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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Poupou Escobar

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Think what you like bart. But if you don't like nationalism stay away from the public sector. You might find your opportunities curtailed.
 

phantom eel

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Thanks for the tip... did you happen to come to your views for the need to cleanse the populations' loyalty through fear of your opportunities being curtailed?
 

Poupou Escobar

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I'm not questioning either. I'm the one clarifying to those questioning why we have rules. There is nothing to question. The jury's out, and that's why dual citizens face 'discrimination' where they can't run for senate, the poor underclass bastards. I hope they're qualified enough to find a job elsewhere in the economy. It's tough out there.

If they want to avoid it they can follow the f**king rules. Former PMs Abbott and Gillard managed it despite being born overseas. Dastyari and Wong cared enough to know what was required of them.

And if you think I give a shit about the loyalties of any given Australian resident, you should know (because you have Facebook) that I'm on to my second foreign spouse. She is not even a dual citizen, and she's open about where her loyalties lie.
 

phantom eel

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I'm not questioning either. I'm the one clarifying to those questioning why we have rules. There is nothing to question.
Saying that people should follow the rules (like those that "cared" enough) is not the same as clarifying why those rules are there (to those questioning the need for said rules.

If you're not casting aspersions regarding the loyalties of people who are dual citizens (or not even), then I conclude you're simply talking to yourself.

And if you think I give a shit about the loyalties of any given Australian resident, you should know (because you have Facebook) that I'm on to my second foreign spouse.
I never even knew you were on facebook... I thought you were a resistor?
 
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I have zero sympathy for people who sign a declaration stating that they are eligible for election and can't be arsed checking that that statement is true. It's not like you have only 5 minutes to decide whether you want to run for parliament or not, and it's not as if these people are short of legal or procedural advice.
 
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I have zero sympathy for people who sign a declaration stating that they are eligible for election and can't be arsed checking that that statement is true. It's not like you have only 5 minutes to decide whether you want to run for parliament or not, and it's not as if these people are short of legal or procedural advice.
Do we really believe they didn't know? I'm certain that if I was a citizen of another country I'd know. How would it never have been mentioned, or occurred to you? Especially if someone asks.
 

Gary Gutful

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I have zero sympathy for people who sign a declaration stating that they are eligible for election and can't be arsed checking that that statement is true. It's not like you have only 5 minutes to decide whether you want to run for parliament or not, and it's not as if these people are short of legal or procedural advice.
This. Rules aside, I struggle to have any respect for someone who is a lazy, careless merkin.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If you're not casting aspersions regarding the loyalties of people who are dual citizens (or not even), then I conclude you're simply talking to yourself.
I'm definitely casting aspersions. I'm just not questioning. As I said, if you belong to two places you don't belong to one, do you? That's fine. You can still be a productive and well rewarded citizen of whichever country you choose to live in.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Do we really believe they didn't know? I'm certain that if I was a citizen of another country I'd know. How would it never have been mentioned, or occurred to you? Especially if someone asks.
You can definitely not know. Some shitty countries suffering brain drain automatically confer citizenship on the grandchildren of citizens and never tell them. Plenty of countries do it for the children of citizens, though in most cases an application needs to be made.
 
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You can definitely not know. Some shitty countries suffering brain drain automatically confer citizenship on the grandchildren of citizens and never tell them. Plenty of countries do it for the children of citizens, though in most cases an application needs to be made.
I didn't know that but is that what we're dealing with here?
 

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