The Rumours Thread

[Dragonsamy]

Any chance of you doing the review Sammy ? You could give yourself a pay rise whilst you are at .

Lol

 

[muzby]

Most sensible post you've made in a while.

Thanks for your kind words.. I hope to be able to say the same about you at some stage..

 

[Dennis Papaioannou]

Thanks for your kind words.. I hope to be able to say the same about you at some stage..

Don't worry too much, I have no expectations.

 

[jak]

After reading the previous posts I am now down in the dumps as my earlier elation at the news has been well and truly tempered by some good ol fashion logic that has been presented by fellow members .

Namely as stated , what in the hell would McGregor be involved in any talks with the very person who could potentially A - hole him out of a job ? This begs the question - just how thick is the blood between mates ?

Unfortunately it just does not add up at all . The end result of this tragic season must be the head of Mary , however that would require B.G. to come to the party and outlay a substantial amount of money to A - terminate and pay out McGregors contract and B - to employ Gould to do a thorough clean out of all who stand in the way of the Dragons future success . Brian Johnston is the CEO , so we can not have another , which means IF the rumor is indeed correct , just what capacity will he be employed in ?

you mean like mary and price were are mates.

 

[Warabrook saint]

Kenny Wilson once told him "you better hop on the bus Gus"

 

[The calm one]

Back..back... to the forest you go, stop poking you head out, you know it is not harmonious to your soul.
Breathe that fresh air, listen to those birds sing, embrace the sunshine
We will call for guidance from our higher power when we have to tell you someone is coming and Mary is going.

Mate I will be sitting in the before kick off. Do your soul a favour and join me

 

[ALSGI]

It’s pretty clear what needs to happen with McNoidea.

Nothing but sacking would be acceptable to most fans and you would think sponsors as well. Support such as membership, attendance and product sales will surely take a huge hit if there isn’t a clean out. Our major sponsor just signed on again which is confusing - how they’ve been convinced to do this is interesting. Maybe they’re privy to what is coming in terms of coaching and player movements.

If the Gould review is true, it will test his integrity, knowledge and risk his reputation. If Gould is as smart as he is portrayed surely he wouldn’t even commence a review without a clear understanding and expectation from the Club that McGregor is gone.

I’m thinking McFade is already gone - Gould to guide the next small steps for mankind.

 

[TruSaint]

It’s pretty clear what needs to happen with McNoidea.

Nothing but sacking would be acceptable to most fans and you would think sponsors as well. Support such as membership, attendance and product sales will surely take a huge hit if there isn’t a clean out. Our major sponsor just signed on again which is confusing - how they’ve been convinced to do this is interesting. Maybe they’re privy to what is coming in terms of coaching and player movements.

If the Gould review is true, it will test his integrity, knowledge and risk his reputation. If Gould is as smart as he is portrayed surely he wouldn’t even commence a review without a clear understanding and expectation from the Club that McGregor is gone.

I’m thinking McFade is already gone - Gould to guide the next small steps for mankind.

THe article on wwos, clearly states that Mary and Gould met before Gould accepted the offer to join the review.

It also suggests that Mary's job is secure.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

On a different front, has anyone heard that a number of players: Field (old news), Korbin Sims, Ravalawa and Host have all been told their services are no longer required?

 

[TruSaint]

On a different front, has anyone heard that a number of players: Field (old news), Korbin Sims, Ravalawa and Host have all been told their services are no longer required?

Host and Rava.. not sure re Sims.

 

[getsmarty]

THe article on wwos, clearly states that Mary and Gould met before Gould accepted the offer to join the review.

It also suggests that Mary's job is secure.

Dragons draft in Gould to help with end-of-season review
Author
Brad Walter NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp
Fri 6 Sep 2019, 05:51 PM

Phil Gould will begin a review of St George Illawarra football operations next week after being approached by Dragons coach Paul McGregor.

Gould, NSW’s most successful State of Origin coach and a two-time premiership-winning mentor with Canterbury and Penrith, has more than 30 years experience as a coach, administrator and commentator and is considered one of the most knowledgeable people in the game.

He was a guest at the annual Illawarra Rugby League luncheon in Wollongong, which was a roast in honour of McGregor and attended by many of his former team-mates and coaches.

McGregor later asked Gould to help out with St George Illawarra’s annual review of football operations and offer an outsider’s perspective on areas he and the club can improve.

After confirming his interest to Dragons CEO Brian Johnston, Gould will be involved with the review once the team’s season officially ends after Saturday’s match against Gold Coast at Cbus Super Stadium.

“Paul McGregor asked me a couple of weeks ago if I could provide an external set of eyes and ears over the Dragons' end-of-year review process,” Gould said. “I spoke with Brian Johnston this week. Brian, Paul and I will meet again next week after the Dragons' final game.”



