Sharks cap superthread - latest: NRL clears Flanagan to assistant coach from 2020

[King hit]

I guess there would be a lot of suicides amongst Newcastle followers....

At least the Knights supporters have been turning up and showing great loyalty through the toughest of times. They deserve nothing but respect.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

At least the Knights supporters have been turning up and showing great loyalty through the toughest of times. They deserve nothing but respect.

To their credit, they're one of the very few in NSW that do. Rorters, Souffs, Manly, Canterbury and Parra? Horrendous.

 

[El Diablo]

So now in the past 10 years we have Melbourne, Parra (twice), Manly, Canterbury and Cronulla all done for cheating.

Between this and NSW being incapable of drawing a decent crowd, is there anything you merkins aren't failing Rugby League at?

Canterbury was in 2002 you peanut

 

[King hit]

Seriously why the f**k does he even need to bring up f**king states in a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with states in any way shape or form.

 

[Storms Light Fire]

On behalf of the Melbourne Storm and our fans, I claim back OUR 2007 and 2009 premiership titles, now that it has been proven that just about every other team in the NRL have been compliant salary cap cheats over the last 10 years.

this is a great day for the Melbourne Storm as everyone else has been proven to have cheated to win their premierships as well. So either strip every single team over the last 10 years; or let every single premiership winner stand.

Don't be hypocrites. EVERYONE CHEATED.

We claim back our premierships.

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

On behalf of the Melbourne Storm and our fans, I claim back OUR 2007 and 2008 premiership titles, now that it has been proven that just about every other team in the NRL have been compliant salary cap cheats over the last 10 years.

this is a great day for the Melbourne Storm as everyone else has been proven to have cheated to win their premierships as well. So either strip every single team over the last 10 years; or let every single premiership winner stand.

Don't be hypocrites. EVERYONE CHEATED.

We claim back our premierships.

The word you're looking for is complicit. Compliant would be the opposite of your point lol

 

[GongPanther]

I was joking that Gus will breech the salary cap and then youd be f**ked for 5 years.
Didnt know that joke was so unexpected that you couldnt connect those 2 dots but okay.

Gus' 5 year plan in developing a club,and trying to compare it with breaching the salary cap simply doesn't make sense. Only in your parallel universe could those totally separate issues be intertwined,but O.K.

 

[Storms Light Fire]

complicit, yes you are correct. Thank You.

Seeing the Manly Eel Roosters Sharks fans try and defend their salary cap rorting over the years since then on social media is hilarious.

The very same people who were baying for blood in 2010, appalled by the systematic cheating, are now clambering over one another to defend it. Almost all of them are now trying to say, "This is way different to the Storm in 2010, we were under the cap, we just didn't record our TPAs player housing arrangements correctly self reported, so all good".

Huh??? That is exactly the same you disingenuous people. Not reporting all TPAs to the NRL, organising a number of TPAs, using existing club sponsors, guaranteeing TPA payments = All illegal TPA deals. If it is illegal, it gets included in your Salary Cap - THE SAME AS US!

 

[Storms Light Fire]

So, current state of Sharks rorting...

- Self reported a $50K illegal payment made to a player in 2015.
- NRL collected server/evidence to look into it further.
- At least $250K (so far) in suspect payments made to players outside the cap in 2017 found. Still investigating.
- Payments were made to a club official and then passed on to players. MASSIVE deception.

My take - No chance in hell they were clean in 2016. Cap rorting doesn't magically stop for 12 months. It ramps up. Putting that aside for a moment, the illegal payments made in 2015 helped them keep an illegal team for the 2016 season, no matter how you slice it... They should be immediately stripped on the 2016 title.or the Melbourne Storm have their 2007 and 2009 titles reinstated.

and although Todd Greenberg said they were under this year; that doesn't mean they haven't made illegal payments under the table or have TPA payments outstanding.


you can't have it both ways. Hypocrites.

and lets name who the player is- Its Ben Barba.

