Why is perth bid so secretive?!

[Pippen94]

Experts on this forum will be saying png is no chance for a team six months after they are admitted

Experts said dolphins were failure despite being close to 2nd biggest team in NRL. Those firehawks would've been massive

 

[MugaB]

Experts said dolphins were failure despite being close to 2nd biggest team in NRL. Those firehawks would've been massive

Firebirds was a shithouse idea...
And there are no fking experts here, the best they have is whinging flogs that are all selfish is wanting their own local backyard team instead of seeing the whole game actually prosper by introducing areas we aren't involved or invested in yet...
This thread and most of the threads on the expansion section are a joke, you all have your opinions, which is fine, but make out like the pathways you've created in your mind are set up for the arlc to follow... I'll tell you now, there isn't enough 1st grade talent to get to 20 teams, let alone 24...
If everyone wanted a local team that expansion should get to, then 24 teams is the amount to keep all you jerk offs happy
18. PNG, arlc need them to boost the player pool, mind you it will take a couple of seasons, but it will filter thru to the rest of the clubs, and that is a great way to boost numbers coz they aren't getting paid marquee money, and can fill 18-30 spots cheaper.
19. Vic2 a derby with the storm, increasing popularity in the 2nd largest city in Australia, and fed by norths who might find out its their ticket back in.
20. Perth no brainer, doubled its population since its last iteration, and had 10k of players when they did, reinstatement of the club, will get numbers back there, and if those who scorn on WA coz its past failings, look at gold coast and its 4 iterations in a RL homeland... no excuse if png players are flooding the player market not to go there
21. Nz2 again a derby with the Warriors, creates popularity in the country, could even push for a 3rd team, all depends who bids first Christchurch, Wellington or Hamilton, knowing the Arlc they pick one close to Auckland and low maintenance, so Hamilton probably gets the nod.
22. SEQ4 easts or west corridor, broncos still might not have an appetite to share the city, so the western corridor seems more likely, easts first bid did not impress the arlc, all talk and no action and they seem to jump onto every ones bandwagon to aquire a licence
23. Adelaide if all goes well and there's an appetite to expand there, and player pool are still overflowing from all teams developingby then, well this might get up, but of course not without a bidder, arlc aren't creating teams, just handing over a licence
24. Nz3 the derby in nz, will show and outcry for more either Wellington or Christchurch or a team that services both like the proposed andrew chalmers "southern orcas"

All these in pretty much that order are achievable, but not unless png is 1st cab off the rank

 

[Canard]

Firebirds was a shithouse idea...
And there are no fking experts here, the best they have is whinging flogs that are all selfish is wanting their own local backyard team instead of seeing the whole game actually prosper by introducing areas we aren't involved or invested in yet...
This thread and most of the threads on the expansion section are a joke, you all have your opinions, which is fine, but make out like the pathways you've created in your mind are set up for the arlc to follow... I'll tell you now, there isn't enough 1st grade talent to get to 20 teams, let alone 24...
If everyone wanted a local team that expansion should get to, then 24 teams is the amount to keep all you jerk offs happy
18. PNG, arlc need them to boost the player pool, mind you it will take a couple of seasons, but it will filter thru to the rest of the clubs, and that is a great way to boost numbers coz they aren't getting paid marquee money, and can fill 18-30 spots cheaper.
19. Vic2 a derby with the storm, increasing popularity in the 2nd largest city in Australia, and fed by norths who might find out its their ticket back in.
20. Perth no brainer, doubled it population since its last iteration, and had 10k of players when they did, reinstatement of the club, will get numbers back there, and if those who scorn on WA coz its past failings, look at gold coast and its 4 iterations in a RL homeland... no excuse if png players are flooding the player market not to go there
21. Nz2 again a derby with the Warriors, creates popularity in the country, could even push for a 3rd team, all depends who bids first Christchurch, Wellington or Hamilton, knowing the Arlc they pick one close to Auckland and low maintenance, so Hamilton probably gets the nod.
22. SEQ4 easts or west corridor, broncos still might not have an appetite to share the city, so the western corridor seems more likely, easts first bid did not impress the arlc, all talk and no action and they seem to jump onto every ones bandwagon to aquire a licence
23. Adelaide if all goes and there's an appetite to expand there, and player pool are still overflowing, well this might get up, but of cource not without a bidder, arlc aren't creating teams, just handing over a licence
24. Nz3 the derby in nz, will show and outcry for more either Wellington or Christchurch or a team that services both like the proposed andrew chalmers "southern orcas"

