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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

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Copied & pasted for you PR.
This is a very pro Swans article written in the middle of GF hype here but there is truth in it with problems facing the game. Interesting that Swans have a big following in Nth Sydney and the inner west where both districts lost their footy clubs.


How the Swans became Sydney’s biggest footy team - and why they’ll only get bigger

Dane Rampe grew up in Sydney’s eastern suburbs, and so has watched the slow and steady rise of the Swans unfold from close quarters. But even he is occasionally shocked at the extent to which certain parts of the city have come to embrace them.

“You have people kind of recognise you, looking at you a little bit more ... I’m thinking, ‘f---, have I double-parked you in or something? What are you looking at me for?’” the Swans key defender said, laughing.

“And they’re like, ‘Oh mate, just wanted to say good luck this year’, or, ‘Well done on the weekend

“It’s still foreign, but I reckon after COVID it’s probably galvanised the city. Everyone’s tuned in a little bit more. It’s probably that cherry on top, for the work that’s been done over the last five to 10 years, because the game is in a really healthy spot up here.”

Most Swans players have similar stories. Callum Mills was cheered out of a cafe when he dropped in for a pre-game coffee last weekend. “I couldn’t stop laughing. I was like, what is going on? This isn’t Sydney,” he told the ABC. “You go to the beach and there’s Swans hats everywhere. It’s awesome to see the city behind us.”

Their former teammate, Kieren Jack, can feel that a new generation in and around the club’s Paddington base has latched onto the red and white. One ex-Swans employee described this well-heeled cohort of young professionals as the “Merivale set” – the sort of people who regularly populate hospitality baron Justin Hemmes’ flashy pubs, bars and restaurants, and for whom the SCG is not just a place to see the Swans play, but a place to be seen.

With respect to Rampe and Mills – two of the Swans three co-captains this season, both born-and-bred Sydneysiders – footy’s really not so foreign any more. This is Sydney. At least in the east, the north, and the inner west, and probably other pockets soon.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/a-...-on-merch-spending-spree-20220922-p5bk6u.html
Rugby league will always be the biggest game in town, but the Swans are easily the city’s biggest sporting team. If you peel back the layers, as the club readies for its fourth AFL grand final in 10 years, and look at the reasons why, there are some powerful dynamics at play.

Sydney’s current membership base is a whopping 55,394, again outstripping their nearest NRL rival. Roy Morgan’s annual AFL fan survey, despite how rubbery the science behind its figures might be, estimates the full size of the broader Bloods bandwagon is more than 1 million – making them the most-supported club in the AFL, which they have been every year since their drought-breaking 2005 flag.

“One thing that really hit home to me was in round 22 against Collingwood,” said former Swans chairman Richard Colless, who served between 1993 and 2014 – the start of their golden era on and off the field.

“For the first time it dawned on me that a lot of people weren’t just sports lovers coming to a big game. There were actually rusted-on Swans fans everywhere you looked. People had caps, scarves, jumpers – and this is kids and women and men and older people, and so on and so forth.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/gr...l-fair-weather-swans-fan-20220921-p5bk0u.html
“It was a lightbulb moment, that people have progressed from being more genteel, distant supporters, to being the real McCoy. The standard joke out of Victoria used to be that [Swans fans] cheer in the wrong places, and it was really quite condescending.

“I’m not saying it’s dangerous to go to some venues, but we’re probably the least ‘feral’ – but that shouldn’t in any way infer that the people watching the game are any less passionate.”

The Swans are a model organisation in every way. Colless is just one of two chairmen, along with incumbent Andrew Pridham, they’ve had in almost 30 years. They’ve had only two chief executives in the past 13 years, and their current one, Tom Harley, is so widely respected he is being considered to replace Gillon McLachlan at the helm of the AFL.

They’ve had three coaches in the past 26 years, perfecting the art of succession planning in a way few other clubs have managed. Their major corporate backer, QBE, renewed its deal this year for a further five years, which will take one of the longest-running partnerships in Australian sport to four full decades.

