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TheRam

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What’s the story behind it all though? What was their reason?
In hindsight it seems like complete stupidity ‘letting him go’ but maybe he wasn’t showing much at the time.
Why is he playing for the Warriors? Did he just want to go and live in New Zealand, or did no other club think he was worthwhile signing either and the Warriors gave him a shot?


He was showing plenty in the lower grades apparently, but they simply prioritized others over him. Just like Walker wasn't seen as a major priority target signing and they wanted to make him a fullback too, which was the final straw and he went off to the Roosters.

Playmakers are hens teeth. When you have exceptional ones in the lower grades, you sacrifice all other players to hold on to them. Sure they many won't turn out but tough, that is the gamble that has to be taken in regards to playmakers.

When I say you sacrifice all other players, I'm using hyperbole for affect. If you are competent and know what you are doing as a club, it would never get to that. You would have the hand full of elite juniors coming through that you have I identified and prioritized them over all the others and if if came to having to let go of any of those the best playmakers would be the ones that you should treasure the most.

Look at Parra, is it a coincidence that we are yet to win a premiership since Sterlo retired? Lets put it this way, the current team we have now, we could maybe jag a premiership if Moses plays out of his skin come finals time, but put Thurston in there instead of Moses and what do you think our chances are then, even with the lack of speed out wide?

We haven't had the likes of a truly great playmaker in our roster playing consistently good footy long enough with a quality team around him to win a premiership. Sure some teams have won premierships without great playmakers or GOAT's, but that is the exception, like say when the sharks won it, but look at that team and they had virtually every single player in the top 17 playing the best footy of their lives, plus they had some of the most experienced players of the past decade or so to do it including a very crafty dummy half. Then that was it and they died in the arse after that though retirements mainly and some injuries. There playmakers weren't good enough to keep building around, so since then they have been trying to acquire some with limited success.

But if they had at least one great playmakers in the squad, then acquiring quality forwards or backs to put around him isn't such a hard ask. Players want to go to clubs that they know they can play their best footy off of the back of a great and consistent playmaker or otherwise the team will never really be successful and their their time there and careers will suffer.
 

TheRam

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My thoughts after seeing him be run down easily by Gutho is that his best spot would be in the halves. Need speed to be a good f/b these days imo.


Yeah true, I was a little surprised too when that happened, but his skill, footwork and initial off the mark speed, is more then enough to see him make it as a fullback until he transitions to 5/8th.
 

Gronk

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Merkins up in arms bc election nerd posts that you can't be dead if you are immortal. Probs underestimated the twitter fury. Now they are calling for his head on a plate.

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Poupou Escobar

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The recent anti-PC push for more cancel culture is just them using the snowflakes' tactics against them. I'm sure they'd rather nobody get cancelled but that genie isn't going back in the bottle. It's a culture war, and the left dictate which weapons are allowed.
 

Gronk

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The recent anti-PC push for more cancel culture is just them using the snowflakes' tactics against them. I'm sure they'd rather nobody get cancelled but that genie isn't going back in the bottle. It's a culture war, and the left dictate which weapons are allowed.

Hypocrisy is tested when your free speach beliefs, values and opinions land close to home. Blame appropriation is a soft cock cop out.
 

T.S Quint

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The recent anti-PC push for more cancel culture is just them using the snowflakes' tactics against them. I'm sure they'd rather nobody get cancelled but that genie isn't going back in the bottle. It's a culture war, and the left dictate which weapons are allowed.

“We didn’t want to play this way but the Left started it!”

f**ken rubbish. The Right has been outraged over heaps of shit well before ‘cancel culture’ became a thing.

I think both sides go too far at times with this bullshit, but the blame can’t be laid at the feet of one or the other.
 

Glenneel

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If yesterday's game tells us anything is that there are only 2 clubs likely to win this year's premiership, Storm and Penrith. And what is their common ingredient, speed! That we lack but with a little tweeking and out of the box thinking that is something we can change without costing too much.
Firstly a decent defensive coach.
Secondly get Nicho Hines on board to play fullback.
Thirdly move Gutho to centre along with Peninisi.
Fourthly acquire a speedy winger, the Hammer from Cows would not cost a fortune and seems on the outer atm.
Those moves would increase our speed by acquiring just 2 players.
That is acquiring 2 players probably costing $1m with half of that from Fergo's wage, the other half from massaging the cap which I think MON is very capable of doing.
 

Glenneel

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If yesterday's game tells us anything is that there are only 2 clubs likely to win this year's premiership, Storm and Penrith. And what is their common ingredient, speed! That we lack but with a little tweeking and out of the box thinking that is something we can change without costing too much.
Firstly a decent defensive coach.
Secondly get Nicho Hines on board to play fullback.
Thirdly move Gutho to centre along with Peninisi.
Fourthly acquire a speedy winger, the Hammer from Cows would not cost a fortune and seems on the outer atm.
Those moves would increase our speed by acquiring just 2 players.
That is acquiring 2 players probably costing $1m with half of that from Fergo's wage, the other half from massaging the cap which I think MON is very capable of doing.
 

Gronk

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“We didn’t want to play this way but the Left started it!”

f**ken rubbish. The Right has been outraged over heaps of shit well before ‘cancel culture’ became a thing.

I think both sides go too far at times with this bullshit, but the blame can’t be laid at the feet of one or the other.

I blame Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA. Once you could call that merkin at the fruit shop a Mediterranean Descendant and we'd all have a larf.
 

hindy111

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I blame Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA. Once you could call that merkin at the fruit shop a Mediterranean Descendant and we'd all have a larf.

Yes it is ridiculous.Now I can only call the guy who runs the fruit shop Salami.
 

hindy111

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I think the only thing that offends me is those people in 4 x 4s who stick up my arse on the roads like they own it.
I would never do this but I know a guy who pissed in a coffee cup and threw it at them at a set of lights. Couple of cheekie P platers. He ended up with piss all over himself also and in his Van seat but was worth it. And the smell didn't last that long apparently. Maybe 3 of 4 weeks.
 

Eelementary

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If yesterday's game tells us anything is that there are only 2 clubs likely to win this year's premiership, Storm and Penrith. And what is their common ingredient, speed! That we lack but with a little tweeking and out of the box thinking that is something we can change without costing too much.
Firstly a decent defensive coach.
Secondly get Nicho Hines on board to play fullback.
Thirdly move Gutho to centre along with Peninisi.
Fourthly acquire a speedy winger, the Hammer from Cows would not cost a fortune and seems on the outer atm.
Those moves would increase our speed by acquiring just 2 players.
That is acquiring 2 players probably costing $1m with half of that from Fergo's wage, the other half from massaging the cap which I think MON is very capable of doing.

Both teams also have rep-level halves, and coaches with way more experience than BA...

We could certainly use some more pace put wide, but lack of speed isn't the reason why Moses had no idea on what to do on the last yesterday, or why we had no sense of game management...
 

84 Baby

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I think the only thing that offends me is those people in 4 x 4s who stick up my arse on the roads like they own it.
I brake checked one of them merkins in a Amarok with my old Ford Laser. Literally all I could see were grill and headlights. Came very close to a punch on. f**k all damage to his guard. My Laser “written off”. I was pissed at time but definitely came out on top
 

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