Team list Tuesday Rnd 21 vs Sea Eagles 🦅

[hineyrulz]

Mau was an absolute beast, one of my fav Eels.

 

[hindy111]

Clubs were sniffing around and asked the eels for JA recently- source David Riccio……they asked for him this year

so did the Panthers not rate Burton? They let him go and didn’t let one of their starting halves leave after they choked in a GF?

so now if the junior half leaves they are rated , thought you said if the nrl halves were let go the junior was rated…..talk about changing, throw enough darts you get it right!

Anyhow you are the one making the stupid assumption an 19 year old half isn’t rated by their club as they are unwilling to let their starting halves leave for him….what a f**ken stupid assumption!! Illogical!!

Chill out mate. Its just a game

 

[Gronk]

Mau was an absolute beast, one of my fav Eels.

How do you reckon he'd like your Jake sledging ?

 

[hindy111]

Luai didn't make his NRL debut until age 21 and wasn't a regular starter until he was 23. Cleary debuted at 18 and was a regular starter at 19. The point is NRL players develop at different rates.

Yes. We are very lucky to have him in our books. Its very exciting. My comment I stand by.
It's the same reason we let Norman walk. We had Dylan Brown ready to go. And at the time BA was happy to let Norman or Moses. It was just St George valued Norman more. Not to many where interested in Moses.

So I will repeat it. If we rated JA so much we would not try and keep Brown and Moses past 2023. By 2024 JA would be 21. It would be 4yrs since he made his NRL debut. I genuinely don't think the club rate him that highly. They see him as inferior to what they have or want to keep. He is a handy back up however.
Nothing wrong with that. And hey if he proves us wrong then perhaps we do let Mitch go and keep JA. He would be 1/3 of the cost.

 

[hindy111]

So how come no club signed Luai before he was playing regular first grade?

I don't know. Perhaps Penrith already had him locked up? Maybe he was always injured in juniors and didn't stand out based on that. It's a guessing game. But they sure got rig of Maloney as soon as they could to promote him.

 

[hindy111]

Umm, injured at training perhaps?
So after the injured list comes out, after the training photos were taken and before the team was announced.
Doesn't always have to be a consipiracy.

Or they forgot. It's happened before this season.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Or they forgot. It's happened before this season.

Or BA has banned anyone saying or typing his name or referring to him in anyway in the media. Next photo we see will have his face pixellated

 

[hindy111]

I feel if I give a genuine assessment on players or how they need to improve to get to the next level to many in here come with the pitch forks and attack. I'm getting quite sick of it tbh.
It's called constructive criticism and it's how one betters themself. Plenty of jobs I have done I have had feedback on how I could of done neater or better. I am atleast man enough to listen and learn and then the next time I do it I have improved.

Is it better to just say yeah that's good enough?

 

[hineyrulz]

How do you reckon he'd like your Jake sledging ?

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He’d still probably like having to carry Jakey in the defensive line even less.

 

[hineyrulz]

I feel if I give a genuine assessment on players or how they need to improve to get to the next level to many in here come with the pitch forks and attack. I'm getting quite sick of it tbh.
It's called constructive criticism and it's how one betters themself. Plenty of jobs I have done I have had feedback on how I could of done neater or better. I am atleast man enough to listen and learn and then the next time I do it I have improved.

Is it better to just say yeah that's good enough?

Picking Jakey’s faults and saying he isn’t ready is apparently sledging lol. I suppose it is 2022.

 

[Cloeel]

I feel if I give a genuine assessment on players or how they need to improve to get to the next level to many in here come with the pitch forks and attack. I'm getting quite sick of it tbh.
It's called constructive criticism and it's how one betters themself. Plenty of jobs I have done I have had feedback on how I could of done neater or better. I am atleast man enough to listen and learn and then the next time I do it I have improved.

Is it better to just say yeah that's good enough?

When did you become such a tampon?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes. We are very lucky to have him in our books. Its very exciting. My comment I stand by.
It's the same reason we let Norman walk. We had Dylan Brown ready to go. And at the time BA was happy to let Norman or Moses. It was just St George valued Norman more. Not to many where interested in Moses.

