Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[Tronald Crump]

Cleary to play under his Dad http://m.nrl.com/clearys-desire-to-coach-son-nathan/tabid/10874/newsid/115368/default.aspx

Of course he will play under his father. Once Ivan gets rissoled from the Tigers job in 2019 he will become the next NSW Blues coach in 2020. Father & Son can reunite then.

 

[mxlegend99]

Can a Gus Gould Disappreciation column be opened so that I don't have to read all the BS
written in this forum!!

Block any people who say things you dont like.

You can all then have a circle jerk praising Gus and his perfect recruitment and retention.

 

[Exsilium]

Couldn’t we just had “Gus” to the Griffin thread?

I personally don’t have too many issues with the recruitment under Griffin. I figure that’s mainly due to the depth we’ve been able to enjoy because of it.

If we were a club who didn’t produce such regular talent we would have little to complain about if we regularly bought and moved players on. Inevitably we have signed players who gave us usable depth, competition within the playing group and remained under the cap doing so. Often these players filled a gap where our talent stocks couldn’t or weren’t ready too.

Plenty on mxlegends list were purely depth and opportunistic. Some we will lose because of the cap and most we will lose if we don’t need them.

We have a very complex situation where we have utilised our junior base and will start having to fight to keep them. 2017 was a wonderful period for us to see what the likes of RCG, Edwards, Cleary, Katia and Blake could do. We can pencil them in comfortably now, provided they all stay/sign.

Our club is very dynamic and always has been. Stability is evidenced by our ability to make the finals regularly and compete.

I think next year will silence a lot of haters.

Here’s hoping.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Can a Gus Gould Disappreciation column be opened so that I don't have to read all the BS
written in this forum!!

Suck it up, precious flower. Don't let the bad men get you down.

 

[OldPanther]

Couldn’t we just had “Gus” to the Griffin thread?

I personally don’t have too many issues with the recruitment under Griffin. I figure that’s mainly due to the depth we’ve been able to enjoy because of it.

If we were a club who didn’t produce such regular talent we would have little to complain about if we regularly bought and moved players on. Inevitably we have signed players who gave us usable depth, competition within the playing group and remained under the cap doing so. Often these players filled a gap where our talent stocks couldn’t or weren’t ready too.

Plenty on mxlegends list were purely depth and opportunistic. Some we will lose because of the cap and most we will lose if we don’t need them.

We have a very complex situation where we have utilised our junior base and will start having to fight to keep them. 2017 was a wonderful period for us to see what the likes of RCG, Edwards, Cleary, Katia and Blake could do. We can pencil them in comfortably now, provided they all stay/sign.

Our club is very dynamic and always has been. Stability is evidenced by our ability to make the finals regularly and compete.

I think next year will silence a lot of haters.

Here’s hoping.

The Griffin thread has it's place because of his coaching. The Gus discussion is about player signings etc. So makes sense to be here.

People here aren't "haters" they clearly love the club or wouldn't be here. You can criticise something you care about and continue to care about it.

When we discipline our kids we don't throw them out and get a new one. We don't need to change clubs and we can say negative things about it while caring about it.

I really do hope next year is a great year and we can all enjoy it.

 

[unKwn]

on a side note have you guys seen the new jerseys

 

[OldPanther]

on a side note have you guys seen the new jerseys

Yeah I posted a thread for it.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Moylan can want out. But Gus had all the power and it was up to him to negotiate his release.

Gus knew all along how that situation would play our. Our CEO said it was 50/50 long before Gus denied it.

Moylan never said anything in the media. Not one way or the other. So atleast unlike Gus, he never lied to us.



You have a funny definition of local. These players may have made their debut for us. But coming from Perth(Blake), NZ (CHN and JFH) is not local.

I would consider us to be a huge part of their development. But not local juniors.



We arent building a team around anyone.

We had 2 quality 5/8ths. Lost both withing 6 months
We had 2 quality hookers. Lost both within a year of each other.

All our big money has been thrown at imports. Cartwright is now the highest paid local boy and his career has been f**ked around. Cleary is the logical player to build around and he has one eye on the door already... Gus sacked his father. His father wants to coach him.. i think his dad has the advantage there.

If you want to believe Gus is perfect at his job no argument will convince you otherwise. Likewise no amount of his lies will convince me that he's making all the right decisions now.

He should have left before sacking Cleary. Its been more bad than good decisions since IMO.

I’m not a massive Gould lover, I hate his commentry and he annoys me regularly.

If you could present me with a legitimate arguement or reason, I’d happily agree with you.

But at this stage, I don’t agree with what you are saying.

 

[Kilkenny]

Block any people who say things you dont like.

You can all then have a circle jerk praising Gus and his perfect recruitment and retention.

When the new Gold Coast Titans coach publicly thanks Gus Gould and praises the way he is running the club in his radio interviews is he just being diplomatic or is he lying too? The interviews I listened to he soundly 100% genuine in his praise for our GM and in the direction our club his heading. I assume you would have to acknowledge he is in a far better position to judge than you, or anyone else on here for that matter.

 

[Exsilium]

The Griffin thread has it's place because of his coaching. The Gus discussion is about player signings etc. So makes sense to be here.

People here aren't "haters" they clearly love the club or wouldn't be here. You can criticise something you care about and continue to care about it.

When we discipline our kids we don't throw them out and get a new one. We don't need to change clubs and we can say negative things about it while caring about it.