Dragons out to honour milestones

While the specific details of Gould’s role are unclear, it is not expected that the review will lead to him taking on a permanent role with St George Illawarra.

Gould has previously been involved in end-of-season reviews at other clubs, most notably at North Queensland where he recommended to the Cowboys in 2010 that Neil Henry should remain as coach and Johnathan Thurston as captain.

“The end-of-year review process, conducted by every NRL club every year, represents part of the process of future planning,” Gould said.

“I’m happy to lend a hand. It's not a paid job. Every year, even during my time at Panthers, I get NRL coaches, assistant coaches, chairmen, CEOs and even players requesting to catch up and have a cup of coffee to talk about life, their football clubs and their careers. I've always been more than happy to help if I can.

“I’m looking forward to speaking with the Dragons club next week.”

Johnston said that while the club undertakes a review at the end of every year, it will have added significance this season given St George Illawarra’s disappointing 2019 campaign.

"Nobody at the club is happy with how the Dragons have performed and that's extended to all our stakeholders including members and supporters," Johnston said.

"We are committed to reviewing all aspects of our football department to ensure improvement in 2020."

There is no suggestion that McGregor’s job is under threat, and he is expected to commence his new two-year contract in 2020, but changes to the club’s coaching staff have been predicted.

A series of changes were made after the 2016 review overseen by a panel comprising former Dragons skipper Mark Coyne, sport scientist Dr Craig Duncan and performance specialists Dirk Melton and Clare Prideaux.

Among their recommendations was that McGregor leave recruitment decisions to St George Illawarra head of pathways Ian Millward so he could focus solely on coaching and the Dragons fell one win short of a finals berth in 2017 before finishing seventh last season after leading the premiership for 18 rounds.

Without the services of key forward Jack de Belin for the entire season due to the ARLC’s no-fault stand-down policy and captain Gareth Widdop for most of it after a shoulder injury, the Dragons have struggled and will finish 15th regardless of the result of Saturday’s match against Gold Coast.



Widdop reflects on Dragons memories

Tyson Frizell (ruptured testicle), James Graham (broken leg), Korbin Sims (broken arm), Corey Norman (fractured cheekbone), Tim Lafai (ankle), Zac Lomax (broken thumb) and Jeremy Latimore (knee) have also spent extended time on the sidelines.

Once the team was no longer in finals reckoning, Tariq Sims underwent surgery for a groin injury he had battled since round three and rookie winger Jason Saab had shoulder surgery, while hooker Cameron McInnes broke his leg in last weekend’s loss to Wests Tigers.

Besides the loss of Widdop (Warrington) and Jeremy Latimore (retiring), the Dragons roster will be largely unchanged in 2020, with the likes of Saab, Tristan Sailor and Jackson Ford expected to feature more regularly in the top team after making their debuts this season.

The club’s Canterbury Cup team are minor premiers and their under-20s are also in the finals of their NSWRL competition.


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2019/09/06/dragons-draft-in-gould-to-help-with-end-of-season-review/

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

It’s pretty clear what needs to happen with McNoidea.

Nothing but sacking would be acceptable to most fans and you would think sponsors as well. Support such as membership, attendance and product sales will surely take a huge hit if there isn’t a clean out. Our major sponsor just signed on again which is confusing - how they’ve been convinced to do this is interesting. Maybe they’re privy to what is coming in terms of coaching and player movements.

If the Gould review is true, it will test his integrity, knowledge and risk his reputation. If Gould is as smart as he is portrayed surely he wouldn’t even commence a review without a clear understanding and expectation from the Club that McGregor is gone.

I’m thinking McFade is already gone - Gould to guide the next small steps for mankind.

Hope your right, buddy.

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

Dragons draft in Gould to help with end-of-season review
Author
Brad Walter NRL.com Senior Reporter
Timestamp
Fri 6 Sep 2019, 05:51 PM

Phil Gould will begin a review of St George Illawarra football operations next week after being approached by Dragons coach Paul McGregor.

Gould, NSW’s most successful State of Origin coach and a two-time premiership-winning mentor with Canterbury and Penrith, has more than 30 years experience as a coach, administrator and commentator and is considered one of the most knowledgeable people in the game.

He was a guest at the annual Illawarra Rugby League luncheon in Wollongong, which was a roast in honour of McGregor and attended by many of his former team-mates and coaches.

McGregor later asked Gould to help out with St George Illawarra’s annual review of football operations and offer an outsider’s perspective on areas he and the club can improve.

After confirming his interest to Dragons CEO Brian Johnston, Gould will be involved with the review once the team’s season officially ends after Saturday’s match against Gold Coast at Cbus Super Stadium.

“Paul McGregor asked me a couple of weeks ago if I could provide an external set of eyes and ears over the Dragons' end-of-year review process,” Gould said. “I spoke with Brian Johnston this week. Brian, Paul and I will meet again next week after the Dragons' final game.”