 

[GongPanther]

Sharps have made the front and back page! View attachment 22858


I love a good pun

Those my friend,are quotes one comes out with after 15 schooners at the old journalists club at 4 am.

 

[Storms Light Fire]

Now, I’m not a historian – and technically anything that happened even a second ago is in the past, so therefore part of history – but I am a pedant, so please, indulge me this question: are we really going to let a potential breach that occurred last season be termed a “historical issue”?

By referring to the discrepancies as “historical” – which Cronulla did twice in their 120-word statement – the club was aiming to minimise the impact these issues have on the present.

And they have been successful in this endeavour, with the NRL seemingly comfortable allowing the Sharks to play finals footy, because they’re cap compliant this year.

But the salary cap can’t be treated as a year-at-a-time proposition.

While we hear about players getting x dollars over y seasons, these are rarely flat annual salaries, and it’s where all the talk of front- and back-ended deals come in.

A player might take significantly less in the first year of their contract, because that’s when the club is experiencing cap pressure, but then they’ll get a balloon payment in the final year to make up for that first-season shortfall.

As such, when you’re in a competition that has strict rules over how much financial recompense an entire squad can receive, exceeding that amount gives your club a significant advantage the others don’t get, which helps you recruit and retain quality players.

And when players sign contracts that last multiple seasons, that advantage can last for a number of years, even if you only went over the limit once (or, as the case may be, twice).

Yet, if the Sharks are found to have been doing this in two of the last three completed seasons, the NRL is apparently willing to let it go as far as this season is concerned, because it didn’t happen this year.

It is just a bunch of hypocrite acting hypocritically.

As I sad, I claim back the 2007 and 2009 premiership for the Melbourne Storm

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

On behalf of the Melbourne Storm and our fans, I claim back OUR 2007 and 2009 premiership titles, now that it has been proven that just about every other team in the NRL have been compliant salary cap cheats over the last 10 years.

this is a great day for the Melbourne Storm as everyone else has been proven to have cheated to win their premierships as well. So either strip every single team over the last 10 years; or let every single premiership winner stand.

Don't be hypocrites. EVERYONE CHEATED.

We claim back our premierships.

That's stinky bait.

Come back when you have better stuff

 

[Cumberland Throw]

f**k me greed just has no bounds..

The only was this stops is the players band together.. and just say enough enoughs ..

Stop taking dodgy cash ..

They are all on good cash .. when you are offered something dodgy knock it back

 

[GongPanther]

Time to turn the porch light back on?

Use those two upward light beams they shone in place of the twin towers in N.Y.

 

[GongPanther]

Why the hell do we always hear about salary cap breaches 3 years after they happen?
Who cares. It’s water under the bridge. All that matters are teams are compliant this year.
My pay clerk can tell me on a Monday morning what the wages were last week!

It’s shouldnt be that hard.

I can show them how to set up a spreadsheet if they would like to keep track of it. Easy.

Like make sure to have two different networks,one for yourself,and one for the NRL?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

I am not going to go through 16 pages of posts but has this been mentioned?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-20/sharks-accused-of-secret-financial-dealings/4900742

 

[GongPanther]

Well, rabs20 painting itself into a corner, as always. If souffs get done for salary cap breaches, here's a simulation of rabs20:

With the Benny Hill music playing backwards.

 

[GongPanther]

$500k below the cap??

That's seems hard to believe

Seems a bit low with the talent on hand.I mean,I bet every club could be that much in the black. Who reported this,the Sharks or DT?

 

[GongPanther]

Barry Russell must be some sort of of forensic accountant to find an anomaly with a TPA deal done years ago after only being in the job a few months.

Maybe the NRL should hire him? Can't be any worse than that that Eastern Suburbs flog who failed to uncover any cheating on his watch.

Ian Schubert?

 

[Diesel]

Should the NRL be the ones responsible for all payments made to players? TPA’s must be registered by the NRL first and if anyone is caught receiving payment illegally, the club is automatically stripped of X points for the current season and the following one?