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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

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The return of the bears in a few years is going to be epic

if we are talking about small clubs look no further the. Manly lol

bc with the demise of the bears absolutely zero of their fans switched to manly
Epic for the small group of Bears fans left and those who can’t see past their nostalgia-tinted glasses. No one else will care, certainly not the youth or the newer population of the North Shore. The whole saga has royally f**ked RL on the North Shore and bringing the Bears back in any form will do precious little to heal the damage. The time to act was 20 years ago.
 

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Epic for the small group of Bears fans left and those who can’t see past their nostalgia-tinted glasses. No one else will care, certainly not the youth or the newer population of the North Shore. The whole saga has royally f**ked RL on the North Shore and bringing the Bears back in any form will do precious little to heal the damage. The time to act was 20 years ago.
Lmao manly had over 20 years to try and expand across the spit bridge

mosman cremorne some of the best and richest areas in Sydney. All norths territory
 

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Lmao manly had over 20 years to try and expand across the spit bridge

mosman cremorne some of the best and richest areas in Sydney. All norths territory
I’ve explained this multiple times, the NRL and NSWRL royally botched Norths being booted from the comp as they didn’t give them the Newtown treatment. They left them with their district intact instead of carving it up and giving it to neighbouring teams and refused to make a definitive call on their future. As a result, they’ve given Norths false hope after false hope and allowed them to exist in this weird zombie form, ambulance chasing after struggling teams and putting their hand up for re-entry time and time again, only to be repeatedly denied.

If Manly, or the Roosters or whoever else tried to claim Norths’ district as their own and started sinking major money into it, they’d have been running the risk of the NRL saying the Bears are the next team back in and the Norths district will remain part of their official territory, rendering any investment a waste of money. Even now, despite 20 years of false dawns, it still remains a (completely idiotic) possibility that a Bears team will be readmitted into the comp and they’ll retain the North Sydney district as part of their territory. The game’s governing bodies could have knocked this on the head 20 years ago by making a definitive call on the Bears’ future and by having a vision and a roadmap for the area, instead we’ve had 20 years of rot and directionless idiocy.
 

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I’ve explained this multiple times, the NRL and NSWRL royally botched Norths being booted from the comp as they didn’t give them the Newtown treatment. They left them with their district intact instead of carving it up and giving it to neighbouring teams and refused to make a definitive call on their future. As a result, they’ve given Norths false hope after false hope and allowed them to exist in this weird zombie form, ambulance chasing after struggling teams and putting their hand up for re-entry time and time again, only to be repeatedly denied.

If Manly, or the Roosters or whoever else tried to claim Norths’ district as their own and started sinking major money into it, they’d have been running the risk of the NRL saying the Bears are the next team back in and the Norths district will remain part of their official territory, rendering any investment a waste of money. Even now, despite 20 years of false dawns, it still remains a (completely idiotic) possibility that a Bears team will be readmitted into the comp and they’ll retain the North Sydney district as part of their territory. The game’s governing bodies could have knocked this on the head 20 years ago by making a definitive call on the Bears’ future and by having a vision and a roadmap for the area, instead we’ve had 20 years of rot and directionless idiocy.
Lmao blame the nrl for your clubs failure

you know if manly players cross the spit bridge they aren’t going to get arrested

manly will always be a small geographically isolated club on that peninsula whilst the bears could access the corporate market in a way few other clubs can
 

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Lmao blame the nrl for your clubs failure

you know if manly players cross the spit bridge they aren’t going to get arrested

manly will always be a small geographically isolated club on that peninsula whilst the bears could access the corporate market in a way few other clubs can
Pretend Manly doesn’t exist if it helps you understand the problem. The Roosters or any other club have the same problem if they wanted to officially expand into the North Shore. The situation is a mess there and has been for 20 years.

The Bears haven’t been able to access the NRL for over 20 years. It hasn’t been all bad for them though, their awesome corporate sponsors, aka their Leagues club and associated businesses, have kept supporting them in that time.
 

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Pretend Manly doesn’t exist if it helps you understand the problem. The Roosters or any other club have the same problem if they wanted to officially expand into the North Shore. The situation is a mess there and has been for 20 years.

The Bears haven’t been able to access the NRL for over 20 years. It hasn’t been all bad for them though, their awesome corporate sponsors, aka their Leagues club and associated businesses have kept supporting them in that time.
Anyway billy Moore said on a podcast they’ve been told they are team 18 and they will play where the nrl tells them too ie Perth or nz2 with up to four home games at nso
 

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Bears and THE Dolphins.
We’ve waited so long for expansion and this is the best we can deliver? We are so fcked under this bloke!
Hahaha... money from one the richest rl clubs in Australia in the dolphins, and a famous brand recognized by most rl fans as the bears in a new market... (be it perth or nz2) yeah sure rl is in trouble!
....PR you'd complain if Kim Kardashian gave you a hand job then a blo job... of that it was done in the wrong order
 

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Hahaha... money from one the richest rl clubs in Australia in the dolphins, and a famous brand recognized by most rl fans as the bears in a new market... (be it perth or nz2) yeah sure rl is in trouble!
....PR you'd complain if Kim Kardashian gave you a hand job then a blo job... of that it was done in the wrong order
Hahhaa
 