Dragons out to honour milestones

While the specific details of Gould’s role are unclear, it is not expected that the review will lead to him taking on a permanent role with St George Illawarra.

Gould has previously been involved in end-of-season reviews at other clubs, most notably at North Queensland where he recommended to the Cowboys in 2010 that Neil Henry should remain as coach and Johnathan Thurston as captain.

“The end-of-year review process, conducted by every NRL club every year, represents part of the process of future planning,” Gould said.

“I’m happy to lend a hand. It's not a paid job. Every year, even during my time at Panthers, I get NRL coaches, assistant coaches, chairmen, CEOs and even players requesting to catch up and have a cup of coffee to talk about life, their football clubs and their careers. I've always been more than happy to help if I can.

“I’m looking forward to speaking with the Dragons club next week.”

Johnston said that while the club undertakes a review at the end of every year, it will have added significance this season given St George Illawarra’s disappointing 2019 campaign.

"Nobody at the club is happy with how the Dragons have performed and that's extended to all our stakeholders including members and supporters," Johnston said.

"We are committed to reviewing all aspects of our football department to ensure improvement in 2020."

There is no suggestion that McGregor’s job is under threat, and he is expected to commence his new two-year contract in 2020, but changes to the club’s coaching staff have been predicted.

A series of changes were made after the 2016 review overseen by a panel comprising former Dragons skipper Mark Coyne, sport scientist Dr Craig Duncan and performance specialists Dirk Melton and Clare Prideaux.

Among their recommendations was that McGregor leave recruitment decisions to St George Illawarra head of pathways Ian Millward so he could focus solely on coaching and the Dragons fell one win short of a finals berth in 2017 before finishing seventh last season after leading the premiership for 18 rounds.

Without the services of key forward Jack de Belin for the entire season due to the ARLC’s no-fault stand-down policy and captain Gareth Widdop for most of it after a shoulder injury, the Dragons have struggled and will finish 15th regardless of the result of Saturday’s match against Gold Coast.



Widdop reflects on Dragons memories

Tyson Frizell (ruptured testicle), James Graham (broken leg), Korbin Sims (broken arm), Corey Norman (fractured cheekbone), Tim Lafai (ankle), Zac Lomax (broken thumb) and Jeremy Latimore (knee) have also spent extended time on the sidelines.

Once the team was no longer in finals reckoning, Tariq Sims underwent surgery for a groin injury he had battled since round three and rookie winger Jason Saab had shoulder surgery, while hooker Cameron McInnes broke his leg in last weekend’s loss to Wests Tigers.

Besides the loss of Widdop (Warrington) and Jeremy Latimore (retiring), the Dragons roster will be largely unchanged in 2020, with the likes of Saab, Tristan Sailor and Jackson Ford expected to feature more regularly in the top team after making their debuts this season.

The club’s Canterbury Cup team are minor premiers and their under-20s are also in the finals of their NSWRL competition.


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2019/09/06/dragons-draft-in-gould-to-help-with-end-of-season-review/

“Paul McGregor asked me a couple of weeks ago if I could provide an external set of eyes and ears over the Dragons' end-of-year review process,” Gould said. “I spoke with Brian Johnston this week. Brian, Paul and I will meet again next week after the Dragons' final game.”

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That just ruined my night, my week, my month ........... my year.

 

[Crush]

On a different front, has anyone heard that a number of players: Field (old news), Korbin Sims, Ravalawa and Host have all been told their services are no longer required?

I'd keep Korbin Sims, the other 3 are garbage.

 

[2010]

If McIdiot escapes getting the sack this so called review is just smoke and mirrors

 

[Gareth67]

If McIdiot escapes getting the sack this so called review is just smoke and mirrors

Agree 100% . And if is does turn out this way then it will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the hierarchy will go to any and all lengths to keep their noses clean .

 

[Dragon Blood]

If McIdiot escapes getting the sack this so called review is just smoke and mirrors

Yep a complete wank with expected facial ending for all fans, supporters and corporate sponsors

 

[muzby]

2020 excuse: “The outside influence of Gould was a disruption to McGregor. This is something he’s never had to deal with before. You can’t be expected to deliver results under conditions like that.”

 

[getsmarty]

“Paul McGregor asked me a couple of weeks ago if I could provide an external set of eyes and ears over the Dragons' end-of-year review process,” Gould said. “I spoke with Brian Johnston this week. Brian, Paul and I will meet again next week after the Dragons' final game.”

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That just ruined my night, my week, my month ........... my year.

Sorry OKB ....better we know its a sham now than cling to any semblance of hope....

 

[Dragonsamy]

On a different front, has anyone heard that a number of players: Field (old news), Korbin Sims, Ravalawa and Host have all been told their services are no longer required?

Yeap.