They have missed finals football just five times since 1996. And the club’s academy program – much to the chagrin of those south of the border, who see it as an unfair advantage instead of a scheme designed to combat the go-home factor with interstate draftees – is pumping out not only homegrown talents like Mills, Isaac Heeney and Errol Gulden, but hundreds of others who don’t make the top level, yet still go on to strengthen grassroots leagues with their superior skills, understanding and stronger bond with the game.

They are now reaping what Dr Hunter Fujak, a lecturer in sports management at Deakin University and the author of Code Wars: The Battle for Fans, Dollars and Survival, describes as the “generational dividends” of the strategic investments the club and the AFL have made in NSW.

For example, imagine an eight-year-old boy was enrolled into Auskick the year after “Plugger’s Point” in the 1996 preliminary final – widely considered the moment when the city truly accepted the Swans, who were transplanted here as struggling VFL club South Melbourne in 1982. That boy would now be a man in his mid-30s, to whom Aussie rules is not a foreign code at all, but the one he was raised on, and who sees the Swans as an intrinsically Sydney team, not a relocated franchise. He’d probably have a high level of disposable income, and perhaps a young family to indoctrinate as well. While the Swans generally don’t rate anywhere near as well as NRL games on television in Sydney, almost every match they’ve played in recent memory has been on free-to-air.

“Every single week, the Swans are getting [a broadcast reach of] 90,000 people tuning in for some component of the game, times 22 games a year, times 20 years,” Fujak said. “You’re basically investing into that fundamental exposure in this club in Sydney ... that is only possible because the AFL, as a central organisation, have always been so strategic about wanting to promote northern expansion in a way that other codes haven’t been anywhere near.”

Fujak contends Sydney’s territorial gains are also the product of good timing and misfortune from other codes, which helps explain why the Swans and the sport are so popular in the northern and eastern suburbs. All but five of the past 22 premierships won in the local Sydney AFL competition were claimed by clubs from those regions – and the others by the Pennant Hills Demons, a unique footy oasis on the fringe of the western suburbs and north shore.
One part is rugby union’s loss of primacy within Australian sport and in particular the private school system, where AFL has grown rapidly. Another is the Super League war, which fractured rugby league as the Swans began their period of sustained on-field success – offering any jilted fans a tempting alternative, backed by what Colless said was a “clarity of purpose” provided by the club’s stability and the AFL’s foresight.

For his book, Fujak caught up with journalist Peter Lewis, who in 1997 wrote The Convert, an account of how the Super League fiasco pushed him from being a North Sydney Bears tragic to following the Swans, to see if his sporting habits had shifted. They hadn’t.

“Twenty-five years later, he still has been a Swans member every year, he’s only been to three or four NRL games,” he said. “Every one of his kids plays AFL and none of them support an NRL team. When you look at the Super League war, yes, that’s well in the rearview mirror – but there’s this generational scarring or baggage, which the Swans have probably been able to capitalise from in terms of clawing over some disenfranchised people from that period, right as they started to strengthen.”

Anecdotally, many Bears fans appear to have made the same switch after they were squeezed from rugby league’s top table after 1999. Fujak argues that repeated off-field scandals involving NRL players have also turned off some followers, particularly women and white-collar workers.
Bolded part is spot-on. The majority of people at Swans home games don't go because they're mad about footy or the Swans. They go so they can say they attended and post about it on Instagram as part of their image crafting. The more blatant ones will wear the Swans Pride scarf and make sure everybody within earshot knows how much they "love Goodesy", in the hope the right kind of people will overhear it and know for sure that they're one of the good ones...

There's a word for such people, and it's a term that implies you regularly engage in onanism...
 

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Be interesting if the swans run 13th for 6-7 years straight.. see what happens then

Amazing that they have been basically in the finals for 25 years..

