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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

Wb1234

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Yet they no longer use it - even for SOO!


Yep. Soccer is much bigger in Sydney than Melbourne. A League crowds are even below Sydney’s.
Biggest a league crowds are the victory

and Melbourne had federation square for all the flare guys. Sydney hasn’t had one until now


melb has way more Greek and Italian migrants who support soccer whilst Sydney is more Lebanese migrants who are league fans
 

Timbo

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Yet they no longer use it - even for SOO!


Yep. Soccer is much bigger in Sydney than Melbourne. A League crowds are even below Sydney’s.

They choose not to use it because it damages the turf for AFL. Just like the retractable seats at Docklands.

They can still use it and no doubt it would be a requirement for a world cup.
 

Suitman

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They choose not to use it because it damages the turf for AFL. Just like the retractable seats at Docklands.

They can still use it and no doubt it would be a requirement for a world cup.

And this is the most annoying thing about those AFL f**ks.
Football hardly damages the pitch.
Sydney Olympic Stadium has been using it for years.
I'm sick of that shit sport dictating year after year what other sports can and can't do. They are a cancer on Australian sport.
Thank goodness the SCG has told them that we won't have a drop in pitch.
 

It's Been Done

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Perth has a rectangular mode where they can bump in seats:

They don't use those seats anymore because the AFL and WAFC (West Australian Football Commission), the latter of whom own the licenses to the two AFL teams over there, cracked it over the condition of the turf during a AFL game the day after the Wallabies vs All Blacks test in 2019. Though I'm sure during the FIFA occupation period they would wheel them out, it's not much different to the same system used at Wellington's Cake Tin (seen below)
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Colk

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And this is the most annoying thing about those AFL f**ks.
Football hardly damages the pitch.
Sydney Olympic Stadium has been using it for years.
I'm sick of that shit sport dictating year after year what other sports can and can't do. They are a cancer on Australian sport.
Thank goodness the SCG has told them that we won't have a drop in pitch.

Yep they are a cancer on cricket at the very least. Just so some stick insect won’t graze their knees. Drop in wickets are a disgrace.
 

Yosemite Sam

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Biggest a league crowds are the victory

and Melbourne had federation square for all the flare guys. Sydney hasn’t had one until now


melb has way more Greek and Italian migrants who support soccer whilst Sydney is more Lebanese migrants who are league fans
Crowds are not the metric you should be using here. Participation at junior levels for soccer in Victoria is very poor. NSW is miles ahead in this regard. NSW also contributes significantly more $$$ funding for soccer than any other state.

Last I checked Victoria isn't even in 2nd place in this regard either. The fact they are getting virtually no games for the Women's WC reflects this. I'd expect any mens competition to be the same. FFA have always favoured Sydney - and rightly so.
 

Perth Red

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Crowds are not the metric you should be using here. Participation at junior levels for soccer in Victoria is very poor. NSW is miles ahead in this regard. NSW also contributes significantly more $$$ funding for soccer than any other state.

Last I checked Victoria isn't even in 2nd place in this regard either. The fact they are getting virtually no games for the Women's WC reflects this. I'd expect any mens competition to be the same. FFA have always favoured Sydney - and rightly so.
sht I wish this many kids played rugby league! Victoria are well clear in second for jnr registered participation but are a very long way behind nsw.
 
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Canard

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The rectangular mode is a bit of a wank though.

How many in the ground get closer to the action? 5k at Optus which is nothing, and about 10k at Marvel. The rest are no better off and in some cases even worse off as their view is sometimes obstructed
 

Perth Red

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The rectangular mode is a bit of a wank though.

How many in the ground get closer to the action? 5k at Optus which is nothing, and about 10k at Marvel. The rest are no better off and in some cases even worse off as their view is sometimes obstructed
I’m surprised no stadiums have yet done it properly with retractable stands rather than drop ins which seem a problem for the pitch and never get used. 5000 extra tickets at $200 plus a go is not to be sneezed at.
 

MugaB

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I’m surprised no stadiums have yet done it properly with retractable stands rather than drop ins which seem a problem for the pitch and never get used. 5000 extra tickets at $200 plus a go is not to be sneezed at.
You'd think venues nsw would invest in doing that for all the oval grounds, or any stadium owners for that matter
 

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Plans for indoor stadium on the site of the Civic Olympic Pool reignited​

5 December 2022 | Tim Gavel

Imagining the new Civic stadium. Photo: GHDWoodhead.

Imagining the new Civic stadium. Photo: GHDWoodhead.

