Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[MugaB]

There are at least 3 forwards in our top 17 who could play middle or edge, 4 if you count Kiks, i'd keep an open mind about who we need to sign most because that is fair amount of pieces that can be juggled. Matterson is all class, id happily take him.

Last year i saw kikau play on the wing, when someone got injured, he did better than ok, kiks to me should be our lock, freedom to move wherever, t h e game has gotten too defensive, we stopped using ball running 13s instead added a 3rd prop, thats stupid, balls goes to the edges quicker if you're lock is an extra 5/8

 

[franklin2323]

There are at least 3 forwards in our top 17 who could play middle or edge, 4 if you count Kiks, i'd keep an open mind about who we need to sign most because that is fair amount of pieces that can be juggled. Matterson is all class, id happily take him.

That is it for me. I see try scoring as a must.

Leinu was ave over 200m a game in NSW Cup. Leota with extended gametime was decent enough. JFH was player of the year. Tamou wasn't far behind stats wise. Still have Hetherington too and Martin can play prop. Flegg have some decent props too that might be right to go at the end of the year.

But where does the points scoring come from? We lose Maloney's 20 tries he produced and were 80-100 points short of where the attack should be. If we can recruit guys to fix that and move others around then so be it

 

[herbert henry1908]

How do you know signing him will stop us addressing other areas? You are assuming that because you want to criticize

No, I’m reading between the lines.

He wants out of the Tigers because he’s not being paid enough, I also think it’s likely we don’t have as much cap space as we think. We’re likely paying some of salaries of the players that have left.

Correct me if i am wrong but earlier in the year when we released Waqa and Dallin didnt you complain about the club releasing established FGers because we had unproven juniors who we can bring through? Now we are possibly signing a proven, established FG player who is well rated by most and a borderline origin player in a position where our only depth players are unproven juniors and you want to complain about that too.

Signing established players is good, but there’s an order of priority and I don’t see second row at the top. And neither do you.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Mansour was poor no doubt as was Whare but they missed enough footy to look at others and very little changed. So how could Vunivalu change things if he gets no ball?

Yeo had no try assists. Winterstein had no try assists. Kikau had 1. Martin had 1.

Matterson had 4. Him being on the right instantly gets the outside backs more chances and he has the same tackle % as Yeo so very much changes in defence too but improve the biggest weakness.

4 try assists across a whole season isn’t a very convincing argument.

I agree he’s a quality player, but I’d only be signing him after other more important areas are addressed.

 

[OldPanther]

Last year i saw kikau play on the wing, when someone got injured, he did better than ok, kiks to me should be our lock, freedom to move wherever, t h e game has gotten too defensive, we stopped using ball running 13s instead added a 3rd prop, thats stupid, balls goes to the edges quicker if you're lock is an extra 5/8

This trend is changing back with guys like Cameron Murray and Jake Turbo. They can run hard in the middle but most importantly can ball play.

 

[franklin2323]

4 try assists across a whole season isn’t a very convincing argument.

I agree he’s a quality player, but I’d only be signing him after other more important areas are addressed.

It is when you add the whole package though.

3 forced line drop outs.
260 kicking metres.
better tackle % then any of our backrowers (well same as Yeo)
3 most run metres for backrowers in the NRL (Better than Fish)

Assuming he is available and the money is right then you'd be stupid to not go for it

 

[herbert henry1908]

It is when you add the whole package though.

3 forced line drop outs.
260 kicking metres.
better tackle % then any of our backrowers (well same as Yeo)
3 most run metres for backrowers in the NRL (Better than Fish)

Assuming he is available and the money is right then you'd be stupid to not go for it

Call me old fashioned, but in order to improve attack I’d prefer specialists.

He’s a very good player, but I don’t see our attack being improved much from him coming here. Other than run meters all those stats are bits & pieces.


We need a strike centre far more than a back rower.

 

[franklin2323]

Call me old fashioned, but in order to improve attack I’d prefer specialists.

He’s a very good player, but I don’t see our attack being improved much from him coming here. Other than run meters all those stats are bits & pieces.


We need a strike centre far more than a back rower.

I'd agree if we had a FB that could pass or Cleary could throw cut outs.. Easy fix is get more guys that can do something with the ball. The last set is getting better quality to finish the tries off

 

[The yak]

A strike centre is only good if he gets good clean ball. From the halves, FB or a back-rower.
Newcastle had one in Ramien and they quite often gave him a cold on the right edge.

 

[betcats]

Call me old fashioned, but in order to improve attack I’d prefer specialists.

He’s a very good player, but I don’t see our attack being improved much from him coming here. Other than run meters all those stats are bits & pieces.


We need a strike centre far more than a back rower.

Matterson is a very classy attacking player if that stats dont show that then its the stats that are misleading.

