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strider

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Mansour – 17 games, 5 tries, 81% tackle success rate (86 tackles), 17 runs for 167 m (6.3 tb) – 9.8 m per run

Auva’a – 16 games, 7 tries, 82% tackle success rate (160 tackles), 12 runs for 113m (2.1 tb) – 9.4 m per run
I find the number of tackles difference remarkable ... both wingers with same number of games ... did auvaa play centre much?

Twice the tackles for our winger ... maybe cos teams had to go wide the get past us, but they just strolled through the middle against the pussy cats???
 
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Interesting it's only for another year, is BA unsure if he is the "future"? Or is Alvaro not happy with the offer and is backing himself to be worth more in a year ?

Most of our definite top 17 players have signed 2 or 3 year contracts over the last few years.

Could be trying to spread the signings out, too, so that they don't all come off at the same time again.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Mansour was also coming off a knee reco. They reckon it takes 18 months after a knee reco to get back to your best so that makes his stats even more impressive.

In summary, i would pay double for Mansour over Auvua'a
I would too but I reckon Auva’a has more improvement in him as a winger. We'll probably see it this year. I’d say he matches Mansour physically.
 

Joshuatheeel

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"The Sharks are leading the way to sign one of the game's most promising backrower's in Marata Niukore.

Currently at the Eels, Niukore - who is 188cm and weighs 102kg - is considered by the Cronulla recruitment staff as the man to fill the void of Luke Lewis, when he retires, possibly as early as the end of this year.

A former Junior Kiwi, Niukore is ready for the NRL but is stuck behind a plethora of big name backrowers at the Eels including Manu Ma'u, Tepai Moeroa, Brad Takairangi, Kenny Edwards, Tony Williams and Beau Scott. "

http://www.nospam47.com/au/league/n...ook-anthony-siebold/7z09pek88u6d194s09e00rfs4
 

Glenneel

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Mansour was also coming off a knee reco. They reckon it takes 18 months after a knee reco to get back to your best so that makes his stats even more impressive.

In summary, i would pay double for Mansour over Auvua'a
Actually I think we will be if rumour true.
 

Poupou Escobar

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"The Sharks are leading the way to sign one of the game's most promising backrower's in Marata Niukore.

Currently at the Eels, Niukore - who is 188cm and weighs 102kg - is considered by the Cronulla recruitment staff as the man to fill the void of Luke Lewis, when he retires, possibly as early as the end of this year.
Smart recruiting if true. And with four edge forwards contracted beyond this year we can't sign/re-sign any more edge forwards who aren't backups. We couldn't offer first grade opportunity and by extension, first grade money.
 

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"The Sharks are leading the way to sign one of the game's most promising backrower's in Marata Niukore.

Currently at the Eels, Niukore - who is 188cm and weighs 102kg - is considered by the Cronulla recruitment staff as the man to fill the void of Luke Lewis, when he retires, possibly as early as the end of this year.

A former Junior Kiwi, Niukore is ready for the NRL but is stuck behind a plethora of big name backrowers at the Eels including Manu Ma'u, Tepai Moeroa, Brad Takairangi, Kenny Edwards, Tony Williams and Beau Scott. "

http://www.nospam47.com/au/league/n...ook-anthony-siebold/7z09pek88u6d194s09e00rfs4
Big decision to be made on Niukore. He was consistently the best forward in our ISP Cup team last year and Arthur obviously sees him as first grade material given his inclusion in 19 and 21 man squads named last year. By the end of season 2018 I would expect him to be ahead in the queue from some of those players the article mentions, namely Williams, Scott and maybe Kenny if his non selection for round 1 is any indication ... Would much rather jettison a T-Rex than lose Niukore probably on similar coin too...
 

Basil Brush

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Big decision to be made on Niukore. He was consistently the best forward in our ISP Cup team last year and Arthur obviously sees him as first grade material given his inclusion in 19 and 21 man squads named last year. By the end of season 2018 I would expect him to be ahead in the queue from some of those players the article mentions, namely Williams, Scott and maybe Kenny if his non selection for round 1 is any indication ... Would much rather jettison a T-Rex than lose Niukore probably on similar coin too...
I have a feeling Beau Scott will retire at the end of his season as he is off contract.

