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hineyrulz

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lol Dr Statshroom, basing his argument off Dally M votes. Hodgo had a decent game but if you don’t think he wasn’t out on his feet with 15 to go you are flicking your bean.

You make it sound like this is the first time he’s interchange usage has been questionable when he’s been using it poorly for 10 years. And guess what you’ve been making excuses for him for 10 years.
 

gaffer

Juniors
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What I don't understand is -

Didn't years ago we attempt to Sign Israel Folau for unders? and the NRL knocked it back because we could not fit Folau in the side at market value?

Why can the Roosters sign Lodge for this season for way under? What happen to the whole market value ruling?
wasn't Kevin Kingston the same ??
 

TheRam

Coach
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Rumour Parra has reached out to Curtis Sironen to sign effective immediately. Thoughts?

Dumb move, by our dumb club. We need a genuine front rower that when we replace our starters he can hold his own and we don't lose the middle and or all our momentum, especially against the better teams. We lost to Melbourne when we lost all shape in the middle when the two starters came off. Same problem as last year that hasn't been addressed at all and probably weakened further.

Sure we tried to address it with Martin Taupau but it didn't work out, but we then should have pivoted and found another one to lure here otherwise we have no chance of winning the big one again. You can not keep bashing the two starters game in, game out and think that they will be enough. They are human, fatigue and injuries will set in, especially after what 3 seasons now of the same routine? Normally someone from our juniors should have emerged and stepped up, but we haven't been able to produce a genuine quality front rower that we have held onto since Junior. Which if you ask me is alarming for such a big club that is supposed to be a go to place. Says something about our management and coach, if you ask me.

Anyway, I expect us to be decent again this year and probably make the 8, if injuries are kind, but as for winning the Premiership, Buckley's!

Chasing a second rower in Curtis Sironen when the most important position we have needed to fill for a while now has been a 3rd or even 4th, genuine prop so we can play that 'chase the collision power game' that the coach is so obsessed with, but hasn't recruited sufficiently for. Madness. Look at the Broncos, they had 4 genuine front rowers in their 17 opening round and lost very little when the interchanges took place. I was so freakin envious. Barring injuries, I expect them to be a real contender, even with their handicap of probably having the worst NRL coach. Their squad on paper is probably the best in the NRL and if Reynolds can stay fit, they will be right up there. Pity for them though as I said, terrible coach that obviously, some players don't have much respect for and that could be their undoing and account for yoyo performances as well.

But getting back to our team, for all the sh*t options we took or didn't take against Melbourne, we still could have won that game if when Penisini scored he focused on improving the angle of the ball for the conversion. But instead as soon as he received the ball he knew he was in and therefore almost casually ran to the line and and put it down wider out then he could have if he had focused on it. Sure we are talking at best and extra 3-5m, but that is all it takes for those sort of kicks to go from semi hard to relatively easy. As we all know now Moses missed the kick and we didn't have those potential 2 points in the bank. If we did, we probably win without the extra time needed. I was dirty when I saw Penisini almost stroll over the line, and blew up thinking, have we still not learnt anything. Little things are what win you games. The big plays are the icing. I have seen Bellyache blowing a gasket when a player in his team does what Penisini did and for good reason. I am not trying to lay all the blame on our young centre, but more the culture and standards that are still lacking at times. We need to take every inch that is on offer. The teams that win Premierships are ruthless. No excuses.

As the saying goes, from little things big things grow.

We need another BIG BOPPER THAT CAN HOLD HIS OWN IN THE MIDDLE WAY MORE THAN ANOTHER FREAKIN BACK ROWER FFS!!!

Go the Dolphines!
 

Gronk

Moderator
Staff member
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lol Dr Statshroom, basing his argument off Dally M votes. Hodgo had a decent game but if you don’t think he wasn’t out on his feet with 15 to go you are flicking your bean.

You make it sound like this is the first time he’s interchange usage has been questionable when he’s been using it poorly for 10 years. And guess what you’ve been making excuses for him for 10 years.
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hindy111

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Dumb move, by our dumb club. We need a genuine front rower that when we replace our starters he can hold his own and we don't lose the middle and or all our momentum, especially against the better teams. We lost to Melbourne when we lost all shape in the middle when the two starters came off. Same problem as last year that hasn't been addressed at all and probably weakened further.

Sure we tried to address it with Martin Taupau but it didn't work out, but we then should have pivoted and found another one to lure here otherwise we have no chance of winning the big one again. You can not keep bashing the two starters game in, game out and think that they will be enough. They are human, fatigue and injuries will set in, especially after what 3 seasons now of the same routine? Normally someone from our juniors should have emerged and stepped up, but we haven't been able to produce a genuine quality front rower that we have held onto since Junior. Which if you ask me is alarming for such a big club that is supposed to be a go to place. Says something about our management and coach, if you ask me.

