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When do we call time?

Gary Gutful

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Robinson won three Minor Premierships, one Premiership before that and one Minor Premiership and a Top 4 finish since. BA has made the Top 4 once and never won a finals game that entire time. To compare the two is ludicrous.
To compare the two and not acknowledge the difference between the squads that they both coached is more ridiculous.
 

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A question for everyone on here and you can be the first to respond, Avenger. There's not a person anywhere who can pinpoint why we are having a train wreck of a season. There's a bunch or reasons put forward by plenty who know more about the game than I, and I'm certainly not going to brush over any of those opinions again. My question is a simple one. Why, in your opinion, has BA lost the dressing room?
You wont get an answer cos no one on here has any f**kin idea why

That not to say he should or shouldnt go, just that no one here knows shit other than they are hurting cos their team went plop
 

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He is stale and seems bereft of ideas.

That said, I think some people are just hoping that a new coach will suddenly jolt our team into something considerably better. Not sure it is that easy. Our coaching is definitely a problem but the problems at our club run much deeper.

A lot of nuffies on here seem to think they know how to coach better than BA, and most of them are either sparkies, butchers, uber drivers or jewellers. I'm not defending BA. He needs to change the culture real quick (if he's staying), but he needs all the support from those above, around and under him if he's going to see out his tenure. It's a long off-season, plenty of time to sharpen the daggers.......
 

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He is stale and seems bereft of ideas.

That said, I think some people are just hoping that a new coach will suddenly jolt our team into something considerably better. Not sure it is that easy. Our coaching is definitely a problem but the problems at our club run much deeper.
You reckon they will sack him?
 

Gary Gutful

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You reckon they will sack him?
Possibly. Will depend how loudly the fans bitch and moan and whether the club can attract anyone else.

I'm not close enough to the club to know what the merkins are thinking but I take any "BA's job is safe" comments with a grain of salt...
 

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Possibly. Will depend how loudly the fans bitch and moan and whether the club can attract anyone else.

I'm not close enough to the club to know what the merkins are thinking but I take any "BA's job is safe" comments with a grain of salt...
He was good for us and without the doubt the best we have had since Brian Smith. I stand by that. However, something has happened that not many would have predicted. The fall has been colossal and after 5 years he just seems clueless and the players are not responding.
 

Gary Gutful

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He was good for us and without the doubt the best we have had since Brian Smith. I stand by that. However, something has happened that not many would have predicted. The fall has been colossal and after 5 years he just seems clueless and the players are not responding.
He was a rock during the salary cap shit.

RL is a funny game. Teams can go in and out of form very quickly and often for reasons that are difficult to pin point.

It always amazes me how people on the periphery are so black and white about something they know so little about.
 

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Was that the year Pearce missed first 12 games and JWH was also out and then when back they realy started looking good?

2 players ??
So like us not having gutho or Hayne on the field together for the first 10 weeks or so?

Then us losing our best 2 attacking edge forwards in the first 10 weeks or so?

Anyhow they are just excuses and agree we should have gone a lot better and this year was a f**ken disaster!! But just making the point all coaches have disaster years, just like the Roosters did too!!

And while I am a BA fan, if we don’t improve massively in the first 10 or so weeks next year, his time is over and we are recruiting a new coach!!
 

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2 players ??
So like us not having gutho or Hayne on the field together for the first 10 weeks or so?

Then us losing our best 2 attacking edge forwards in the first 10 weeks or so?

Anyhow they are just excuses and agree we should have gone a lot better and this year was a f**ken disaster!! But just making the point all coaches have disaster years, just like the Roosters did too!!

And while I am a BA fan, if we don’t improve massively in the first 10 or so weeks next year, his time is over and we are recruiting a new coach!!

Do you expect the current squad to improve massively in the first 10 weeks next season?
 

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He is stale and seems bereft of ideas.

That said, I think some people are just hoping that a new coach will suddenly jolt our team into something considerably better. Not sure it is that easy. Our coaching is definitely a problem but the problems at our club run much deeper.

Drama queen.

Injuries, bad luck and average coach is why we are last.
If had No injuries and some luck you can finish top 4 and then possibly win it with average coach.
Add a good coach and even with some bad luck and injuries you may sneak into finals.
 

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2 players ??
So like us not having gutho or Hayne on the field together for the first 10 weeks or so?

Then us losing our best 2 attacking edge forwards in the first 10 weeks or so?

Anyhow they are just excuses and agree we should have gone a lot better and this year was a f**ken disaster!! But just making the point all coaches have disaster years, just like the Roosters did too!!

And while I am a BA fan, if we don’t improve massively in the first 10 or so weeks next year, his time is over and we are recruiting a new coach!!


I am sure the Rooster had others also out along with those 2.
Point is they improved. We never did, just become worse.
 

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I am sure the Rooster had others also out along with those 2.
Point is they improved. We never did, just become worse.

6 wins versus our 5?? And they improved?

We also improved in the later part of the year until the cowboys game when our forward injuries got the better of us.
 

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He was a rock during the salary cap shit.

RL is a funny game. Teams can go in and out of form very quickly and often for reasons that are difficult to pin point.

It always amazes me how people on the periphery are so black and white about something they know so little about.

Like I said 100 x had we no injuries and some luck BA keeps job. But we have seen how BA performed when things didnt go his way. Wasn't able to improve them. In other words he would be fine if everything goes our way. And chances are in 2019 we will have more luck, players in better form and less injuries and BA can coach again.
The good coaches seem to be able to come up with a plan B. In 2009 the first 14 or so games we where diabolical. What DA did with that team to change the style and attitude was magic. People want to say it was all Hayne. Thats bullshit. We began to offload and generate 2nd phase play. Sometimes it takes a bad time to see what a coach is capable of.

Do I have faith in BA. NO but of the other 15 coaches there is only a few I would trust. Even Seibold is fresh. Once other teams work out how too play Souths he will have a harder ride. Lets see if he is the next super coach then. Just the nature of the sport. From EPL to NFL. Sacking a coach is common.
 

Gary Gutful

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Drama queen.

Injuries, bad luck and average coach is why we are last.
If had No injuries and some luck you can finish top 4 and then possibly win it with average coach.
Add a good coach and even with some bad luck and injuries you may sneak into finals.
You just said the same thing I did in a different way.
 

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You just said the same thing I did in a different way.

I never said the issues run deep. I dont think they do. Regaurdless who is our coach with squad we can make finals. A good coach may be able to take tbis team all way. It is a good team.
 

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