To be fair on Turner we don't really know what role Madge wanted him to play. Maybe he was there more for the defensive side of the game.
I remember an article about Dave Tyrell where his dad was telling him to run the ball more and Dave was only doing what Madge had instructed.
Yeah sorry, but that's some straight up bullshit from Dave Tyrrell's Dad to excuse his son's shitty performances. No coach is telling their prop not to take hit ups.
Tyrrell had no issues with springing to life to take hit ups once we got into the opposition half. He was just never going to be any good as a front rower.
Only moved to the forwards after he got compartment syndrome and lost all of his pace. Never had the power to get over the advantage line when hitting the ball up.
For a while he could defend okay, but after injuring his knees that went too and he started letting in more post contact metres than any forward in the comp.
I've met him a couple of times and he seems like a genuinely good dude, but his sub par performances were on him, not the coach.