Anyway, I expect us to be decent again this year and probably make the 8, if injuries are kind, but as for winning the Premiership, Buckley's!

Chasing a second rower in Curtis Sironen when the most important position we have needed to fill for a while now has been a 3rd or even 4th, genuine prop so we can play that 'chase the collision power game' that the coach is so obsessed with, but hasn't recruited sufficiently for. Madness. Look at the Broncos, they had 4 genuine front rowers in their 17 opening round and lost very little when the interchanges took place. I was so freakin envious. Barring injuries, I expect them to be a real contender, even with their handicap of probably having the worst NRL coach. Their squad on paper is probably the best in the NRL and if Reynolds can stay fit, they will be right up there. Pity for them though as I said, terrible coach that obviously, some players don't have much respect for and that could be their undoing and account for yoyo performances as well.

But getting back to our team, for all the sh*t options we took or didn't take against Melbourne, we still could have won that game if when Penisini scored he focused on improving the angle of the ball for the conversion. But instead as soon as he received the ball he knew he was in and therefore almost casually ran to the line and and put it down wider out then he could have if he had focused on it. Sure we are talking at best and extra 3-5m, but that is all it takes for those sort of kicks to go from semi hard to relatively easy. As we all know now Moses missed the kick and we didn't have those potential 2 points in the bank. If we did, we probably win without the extra time needed. I was dirty when I saw Penisini almost stroll over the line, and blew up thinking, have we still not learnt anything. Little things are what win you games. The big plays are the icing. I have seen Bellyache blowing a gasket when a player in his team does what Penisini did and for good reason. I am not trying to lay all the blame on our young centre, but more the culture and standards that are still lacking at times. We need to take every inch that is on offer. The teams that win Premierships are ruthless. No excuses.

As the saying goes, from little things big things grow.

We need another BIG BOPPER THAT CAN HOLD HIS OWN IN THE MIDDLE WAY MORE THAN ANOTHER FREAKIN BACK ROWER FFS!!!

Go the Dolphines!

Brilliant. Also our beat two prospect in NSW cup are Morretti and Mataele. Both 2nd rower. No one else has any real potential.
 

Gazzamatta

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Brilliant. Also our beat two prospect in NSW cup are Morretti and Mataele. Both 2nd rower. No one else has any real potential.
Did you watch The Matts Hindy? Big prop Ocean goes good. The other prop looked ok as well. A half decent team. One very quick winger too.
I was a bit disappointed with The Ball. Young Arthur looks a reasonable prospect even allowing for some God awful plays. At times hes a bit too quick between the ears for his own good i reckon. Needs time if hes afforded it but theres a footy player there. Parry is a big kid. Looks impressive.
 

hindy111

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Did you watch The Matts Hindy? Big prop Ocean goes good. The other prop looked ok as well. A half decent team. One very quick winger too.
I was a bit disappointed with The Ball. Young Arthur looks a reasonable prospect even allowing for some God awful plays. At times hes a bit too quick between the ears for his own good i reckon. Needs time if hes afforded it but theres a footy player there. Parry is a big kid. Looks impressive.

I apologise. I meant NSW CUP and ready this season or 2024.
I've heard we have some awesome talent in SG Ball. Id imagine Flegg may also have 1 or 2 as well.
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
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What I don't understand is -

Didn't years ago we attempt to Sign Israel Folau for unders? and the NRL knocked it back because we could not fit Folau in the side at market value?

Why can the Roosters sign Lodge for this season for way under? What happen to the whole market value ruling?
Yeah it's a joke when it comes to consistency.

Lodge was overpaid anyway the NRL did us a favour by stopping us signing that POS
 

Poupou Escobar

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We don't know what we are offering Moses, I doubt $1.25m, but I think the holdup now is the length of contract. We've offered 4 years & he wants 5. Even with 4 we're seriously putting any of our promising junior halves at risk of leaving for greener pastures before his contract expires.
We don't know that any of those promising halves are certainties to become NRL players, while Moses is at least a bird in the hand. But also we are very careful about signing merkins for too much on too long. A 35 year old is a lot less risky at $500k than $1M+
 

yy_cheng

Coach
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We don't know what we are offering Moses, I doubt $1.25m, but I think the holdup now is the length of contract. We've offered 4 years & he wants 5. Even with 4 we're seriously putting any of our promising junior halves at risk of leaving for greener pastures before his contract expires.
Including tpa, it might be around that
 
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