Just as it looked as though the proposed 30,000-seat indoor sporting stadium on the site of the Civic Olympic Pool was on the verge of being cremated, the concept has been resurrected.

A consortium of Canberra businesses, sporting organisations and the Convention Bureau have developed a 36-page proposal addressing the issue of ageing infrastructure in the ACT.

The document, which has been presented to the Prime Minister and the ACT Chief Minister as well as Canberra’s Members of Parliament and ACT MLAs, outlines a way forward to build a new Civic indoor stadium and a new convention centre, as well as a proposal for the AIS Arena.

The plan would see the development of a 30,000-seat stadium, for use by the Raiders, the Brumbies and soccer, as well as providing an international standard, state-of-the-art entertainment venue built on the footprint of the Civic Olympic Pool site.
https://the-riotact.com/the-canberr...for-their-inaugural-season-in-the-nrlw/617678
Issues such as the limitations of the footprint have been addressed with an inverted bowl strategy, while the problems associated with growing of natural grass in an indoor stadium could be overcome with the roof constructed of a product known as ethylene tetrafluoroethylene membrane.

This same product was used successfully on the roof of the Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin, which allows for the growth of natural grass.

The new Convention Centre would be built alongside the Civic stadium as one option, effectively straddling Parkes Way, negating the need for any relocation of the road.

It would also enhance the ‘City to the Lake’ concept.
Artist's impression on the city entertainment precinct. Photo: GHDWoodhead.

An artist’s impression of the city entertainment precinct. Photo: GHDWoodhead.

The proposal, which includes a hotel, would see the creation of a City East Entertainment Precinct with facilities for large-scale events coupled with the ability to cut costs as the stadium and the convention centre would be administered by the one entity, and utilise complementary infrastructure.

A new convention centre is viewed as being as equally important as a new stadium with Canberra being bypassed in the lucrative multibillion-dollar convention market.

To fund the facility the option of a public-private partnership has been proposed whereby a private company designs, builds and maintains the infrastructure on behalf of the government through a long-term contract.

With an estimated cost of between $495m and $736m, innovative funding options such as public-private partnerships are required.
https://the-riotact.com/the-stromlo...-recreation-award-for-event-excellence/617427
To that end, a business syndicate has proposed that underutilised land on the AIS Campus site be returned to the ACT.

This includes Canberra Stadium and the AIS Arena.

The ACT would then be in a position to offer the land to the public-private partnership for development to offset some of the costs associated with building a new facility at the Civic Olympic Pool site.

The proposal would see, as one option, resources set aside to refurbish the AIS Arena to be redirected to the planned medium-sized indoor stadium, currently undergoing feasibility and business case assessment at the University of Canberra.

Artist's impression of the surrounds of new city stadium. Photo: GHDWoodhead.

An artist’s impression of the surrounds of the new city stadium. Photo: GHDWoodhead.

It’s obvious Canberra’s major sporting and convention facilities are in urgent need of a significant overhaul. There is an apparent desire from the business and sporting communities to meet that challenge and to assist the ACT Government in securing financing for such a project without unduly affecting its long-term bottom line.

Observers are quick to point to the chronic capital underfunding of Commonwealth per capita grants over the past decade as a catalyst for the Commonwealth’s support for this proposition.

With Chief Minister Andrew Barr signalling a preference for a redevelopment of Canberra Stadium on the existing Bruce site, it remains to be seen whether there is an appetite to embrace this latest proposal.

 

mongoose

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couldn't they just tunnel under the stadium if they need to - Parkes Way?
I guess it would cost a bit...
 

It's Been Done

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Wouldn't they want provision for up to 40k seats incase Australia bids for the 2030/34/38 FIFA World Cups? Though there have been two venues in the 2018 World Cup in Russia that held less than 40k (Kaliningrad and Central Stadium, Yekaterinburg.) The latter was notable for having temporary stands behind the goals that looked like this;
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Jamberoo

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Wouldn't they want provision for up to 40k seats incase Australia bids for the 2030/34/38 FIFA World Cups? Though there have been two venues in the 2018 World Cup in Russia that held less than 40k (Kaliningrad and Central Stadium, Yekaterinburg.) The latter was notable for having temporary stands behind the goals that looked like this;
Central_Stadium%2C_Yekaterinburg_%28August_2022%29_-_2.jpg
Seats outside the stadium? Interesting. Don't reckon Canberra should go for that. Let's face it, potentially spending millions for something that is 99% never going to happen is what stops projects like this going ahead. Keep it simple. Canberra needs a new stadium that seats 27k - 30K for their RL & RU teams. Just get it done.
 

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