 

[age.s]

While we're talking about priorities for the squad, why are we talking about needing to shift Mansour on? He had a crap first few months, spent a few weeks in reggies and came back a very good player. It was pretty clearly a confidence issue, so why don't we give him some and tell him the wing spots are for him and Brian's to lose in 2020. Keep Naden/MWZ as backup and buy some centres, forwards and a backup half.

 

[betcats]

No, I’m reading between the lines.

He wants out of the Tigers because he’s not being paid enough, I also think it’s likely we don’t have as much cap space as we think. We’re likely paying some of salaries of the players that have left.




Signing established players is good, but there’s an order of priority and I don’t see second row at the top. And neither do you.

Yeah but im grounded enough to realise the club possibly seeing Matterson as a priority over a prop isnt a good reason to bag anyone. Signing him might strengthen the middle and overall the side more then just signing a prop, we dont know how it'll work out or who they might move. Lets wait and see before deciding its an error.

 

[betcats]

While we're talking about priorities for the squad, why are we talking about needing to shift Mansour on? He had a crap first few months, spent a few weeks in reggies and came back a very good player. It was pretty clearly a confidence issue, so why don't we give him some and tell him the wing spots are for him and Brian's to lose in 2020. Keep Naden/MWZ as backup and buy some centres, forwards and a backup half.

Lack of speed and lack of a scoring threat. To'o is a very similar player who can score which accentuates the problem.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Yeah but im grounded enough to realise the club possibly seeing Matterson as a priority over a prop isnt a good reason to bag anyone.

Humble too

Seriously, dude. It’s a discussion board, rather than worrying about what I post, put me on ignore.

 

[ACTPanthers]

While we're talking about priorities for the squad, why are we talking about needing to shift Mansour on? He had a crap first few months, spent a few weeks in reggies and came back a very good player. It was pretty clearly a confidence issue, so why don't we give him some and tell him the wing spots are for him and Brian's to lose in 2020. Keep Naden/MWZ as backup and buy some centres, forwards and a backup half.

I absolutely love Sauce - One of my all time favourite players due to his welcoming personality and his loyalty to the club over the years... But, in saying that, as the Mansaurus gets older his deficiencies are being exposed more and more - He has little to no speed or acceleration, is a liability under the high ball, and gets caught out defensively a lot more than he should - If there are better options out there, we should definitely look to move Sauce on. He could get a good pay day and be an asset over in the SL.

 

[betcats]

Humble too

Seriously, dude. It’s a discussion board, rather than worrying about what I post, put me on ignore.

I'm not bothered by what you post, we are discussing signing in a signings thread. I have a different opinion to you and I posted it no reason for you to get pissy.

 

[herbert henry1908]

You clearly are bothered, rather than just critiquing my idea you accused me of only bringing it up because I just “want to criticise”

You’ve done similar now on a few occasions. Obviously some of my posts rustle your jimmies.

If I come off as overly critical, that’s because I’m frustrated out how this club has been run now for a long time.

 

[Tronald Crump]

I realise we won't get all of these players. If we are lucky some of them.

Marsters. Yes
Twal. Yes.
Morris. Maybe
Gillett. Unsure.
Matterson. Yes please.
JWH. Yes.

 

[Pomoz]

The Lurker says "Alex Twal and Matt Prior" are our potential signings. Fook me, we are a shit club at times. Matt Prior is 33 next year and averaged 88m a game last year.

Alex Twal averages 107m a game and has good defence but he is decidedly average. I hope he is coming for a very reasonable salary.

The Lurker reckons RCG was on $800k for five years and we are subsidising $150k a year. The club thinks he isn't worth $650k so they would rather buy another prop with that money. I guess that depends on what the current market rate is. What do you get for $650k at prop in 2019?

Are Twal and Prior coming for the combined amount? Better defence from Twal, fewer metres than RCG from either of them, but more depth. Does this make sense to anybody besides Dave's mate?

 

[herbert henry1908]

The Lurker says "Alex Twal and Matt Prior" are our potential signings. Fook me, we are a shit club at times. Matt Prior is 33 next year and averaged 88m a game last year.

Alex Twal averages 107m a game and has good defence but he is decidedly average. I hope he is coming for a very reasonable salary.

The Lurker reckons RCG was on $800k for five years and we are subsidising $150k a year. The club thinks he isn't worth $650k so they would rather buy another prop with that money. I guess that depends on what the current market rate is. What do you get for $650k at prop in 2019?

Are Twal and Prior coming for the combined amount? Better defence from Twal, fewer metres than RCG from either of them, but more depth. Does this make sense to anybody besides Dave's mate?

Twal’s output is pretty similar to RCG, so if you can get him for 400k you’ve probably saved some money.

Prior is a big NO from me.