lauitiiti is enjoying his second spell at the club, even if he is no longer a household name.

"I'm pretty much no one to the kids these days, it was so long ago," laughed Lauitiiti, who has been turning out for the Warriors' reserve grade side. "But from people my age and a bit older there is lots of 'welcome back' and 'it's good to have you back'. That's nice."

If he plays first-grade this year, he would be the oldest player in the competition, although Lauitiiti is biding his time.

"I need to earn my stripes. I'd like to play my part at some stage but just got to take it day by day."

http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/why-lauitiiti-was-escorted-away-warriors/2991240/

Came across this in my a local paper

Apologies if it's already been posted elsewhere

f**king lol at Watson
 

Warriorsoul

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Watson forced Ali and Vinnie Anderson out under trumped up reasons to cover his Salary Cap violations from both Price and Wiki signing. He never expected both to sign and when they did Watson realised this would blow out the cap by heaps. So he made up some crap about lack of commitment from both players and forced them to leave.

Irony being we still breached the cap, but by the time it got found out Watson was gone. He was a pr1ck
 

Rich102

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Ali was hard done by. And Monty Betham put the boot into him as well.
I have no time for Betham now.
 

SpaceMonkey

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I don't think Ali being forced out had anything to do with the Price and Wiki signings- he was gone well before they happened. Watson was just a prick who wanted a scapegoat.
The article also fails to mention that Ali sat out the whole 2003 season after having a bone cyst removed from his arm, he was still working his way back into match fitness when he got shafted.
 

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The article also fails to mention that Ali sat out the whole 2003 season after having a bone cyst removed from his arm, he was still working his way back into match fitness when he got shafted.

Yeah this is true. He didn't miss the whole of 2003 though, he came back late in the season, played through the finals series, played for the Kiwis and was pretty good albeit understandably not at his best (and he was coming off the bench as, iirc, Swann/Guttenbeil/Faumuina had established themselves as the backrow for the year).

He wasn't even that bad in the first few rounds of 2004 either. He scored a classic Lauiti'iti solo try from close range at Brookvale, I may be mistaken but I suspect it was his last game for us. I think it was a case of him being a scapegoat for our bad start to the season and frustration that he hadn't been "the old Ali" for over 12 months at that point (because of injury).

In retrospect I think things really started going to shit in 2003, which was in reality a very patchy season for us, and the fact that we hit a hot run of form coming into the finals papered over the cracks.
 

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Yeah this is true. He didn't miss the whole of 2003 though, he came back late in the season, played through the finals series, played for the Kiwis and was pretty good albeit understandably not at his best (and he was coming off the bench as, iirc, Swann/Guttenbeil/Faumuina had established themselves as the backrow for the year).

He wasn't even that bad in the first few rounds of 2004 either. He scored a classic Lauiti'iti solo try from close range at Brookvale, I may be mistaken but I suspect it was his last game for us. I think it was a case of him being a scapegoat for our bad start to the season and frustration that he hadn't been "the old Ali" for over 12 months at that point (because of injury).

In retrospect I think things really started going to shit in 2003, which was in reality a very patchy season for us, and the fact that we hit a hot run of form coming into the finals papered over the cracks.

Yeah you're right of course, it's a while back now and memories are hazy, especially considering the amount of chemicals I was ingesting on the weekends back then, haha.
Not so sure on your assessment of 2003 though, I think we were still genuine contenders at that point, though our attack had become a bit one-dimensional with an over-reliance on Jones bombing to Meli and Faafili's wings.
 

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Yeah this is true. He didn't miss the whole of 2003 though, he came back late in the season, played through the finals series, played for the Kiwis and was pretty good albeit understandably not at his best (and he was coming off the bench as, iirc, Swann/Guttenbeil/Faumuina had established themselves as the backrow for the year).

He wasn't even that bad in the first few rounds of 2004 either. He scored a classic Lauiti'iti solo try from close range at Brookvale, I may be mistaken but I suspect it was his last game for us. I think it was a case of him being a scapegoat for our bad start to the season and frustration that he hadn't been "the old Ali" for over 12 months at that point (because of injury).

In retrospect I think things really started going to shit in 2003, which was in reality a very patchy season for us, and the fact that we hit a hot run of form coming into the finals papered over the cracks.

Was that the game where Lauaki played really well too? Perhaps we thought we had Lauititi's replacement in him?
 

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Was that the game where Lauaki played really well too? Perhaps we thought we had Lauititi's replacement in him?

Yep same game, he got a double. I was at that game, he absolutely bullied the Manly forwards, shame he never played at that level before or since.
 

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Yep same game, he got a double. I was at that game, he absolutely bullied the Manly forwards, shame he never played at that level before or since.
Did the same thing for Wigan.

Tore some poor hapless side apart.

One game wonder for them too.
 

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Ali was hard done by. And Monty Betham put the boot into him as well.
I have no time for Betham now.

The irony being Monty finished his career getting booed at home games and out of the Warriors jersey.

I never had time for Betham, there was a guy who played only for himself.

This Ali debacle was the beginning of the end for the Warriors for a long time.
Cleary had to work very hard to re-engineer a team.

It was a terrible loss, our management destroyed an NRL superstar career.
After 02-03 we were absolutely primed for titles.
 

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Was that the game where Lauaki played really well too? Perhaps we thought we had Lauititi's replacement in him?

Epalahame? He goes back that far? Geez...

@SpaceMonkey, Hame carved up the Roosters later in that epic tie across the ditch.
But that was probably literally his only two good games.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Epalahame? He goes back that far? Geez...

@SpaceMonkey, Hame carved up the Roosters later in that epic tie across the ditch.
But that was probably literally his only two good games.

I was at that one too, don't remember him starring but I was sitting further from the action and probably just got lost in the general excitement of it all. What a game that was, I remember walking out and shaking hands with Chooks fans left right and centre, for once we all seemed to believe a draw was justly deserved.
 
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Yep same game, he got a double. I was at that game, he absolutely bullied the Manly forwards, shame he never played at that level before or since.

Semantics given he played nigh on no good games after that, but he was incredible v the Roosters in the 31-all game in 07
 

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Because of Mick Watson's God complex, we lost out on a ton of entertainment in losing Ali. What a disrespectful way to end the club career of a player that helped to make that short Warriors era so magic. P*sses me off big-time.
 

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Because of Mick Watson's God complex, we lost out on a ton of entertainment in losing Ali. What a disrespectful way to end the club career of a player that helped to make that short Warriors era so magic. P*sses me off big-time.

Yep, I didn't like Watson for a variety of reasons, but the Ali debacle was the straw that finally broke the camel's back. He was just an arrogant bastard who had no thought for anyone else's welfare.
 
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