Madge Contract status

[Rabbits20]

Yeah at Norths

 

[Rsag85]

Yeah at Norths

No we Should use him like we did with Peats off the bench to cover the forwards and sometimes hooker if need be with injuries, the kid had the talent but not yet at first grade as a starting 80min hooker.

 

[southsport]

Dump Cam.

That is all for now thanks.

White hookers matter!

 

[Rabbit toes]

Hearing that Madge is blaming the bad form this year on Rusty pre season camp

Kinda like what I said a few weeks back in some other thread. That kind of bullshit would divide any tight knit group

 

[Travitoh]

Unless we become a genuine premiership threat next season, I'd keep Cam at 9 next season. I believe that he's got the potential to become a better player than anyone who is available to sign

 

[southsport]

Kinda like what I said a few weeks back in some other thread. That kind of bullshit would divide any tight knit group

Rusty has always been a loose canon, let's hope he learned a lesson from it. On last nights news Keary was asked about Madge's relationship with the playing group and he said that Madge just has to deal with it so there must be some truth to the rumours.

Unless we become a genuine premiership threat next season, I'd keep Cam at 9 next season. I believe that he's got the potential to become a better player than anyone who is available to sign

It's a tall order to become a premiership threat from where we are today but we should be heading in the right direction.

 

[Rsag85]

Kinda like what I said a few weeks back in some other thread. That kind of bullshit would divide any tight knit group

A good coach would work that stuff out.

Easy to blame the camp if the rumours are true but why not have a look in the mirror Madge why not have a look at your playing style? It's not working the game has changed.

 

[DiegoNT]

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...ul.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Interesting article

 

[southsport]

Well is it time for Madge to go?

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I'd say, yes.

 

[southsport]

I'd say, yes.

Go now? Caretaker coach for remainder?

 

[Rabbits20]

Well is it time for Madge to go?

I don't know.

What a mess Southsport.

I don't think nothing would fix that mob. They've a lot of issues.

 

[souths_reborn]

Well is it time for Madge to go?

Generally I'm not a proponent of sacking unless it is for the better but I think today's performance has almost made Maguire's position untenable. There is no way, given the roster and playing talent we have, that this team should be getting beaten by that margin by that opponent. It is completely unacceptable and I think it warrants a vote of no confidence from everyone concerned with the club. What gets me is that the club has practically signed Maguire's death warrant by sacking all of his backroom staff; why not just get rid of him as well and start afresh? There is no logic in retaining him and only half backing him; we are better off in brining in someone new! I'd have no problems if we brought in someone like Geoff Toovey - he has got a wonderful record at Manly, is passionate, has coached top quality players and probably could do a better job than our current coach. I'm not too sure about Cleary though; he had moderate success at Warriors but he did nothing really at the Panthers and more alarming was the fact that he allowed them to play a completely unstructured style of football; it was like he wasn't coaching them at all! In saying that, surely there is someone out there that can do better? Suggestions anyone?

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Go now? Caretaker coach for remainder?

No. Finish the season. But as noted, the team has just stood on the precipice and taken their first step in to the abyss.

I'm hoping they've already made a short list of replacements.

 

[southsport]

No. Finish the season. But as noted, the team has just stood on the precipice and taken their first step in to the abyss.

I'm hoping they've already made a short list of replacements.

Word is that he has been asked to resign but insists on staying until the end of 2017 as per contract.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

In fact, the whole full support of the board announced by Richo is probably the most telling, and possibly most damning comment made. Buying time to manoeuvre.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Word is that he has been asked to resign but insists on staying until the end of 2017 as per contract.

Then a decision needs to be made. And made in the best interests of the club /fans, members and sponsors.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I personally think that after that semi vs sharks last year he should have been sacked.

 

[southsport]

I personally think that after that semi vs sharks last year he should have been sacked.

This season is a continuation of what happened at the end of 2015.

 

[souths_reborn]

Any coach needs enough good players. The main problem is there are not enough big forwards in the squad, which is what I said at the start of the season. We may need a better dummy half too. Madge's style needs plenty of big forwards in the squad, and a dummy half who can take advantage of the momentum that those forwards create.

Given that we are in a competition with a salary cap and that all the teams are pretty close together in terms of playing talent, it is often the coaches that prove to be the difference between the top teams and the bottom teams. Hence, the argument that Madge needs top quality players to succeed is a moot point because he is never going to have a squad full of star players to choose from; he is in the same position as every other NRL coach! Moreover, the team he inherited was arguably the same group of players that underachieved under John Lang, so if they were so good then why didn't they win the comp under his tutelage?

In saying that, you have hit the nail on the head when you mention the dummy half position. The only thing that I will correct you on is that you have got it the other way around; our big forwards need a hooker who can make metres from dummy half so that they can capitalise on defences that are constantly retreating. A hooker of that style is the key ingredient if you are going to play a power-style game otherwise it is too easy for opposition forwards to move up and close our big forwards down. Isaac Luke was perfect because he was so powerful out of dummy half that not only would he catch markers out but he would also suck in a couple of other defenders in the line. Hence, the likes of Burgess' and Ben Teo had an excellent platform to rumble forward from. That is one of the reason why we have struggled this season - because we don't regularly play a hooker who offers that style of play. In a sense, the work of Luke inflated the abilities of the Burgess' and even Teo. Don't get me wrong those guys were excellent in their own right but it was the work of Isaac Luke that allowed them to play the way they did. I think the whole idea that the Burgess' and Teo were unstoppable and could win games single handedly is a myth.