All these in pretty much that order are achievable, but not unless png is 1st cab off the rank

"You guys are all know it all flogs"

Then proceeds to list his order of preference of teams and reasons why his ideas are the best.

How about the rampant exploitation of stating we can just pay Papauns peanuts to play (why?)

And that it will only take a couple of seasons for PNG to suddenly be able to provide the entire Comp NRL talent? And Vic2? Haha f**k me

You're the biggest flog here if you believe this to be true.

 

[Wb1234]

Experts said dolphins were failure despite being close to 2nd biggest team in NRL. Those firehawks would've been massive

Firebirds was a shithouse idea...
And there are no fking experts here, the best they have is whinging flogs that are all selfish is wanting their own local backyard team instead of seeing the whole game actually prosper by introducing areas we aren't involved or invested in yet...
This thread and most of the threads on the expansion section are a joke, you all have your opinions, which is fine, but make out like the pathways you've created in your mind are set up for the arlc to follow... I'll tell you now, there isn't enough 1st grade talent to get to 20 teams, let alone 24...
If everyone wanted a local team that expansion should get to, then 24 teams is the amount to keep all you jerk offs happy
18. PNG, arlc need them to boost the player pool, mind you it will take a couple of seasons, but it will filter thru to the rest of the clubs, and that is a great way to boost numbers coz they aren't getting paid marquee money, and can fill 18-30 spots cheaper.
19. Vic2 a derby with the storm, increasing popularity in the 2nd largest city in Australia, and fed by norths who might find out its their ticket back in.
20. Perth no brainer, doubled it population since its last iteration, and had 10k of players when they did, reinstatement of the club, will get numbers back there, and if those who scorn on WA coz its past failings, look at gold coast and its 4 iterations in a RL homeland... no excuse if png players are flooding the player market not to go there
21. Nz2 again a derby with the Warriors, creates popularity in the country, could even push for a 3rd team, all depends who bids first Christchurch, Wellington or Hamilton, knowing the Arlc they pick one close to Auckland and low maintenance, so Hamilton probably gets the nod.
22. SEQ4 easts or west corridor, broncos still might not have an appetite to share the city, so the western corridor seems more likely, easts first bid did not impress the arlc, all talk and no action and they seem to jump onto every ones bandwagon to aquire a licence
23. Adelaide if all goes and there's an appetite to expand there, and player pool are still overflowing, well this might get up, but of cource not without a bidder, arlc aren't creating teams, just handing over a licence
24. Nz3 the derby in nz, will show and outcry for more either Wellington or Christchurch or a team that services both like the proposed andrew chalmers "southern orcas"

All these in pretty much that order are achievable, but not unless png is 1st cab off the rank

Says there aren’t enough players for 24 teams then ours up 24 teams

vic 2 will be gws on steroids

 

[MugaB]

"You guys are all know it all flogs"

Then proceeds to list his order of preference of teams and reasons why his ideas are the best.

How about the rampant exploitation of stating we can just pay Papauns peanuts to play (why?)

And that it will only take a couple of seasons for PNG to suddenly be able to provide the entire Comp NRL talent? And Vic2? Haha f**k me

You're the biggest flog here if you believe this to be true.