I really do hope next year is a great year and we can all enjoy it.

Firstly, I do not buy into the whole "find a new club" notion. I personally think thats a cop out and never mentioned it to begin with. My use of the term "haters" is generalising those who genuinely go out of their way to have an opinion that is overly negative.

I am very critical of the regime at times but there is a distinct difference between having an opinion and entering into constructive debates and the whole "this is f**ked" scenario.

After all these years, especially coming from the old dedicated forums (EG: Panther Pride), some people will never be happy and can the club at every turn. I was one of those guys but my tune changed when we started becoming a more structured club with realistic goals, increased levels of professionalism and player talent. It would be great if people focused on the positives and see where we are now overall.

 

[herbert henry1908]

James Maloney has already bought a house in Penrith

Says all the right things here

 

[Kilkenny]

James Maloney has already bought a house in Penrith

Says all the right things here

Herbert, on his money it’s probably his third or fourth house just the one he will happen to live in while he is with us. The others will now become investment properties. How nice it would be to have the income stream of the top players.

 

[OldPanther]

Herbert, on his money it’s probably his third or fourth house just the one he will happen to live in while he is with us. The others will now become investment properties. How nice it would be to have the income stream of the top players.

Indeed it'd be great. You could retire on the houses alone if your smart.

 

[Buzzard Breath]

James Maloney inked but Penrith’s biggest NRL deal to come with Nathan Cleary off-contract in 2019

JAMES Maloney has secured his pay day.
A rich deal with Penrith worth around $2.4 million sees him leave Cronulla and complete the Panthers’ recruitment drive.

They believe they’ve completed their premiership puzzle by adding the two time premiership winner to the spine.

But the work isn’t over for Phil Gould.

In fact, it’s ramping up.

The clock is ticking to re-sign their most important puzzle piece and Gould has 50 weeks to do it.

While they have a steady head in the halves with the arrival of Maloney, the veteran is 32 next June.
Nathan Cleary is the future and just 20.

He’s in no hurry to re-sign. Why would he be? His price tag is rising by the week.

As of November 1 next season, Cleary hits the open market.

He’ll be the most sought after half in the game with the likes of Te Maire Martin, Corey Norman, Luke Brooks, Shaun Johnson and Mitchell Moses also off-contract at the end of 2019.

It was just a few months ago the Panthers were attempting to extend Cleary for a further five years on a deal worth $600,000-a-season.

If the Gold Coast are paying Ashley Taylor more than $1 million-a-season, what’s Cleary worth?

The answer is a lot more than $3 million over five seasons.

Being touted as NSW’s next Origin halfback, Cleary’s future is a major headache for the Panthers.
It also doesn’t help when Nathan’s father, former Panthers turned Wests Tigers coach Ivan, makes no bones of his desire to sign his son.

“We’d like to play together. It’s just a question of timing really,” Cleary Snr told NRL.com recently.

“He’s still got two years to go at the Panthers and I think that’s good for him. He’s not in a hurry to decide that, but we both realise that this situation is a pretty unique opportunity.”

While the Panthers have time on their side to get a deal struck with Cleary, they have some more pressing matters.

Their fullback, Dylan Edwards, is unsigned beyond next season, as is Test winger Josh Mansour.

Back-up half Tyrone May, who is recovering from an ACL injury, is also off-contract.

What the Panthers do with their roster over the next 12 months could prove crucial.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...9/news-story/4423263583a9cfe990f8bf64bf9b4ba5

 

[Buzzard Breath]

No official statement from the club on Maloney coming yet.
It should be sorted very soon.

 

[OldPanther]

No official statement from the club on Maloney coming yet.
It should be sorted very soon.

Looking forward to it.

 

[Buzzard Breath]

Just on Cleary an interesting interview here for anyone that hasn't seen it. Done last week

He claims he is not ready for origin yet, but the 1 minute mark is where it gets interesting on Griffin.

He backs the decision to re-sign Griffin as coach as the right call. He likes working with him and his assistants, and he admires Griffin's toughness to make people mentally strong.

Link
https://20four.com.au/video-library/series/nathan-cleary-exit-interview/33#1



Some hope for us when we try to re-sign him. At least he doesn't hate the coach.

 

[franklin2323]

Just on Cleary an interesting interview here for anyone that hasn't seen it. Done last week

He claims he is not ready for origin yet, but the 1 minute mark is where it gets interesting on Griffin.

He backs the decision to re-sign Griffin as coach as the right call. He likes working with him and his assistants, and he admires Griffin's toughness to make people mentally strong.

Link
https://20four.com.au/video-library/series/nathan-cleary-exit-interview/33#1



Some hope for us when we try to re-sign him. At least he doesn't hate the coach.

No player will leave while they are happy and settled. We will move who we have to keep him

 

[OldPanther]

No player will leave while they are happy and settled. We will move who we have to keep him

I've never agreed with anything more. The club will do everything to keep him. I half suspect it's why Moylan is gone and I don't think Maloney finishes his contract.

 

[Tronald Crump]

I've never agreed with anything more. The club will do everything to keep him. I half suspect it's why Moylan is gone and I don't think Maloney finishes his contract.

I hope Tamou doesn't finishes his deal. His last year is 2020 the exact year of Cleary's hopeful new deal starts.
A big whack of money there that could be better used.