We only offered Williams a 1 year deal.

Hence with both Scott and Williams off contract, i reckon we will do everything to keep Niukore. It prob all depends on money and opportunities offered.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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The thing is how many edge forwards can you fit into your 17, and how many on top 17 money should you have in your 30 man squad? I suggest the answer to those two questions should be the same.
 

Twizzle

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A former Junior Kiwi, Niukore is ready for the NRL but is stuck behind a plethora of big name backrowers at the Eels including Manu Ma'u, Tepai Moeroa, Brad Takairangi, Kenny Edwards, Tony Williams and Beau Scott. "

not sure that they are all big name back rowers, by next year he possibly overtake the likes of Taka, T Rex, Kenny and Scott may be gone

BA will sort him out
 

84 Baby

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The thing is how many edge forwards can you fit into your 17, and how many on top 17 money should you have in your 30 man squad? I suggest the answer to those two questions should be the same.
Stuart used to try and fit a few hundred into his top 17
 

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https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/03/09...atta-eels-teammates-in-infamous-fitness-slog/

Parra prop Alvaro's pace shocks teammates
Dan Walsh
Fri 9 Mar 2018, 02:59 PM
Jarryd Hayne generated all the headlines out of the now infamous five-kilometre pre-season fitness trial endured by Brad Arthur's Parramatta Eels.

But it was unassuming front-rower Daniel Alvaro who truly deserved them, beating home every one of his teammates in a display of endurance by a man of his size.

Alvaro, all 108kg and 190cm of him, has been handed a starting spot and a one-year extension this week, just reward for a summer slog that has him in sublime shape to kick off the 2018 Telstra Premiership.

The 24-year-old forward put in it all on show at Soldier's Beach in late January, when Arthur and his teenage son Matt joined the entire squad in a five-kilometre time trial up and down the Central Coast sand dunes before hitting the back streets to nearby Norah Head and back.

Alvaro was first across the line, beating home the entire Eels backline, his 43-year-old coach and of course, the last-placed Hayne.

"It was good to finish it," Alvaro laughed when asked about his surprising fitness feat, and whether he was still reminding his teammates about it.

"It's tough we do sand dunes, hill runs and then a long road run. I was lucky that Gutho (uber-fit outside back Clint Gutherson) didn't run in it because he would have smoked me… but it was good.

"There was a little bit (of sledging) when I got across the line. I spayed a few blokes who deserved it but most of them are alright."

Alvaro will clock up his 50th first-grade game in Sunday's western Sydney showdown with the Penrith Panthers, which on Friday was confirmed as the first sell-out at the foot of the mountains since the local rivals clashed in 2014.

In what is forecast to be uncomfortable 31-degree heat out west, Alvaro will line up across from an all-international middle contingent of James Tamou, Reagan-Campbell Gillard and Trent Merrin.

After missing one game last year the young prop has cleaned up his diet and secured his future to boot, with his re-signing until the end of 2019 the third in three days along with extensions for Nathan Brown (2021) and Will Smith (2020).

His combination with Brown also means the Eels boast an unlikely blond-haired and blue-eyed Italian connection in the middle.

Despite answering to the nickname "Polar", as in the big white bears of the Arctic circle, Alvaro represented Italy in last year's World Cup alongside Brown and boasts a proud Mediterranean heritage.

"People are pretty surprised when I tell them," Alvaro said.

"They look at me as if I'm a fool but my granddad on my dad's side was born in southern Italy and came out here when he was about 18.

There was a little bit (of sledging) when I got across the line. I spayed a few blokes who deserved it but most of them are alright.

"So he's an Australian citizen but very much a full, proud Italian too."

And despite Hayne's well-documented struggles in the sun and sand over summer, Alvaro will count running out alongside him this weekend as a career highlight given he spent his younger days admiring Parramatta's prodigal son from afar.

"I've never played with him before, he was a freak growing up and I remember watching him when I was in high school, " Alvaro said of Hayne.

"I didn't think I would ever get to play with him so it's something special for me.

"I did pre-season in his last year (before Hayne's switch to NFL) and then he left when I started cracking grade.

"He's been really good. He's ripped into everything and he's had a really good attitude and hopefully he'll have a really good year."
 
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