Like i said everyone has opinions, these are mine, im not saying they all come true, just saying if you don't start with png, then you cant do all or any number of these, unless we just shut up shop at 18 with Brisbane3... which is a terrible idea

 

[MugaB]

Says there aren’t enough players for 24 teams then ours up 24 teams

vic 2 will be gws on steroids

Mate there isn't enough now for 20 teams, if we dont expand to each area like png and perth, to start getting junior players that aren't really part of the existing pathways, we wont be able to expand further, theres only a handful of clubs dedicated to actually developing, add PNG, WA, and NZ2 and your adding a lot to that said player pool this would obviously be over the span of 15-20 years maybe 2 teams per broadcast cycle, if thats still a thing in the future

 

[Canard]

Like i said everyone has opinions, these are mine, im not saying they all come true, just saying if you don't start with png, then you cant do all or any number of these, unless we just shut up shop at 18 with Brisbane3... which is a terrible idea

The Hunters have been in the QCup for a Decade and produced away 1 NRL quality player (Olam). WA has produced more NRL players then PNG.

Why would the presence of an NRL team, change this?

I 100% agree with your view that 20 teams is not realistic or achievable in the the next decade or so, and 22+ is a pipe dream.

 

[Wb1234]

Mate there isn't enough now for 20 teams, if we dont expand to each area like png and perth, to start getting junior players that aren't really part of the existing pathways, we wont be able to expand further, theres only a handful of clubs dedicated to actually developing, add PNG, WA, and NZ2 and your adding a lot to that said player pool this would obviously be over the span of 15-20 years maybe 2 teams per broadcast cycle, if thats still a thing in the future

Vic 3 for the derby vs vic 2 lol

brisbane 3
Png
Nz2

for juniors

 

[MugaB]

The Hunters have been in the QCup for a Decade and produced away 1 NRL quality player (Olam). WA has produced more NRL players then PNG.

Why would the presence of an NRL team, change this?

I 100% agree with your view that 20 teams is not realistic or achievable in the the next decade or so, and 22+ is a pipe dream.

Thats not what I've said... and png will produce more olams if the pathways are present, but theyve never been really, until Melbourne decided to hand pick justin olam from there, and the dolphins just this year taking 3 prospects, the question is if they have their own direct route to 1st grade, not bypass via qcup, till some club decides to look into pngs local competitions... you're closed minded so i wouldn't expect you to understand or even comprehend on how this will benefit the whole league overall, this would be the same deal with perth, although i doubt the talent is similar to that of qcup standard, but a perth team over time will produce

 

[MugaB]

Vic 3 for the derby vs vic 2 lol

brisbane 3
Png
Nz2

for juniors

Brisbane3 juniors? already filters thru the broncos, titans and now the dolphins, any player that comes from Ipswich, Souths, Wynnum, Devils and Redcliffe have a direct pathway to the NRL already, regardless if they have a 1st grade team or not, same could be said of NZ2 with the warriors, but the whole country is 5mil big, so another team or two is probably worth expanding pathways for them, aswell as PNG's 10+mil

 

[Wb1234]

Brisbane3 juniors? already filters thru the broncos, titans and now the dolphins, any player that comes from Ipswich, Souths, Wynnum, and Redcliffe have a direct pathway to the NRL already, regardless if they have a 1st grade team or not, same could be said of NZ2 with the warriors, but the whole country is 5mil big, so another team or two is probably worth expanding pathways for them, aswell as PNG's 10+mil

Two more brisbane teams would send this forum into meltdown

 

[Pippen94]

