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[Eelogical]

Maybe he can do that after you specify what 'meaningful action on climate change' looks like. On a global scale.

Sit in front of a camera and tell us all how to go about our life?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Sit in front of a camera and tell us all how to go about our life?

So far that's all we have.

 

[Eelogical]

So far that's all we have.

Sounds like a plan to ride the public purse to justify an existence.

 

[Bandwagon]

I look at it this way, we either sell other countries coal or they buy it from someone else. Either way...they're still buying coal.

So do we want to take the money from the countries who want to buy coal or do we not want to take the money from countries who want to buy coal. Either way...they're still going to buy coal.

It's like the cigarettes argument. You can price/tax cigarettes as much as you want to stop people buying them. People are still going to buy them.

I look at it this way, I either sell the ice addicts their ice, or someone else is gonna do it, either way they're gonna get their ice......

 

[Bandwagon]

Maybe he can do that after you specify what 'meaningful action on climate change' looks like. On a global scale.

To start a coherent and consistent energy policy that encourages investment in established technologies and R&D into new and emerging technologies.

Rethinking and restructuring our distribution systems so as they are more compatible with small scale and localised generation, leveraging the already significant investment by Joe public that has already been made.

 

[Bandwagon]

This seems to be the standard response from the Left...basically because anyone challenges their argument, they've got ZERO to back up any kind of argument they want to propagate.

Tens of thousands of scientific studies done by scientists experienced in their chosen field

Why demand facts over arguments that have already been won when all you will do is ignore the ones that don't suit?

..............then cry about the evil left not listening to whatever the hell it is you think to be important.

 

[Bandwagon]

Maybe he can do that after you specify what 'meaningful action on climate change' looks like. On a global scale.

Mind you this is a fallacious argument at any rate. An argument that proposes there is a problem, and that it needs be solved, is not any less of an argument because it doesn't propose the means for the solution.

The core of the argument is that there is a problem. The solution is another argument altogether.

 

[Eelogical]

Mind you this is a fallacious argument at any rate. An argument that proposes there is a problem, and that it needs be solved, is not any less of an argument because it doesn't propose the means for the solution.

The core of the argument is that there is a problem. The solution is another argument altogether.

 

[Chipmunk]

I look at it this way, I either sell the ice addicts their ice, or someone else is gonna do it, either way they're gonna get their ice......

Except ice is illegal. Coal isn't

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Whatever happened to that invention I saw on Beyond 2000 I think, where someone had designed something that would harness the power of the ocean's movement?

 

[Chipmunk]

Tens of thousands of scientific studies done by scientists experienced in their chosen field

Why demand facts over arguments that have already been won when all you will do is ignore the ones that don't suit?

..............then cry about the evil left not listening to whatever the hell it is you think to be important.

Show me just one of these tens of thousands of scientific studies that indicates that if Australia went to 100% renewable energy tomorrow that it will have any thing more than a minor or even negligible affect on the impact of global warming on the world.

Should I wait? Or will you get back to me??

 

[Eelogical]

Whatever happened to that invention I saw on Beyond 2000 I think, where someone had designed something that would harness the power of the ocean's movement?

The inventor was probably liquidated. There are oil reserves to be drained first.

 

[Bandwagon]

Except ice is illegal. Coal isn't

I could just as easily argue, except coal is a pollutant that has killed far more people than Ice ever will.

However the logical sequence I used is identical to yours, legality has no bearing upon the logic. nor do the deaths that burning coal has caused.

 

[Bandwagon]

Show me just one of these tens of thousands of scientific studies that indicates that if Australia went to 100% renewable energy tomorrow that it will have any thing more than a minor or even negligible affect on the impact of global warming on the world.

Should I wait? Or will you get back to me??

I'm not aware of a study that has addressed that either way. I wouldn't think there any real need.

Common sense will tell you that as a developed economy, if we wish to argue that other economies ( particularly less developed ones ) should take action to mitigate climate change, we would do better pressing that idea if we ourselves have taken and or are taking action.

 

[Bandwagon]

Whatever happened to that invention I saw on Beyond 2000 I think, where someone had designed something that would harness the power of the ocean's movement?

It rusted.

Salt water will do that.

 

[Bandwagon]

What has a guy playing with his balls got to do with anything?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Good idea. We can do that via the United Nations ... oh wait.

Because they have such a great record.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I look at it this way, I either sell the ice addicts their ice, or someone else is gonna do it, either way they're gonna get their ice......

Wow. Some brown people want to use as much electricity as you do and you compare them to ice addicts.

 

[Bandwagon]

Wow. Some brown people want to use as much electricity as you do and you compare them to ice addicts.

Wow, you thought you had an argument, then you posted that dribble instead.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Tens of thousands of scientific studies done by scientists experienced in their chosen field

Why demand facts over arguments that have already been won when all you will do is ignore the ones that don't suit?

..............then cry about the evil left not listening to whatever the hell it is you think to be important.

None of the countless studies offer feasible solutions. It's all speculation and bullshit and narrow-band predictions of the future. Modern scientists are so specialised they're unable to see the bigger picture. But journalists and politicians have great imaginations, and they know how to sell a crisis to a public desperate to manufacture a bit of meaning in their lives.