So I will repeat it. If we rated JA so much we would not try and keep Brown and Moses past 2023. By 2024 JA would be 21. It would be 4yrs since he made his NRL debut. I genuinely don't think the club rate him that highly. They see him as inferior to what they have or want to keep. He is a handy back up however.
Nothing wrong with that. And hey if he proves us wrong then perhaps we do let Mitch go and keep JA. He would be 1/3 of the cost.

How do you know they expect to keep Moses and Drown after 2023? How many clubs have two halves on $1M+?

 

[IFR33K]

When did you become such a tampon?

well he does like sticking it to merkins here, and shutting them up with his unbiased opinions and general assessment of the game.

never thought of referring him as a tampon thou.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't know. Perhaps Penrith already had him locked up? Maybe he was always injured in juniors and didn't stand out based on that. It's a guessing game. But they sure got rig of Maloney as soon as they could to promote him.

No, Gould said they always thought he would be better than Cleary. They expected him to become a first grader but he want ready for 20+ games until he was 23. Before that he was a backup.

 

[84 Baby]

Yes. We are very lucky to have him in our books. Its very exciting. My comment I stand by.
It's the same reason we let Norman walk. We had Dylan Brown ready to go. And at the time BA was happy to let Norman or Moses. It was just St George valued Norman more. Not to many where interested in Moses.

So I will repeat it. If we rated JA so much we would not try and keep Brown and Moses past 2023. By 2024 JA would be 21. It would be 4yrs since he made his NRL debut. I genuinely don't think the club rate him that highly. They see him as inferior to what they have or want to keep. He is a handy back up however.
Nothing wrong with that. And hey if he proves us wrong then perhaps we do let Mitch go and keep JA. He would be 1/3 of the cost.

I don’t think anyone disagrees with any of that. Including very likely the club.
If we were to breakdown skills like it was a video game, I’d have him:
Passing - near to on par with Moses/Drown/Gutho
Long kicking - on par with Drown/Gutho
Bombs - sub NRL
Short kicks - average (borderline NRL)
Running - sub NRL
Offensive awareness - sub NRL to average
Tackling (half) - sub NRL to average
Defensive awareness (half) - sub NRL
Fitness - high
Strength (half) - average
Acceleration - near 0

And while some will use it as a negative the cost of BA/JA is likely a lot lower than BA/another backup half. It’s not the be all, but it would distinguish him from say Lachlan Lam.

His obvious flaw is speed in play. Until he gets quicker, he needs to play deeper. Which funnily I find a big flaw of our other halves to be playing to deep, at least at the wrong times

 

[crocodile]

Bloody oath I question Moses, I think he is very good (and glad he is our half) however makes poor decisions at times (and at important moments) but he is on close to million a year too …….with 200 so NRL games…..

JA is on bugger all, only 19 years old with 10 or so games….

expectations of both a different……

anyhow JA may turn out to be a below average NRL, but he has a fair skill set with decent potential (and more agile and faster then you think) and we won’t know which he will go until his 25 or so with 50 to 100 NRL games……gee Townsend (who some has compared JA too) was pretty average for a good part of his early career…..

but calling a 19 year half a dud is while to early of a call to make…..gee some were calling Drown a dud a year or so ago and Mahoney a dud 2 years ago (probably yourself included) but now they are must keeps apparently…….

He'll probably sign with Melbourne and end up a champion.

 

[84 Baby]

How do you know they expect to keep Moses and Drown after 2023? How many clubs have two halves on $1M+?

There was article awhile back that no 5/8th was paid more than $1m and only 2 were paid more than $750k.
Although also there was only one halves combo that had both appearing in top 5 paid in position and they happen to be the reigning premiers.
So make of that what you will

 

[84 Baby]

He'll probably sign with Melbourne and end up a champion.

And then the booers will say BA was holding him back…

 

[Gazzamatta]

When did you become such a tampon?

Oh Nanna!

 

[hineyrulz]

And then the booers will say BA was holding him back…

Now you are getting it, FFS!!