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Hahaha... money from one the richest rl clubs in Australia in the dolphins, and a famous brand recognized by most rl fans as the bears in a new market... (be it perth or nz2) yeah sure rl is in trouble!
....PR you'd complain if Kim Kardashian gave you a hand job then a blo job... of that it was done in the wrong order
A Brisbane2 club that isnt really a Brisbane2 club and whose main claim to a place seems to be they got rich from pokie machines, and a long dead NSW club brought back that is destined to fail in any new market it tries to seed itself in. Yep great outcomes for waiting 20years! Be honest Dolphins are in because News ltd wanted them as they are the least threat to their Broncos cash cow, and Bears may get in because the game is still incredibly myopic. After waiting so long it would have been nice if they could have actually got it right!
 

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Hahaha... money from one the richest rl clubs in Australia in the dolphins, and a famous brand recognized by most rl fans as the bears in a new market... (be it perth or nz2) yeah sure rl is in trouble!
....PR you'd complain if Kim Kardashian gave you a hand job then a blo job... of that it was done in the wrong order

Summed him up perfectly

Only that whiny f**k would have a problem with some new money coming into the game
 

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There are smart people on the commission. They will recognize a spin merchant. PVL might have got away with it previously due to the circumstances of a pandemic. But after the AFL announcement of their deal, I'm sure other commissioners would like to get more involved next time so that they can improve their pay packets.
Commissioners are on a flat $75k.
 

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A Brisbane2 club that isnt really a Brisbane2 club and whose main claim to a place seems to be they got rich from pokie machines, and a long dead NSW club brought back that is destined to fail in any new market it tries to seed itself in. Yep great outcomes for waiting 20years! Be honest Dolphins are in because News ltd wanted them as they are the least threat to their Broncos cash cow, and Bears may get in because the game is still incredibly myopic. After waiting so long it would have been nice if they could have actually got it right!
Got what right? who the f**k are you comparing to? Don't be using Melbourne, coz they had so much news ltd money pumped into them, they looked GWS to the Victorians.. plus 3 clubs falling over to pick the bones from..
Who else?? All the past NSWRL expansions were generally promoting from within an existing lower grade club... who cares how they propped themselves up to get a license..
It only matters that they are the club for that area... you know the dolphins are a northern corridor team, yet you push the Bris2 adgenda like it was the be all to end all solution for SEQ, the dolphins are far away from the titans for them to worry about.. and are sharing as much of suncorp as the tigers do with the eels at commbank... they both have their respective areas that they represent, why have another easts/souths sharing the area when you can have easts/parra.. the firehawks was a really bad bid, and jets weren't ready in comparison to redcliffe... the best bid won... embrace the bear inside you PR, if you don't you'll miss out.. and the incessant whining might push billy QLDR moore to think about nz2 moreso
 
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If Souffs were kept out then Cronulla could have rebranded as South Sydney Sharks and based themselves out of SFS. Dragons could have relocated permanently to Wollongong as Illawarra Dragons. The game would be in a much better position.
Dumb.... cronulla will never rebrand as an existing entity, south sydney would be exactly where the bears are now, sharks know they are they shire and sutherland area, if anything they are growing a larger footprint in southern sydney, the more dragons have been embracing the wollongong area
 

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Got what right? who the f**k are you comparing to? Don't be using Melbourne, coz they had so much news ltd money pumped into them, they looked GWS to the Victorians.. plus 3 clubs falling over to pick the bones from..
Who else?? All the past NSWRL expansions were generally promoting from within an existing lower grade club... who cares how they propped themselves up to get a license..
It only matters that they are the club for that area... you know the dolphins are a northern corridor team, yet you push the Bris2 adgenda like it was the be all to end all solution for SEQ, the dolphins are far away from the titans for them to worry about.. and are sharing as much of suncorp as the tigers do with the eels at commbank... they both have their respective areas that they represent, why have another easts/souths sharing the area when you can have easts/parra.. the firehawks was a really bad bid, and jets weren't ready in comparison to redcliffe... the best bid won... embrace the bear inside you PR, if you don't you'll miss out.. and the incessant whining might push billy QLDR moore to think about nz2 moreso
I hope they do go with Bears in NZ, Id rather wait for Perth to have its own team one day that has a long term future than take now some NSW club playing games in Perth looking for ways to one day return home.

The best bid for News ltd got in I think you meant lol. Dolphins got in because they wont be Brisbane2 that's why News ltd backed them in lol. We dont need a 'THE', we needed a Brisbane2 playing Ft out of Suncorp and attracting the city. Time will tell but my tea leaves tell us we are going to be talking about the need for Brisbane3 sooner rather than later. Dumb, but thats Vlandys for you.

Lets just do a news ltd favours check shall we?

Tv deal massively in their favour - tick
Brisbane expansion with the team they wanted, not for the good of RL but for the good of the broncos - tick
Closing down of digital media - tick
Removal of Telstra live streaming rights - tick

Its good to have friends in high places!
 

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