Almost strategically organised one may think
Same as the NRL with the Storm, and for the same reasons. Be interesting if a few of the Melbourne white collar brigade gravitate to AAMI Park more often with the racism scandals coming out in Melbourne atm...
 

Colk

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Bolded part is spot-on. The majority of people at Swans home games don't go because they're mad about footy or the Swans. They go so they can say they attended and post about it on Instagram as part of their image crafting. The more blatant ones will wear the Swans Pride scarf and make sure everybody within earshot knows how much they "love Goodesy", in the hope the right kind of people will overhear it and know for sure that they're one of the good ones...

There's a word for such people, and it's a term that implies you regularly engage in onanism...

I was watching the QRL Cup grand final and the fumbleball grand final was also on. This bloke had a Swans jersey but refused to wear it. F***** hilarious
 

Perth Red

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The Swans fans looked outnumbered by about six/seven to one at a guess which is a surprise given the South Melbourne fans that still exist. Can we assume they don’t give a shit about the Swans nowadays? Anyway, glad they got humiliated - not that the majority bandwagonres are feeling too upset.
Maybe a good lesson for those who think the bears coming back in another city is suddenly going to see tens of thousand of ns fans appear out of the woodwork?
 
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Got to be mindful what you mean by “digital rights”. These can be interpreted two ways. 1. The right to stream games online
2. The digital platforms the nrl has that generate revenue through advertising.

in the case of 1. They are tied up into the tv rights deal. Nrl is not an innovative organisation and the idea we’d be the first sports in the world to produce and sell our own content solely online is laughable.

in regards to the nrls digital platforms, this is where grant saw a big opportunity for nrl revenue growth. He’s in that sector and knows advertisers pay big for high traffic platforms. He convinced the arlc to invest $100mill of the games money to take this back from Telstra and own it going forward. AFL continue to have telstra manage theirs (a big part of the $60mill telstra pay afl). This saw digital revenue go from $2mill to $26mill in a few years (Vlandys has now buried the figures so we no longer have an visibility on how it’s performing)

now this is where the problems start. Nrl.com had its own media Dept with ten journos and production team producing content that drove traffic to the platforms. This is a key part of selling advertising on the site.
For reasons known only to himself fox and nine asked him to close down the media arm so that nrl got less traffic and Foxsports and 9’s world of sport platforms picked up that traffic
And he agreed!
He’s basically closed down the vehicle that drives the traffic to our platforms and damaged our revenue raising ability. Why you would do that you’d have to ask Vlandys and Abdo!

the kicker is the review leading to the decision was led by nrls Alexi Baker who was employed by Vlandys and previously a ch9 exec manager for 10 years!

Maybe he was scared of Ch9 and Fox Sports getting a cough and cold... 😂
 

Wb1234

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So the afl grand final just posted their lowest ever recorded tv ratings. Down 30 percent on last year

crowds are at the lowest in 24 years

they had a report on the worst racism scandal in history which they tried to keep under wraps until the offseason

meanwhile the nrl had most finals selling out.

had tv ratings which beat its nearest rival by a total of 25 million viewers

has record funding to clubs

and will probably see a profit over 70 million and the gsmes revenue breaking 600 million pa for the first time ever

so when are they building vlandys a statue ?
 

Colk

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Rumours are swirling that Greg Foran Ceo of Air NZ may be tapped to take over Ceo role from Abdo and PVL gone, with a reduced chairman role coming in for ARLC

Interesting. His CV is very impressive - CEO of Walmart US prior to that. He has the runs from a commercial perspective.

Father of Kieran Foran too, so he also has a connection to the game.
 
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Diesel

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Rumours are swirling that Greg Foran Ceo of Air NZ may be tapped to take over Ceo role from Abdo and PVL gone, with a reduced chairman role coming in for ARLC
Where have you heard this? Sounds promising. Abdo has been very quiet as a CEO but that’s to be expected when the media get the chairman for a quote
 

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