Firebirds was a shithouse idea...
And there are no fking experts here, the best they have is whinging flogs that are all selfish is wanting their own local backyard team instead of seeing the whole game actually prosper by introducing areas we aren't involved or invested in yet...
This thread and most of the threads on the expansion section are a joke, you all have your opinions, which is fine, but make out like the pathways you've created in your mind are set up for the arlc to follow... I'll tell you now, there isn't enough 1st grade talent to get to 20 teams, let alone 24...
If everyone wanted a local team that expansion should get to, then 24 teams is the amount to keep all you jerk offs happy
18. PNG, arlc need them to boost the player pool, mind you it will take a couple of seasons, but it will filter thru to the rest of the clubs, and that is a great way to boost numbers coz they aren't getting paid marquee money, and can fill 18-30 spots cheaper.
19. Vic2 a derby with the storm, increasing popularity in the 2nd largest city in Australia, and fed by norths who might find out its their ticket back in.
20. Perth no brainer, doubled it population since its last iteration, and had 10k of players when they did, reinstatement of the club, will get numbers back there, and if those who scorn on WA coz its past failings, look at gold coast and its 4 iterations in a RL homeland... no excuse if png players are flooding the player market not to go there
21. Nz2 again a derby with the Warriors, creates popularity in the country, could even push for a 3rd team, all depends who bids first Christchurch, Wellington or Hamilton, knowing the Arlc they pick one close to Auckland and low maintenance, so Hamilton probably gets the nod.
22. SEQ4 easts or west corridor, broncos still might not have an appetite to share the city, so the western corridor seems more likely, easts first bid did not impress the arlc, all talk and no action and they seem to jump onto every ones bandwagon to aquire a licence
23. Adelaide if all goes and there's an appetite to expand there, and player pool are still overflowing, well this might get up, but of cource not without a bidder, arlc aren't creating teams, just handing over a licence
24. Nz3 the derby in nz, will show and outcry for more either Wellington or Christchurch or a team that services both like the proposed andrew chalmers "southern orcas"

All these in pretty much that order are achievable, but not unless png is 1st cab off the rank

Bids before locations. If twiggy is funding Perth - great. TV or fed money paying for nz2 or PNG - great. Easts Tigers seem the most stable & best prepared.

 

[MugaB]

Bids before locations. If twiggy is funding Perth - great. TV or fed money paying for nz2 or PNG - great. Easts Tigers seem the most stable & best prepared.

East tigers is all talk, no action yes they are wealthy but they need a better bid runner, richo and his bro aren't those guys, richo comes in fixes them up he does rebuilds, not inceptions

 

[Canard]

Thats not what I've said... and png will produce more olams if the pathways are present, but theyve never been really, until Melbourne decided to hand pick justin olam from there, and the dolphins just this year taking 3 prospects, the question is if they have their own direct route to 1st grade, not bypass via qcup, till some club decides to look into pngs local competitions... you're closed minded so i wouldn't expect you to understand or even comprehend on how this will benefit the whole league overall, this woupd be the same deal with perth, although i doubt the talent is similar to that of qcup standard, but a perth team over time will produce

Olam was a product of the Hunters, not hand picked by the Storm.

Why have so few Hunters made it to the NRL compared to the rest of the QCup?

What 'pathways" would change?

 

[MugaB]

Two more brisbane teams would send this forum into meltdown

Unnecessary anyways, expansion is to increase the player pool, the players are the assets, not dots on a map

 

[Wb1234]

Fiji pathways to develop nrl players

 

[Pippen94]

East tigers is all talk, no action yes they are wealthy but they need a better bid runner, richo and his bro aren't those guys, richo comes in fixes them up he does rebuilds, not inceptions

Richo is gone to Sydney. Firehawks is shi.. I agree

 

[MugaB]

Fiji pathways to develop nrl players

This should be its own thread "Fiji Silktails preparing a bid"

 

[Centy Coast]

Same as any team, of any code, in any city.
Thankfully nothing to do with politics

A WA team spreads the game throughout its own Country, Melbourne entered in 1998, yet they have only just started their own development pathways in the State of VIC.
Players like Slater, Smith, Cronk have come through their system, should they have ignored Melbourne because rugby league hasn’t taken off in VIC after 25 years ?.
Pippen94 would rather see Aussie tax dollars go to another Country.
WA will take off with a league team, they have dominated the interstate series against VIC, SA and NT over the years.
I’d much rather see a WA team in the NRL than a team from another Country, Bears or no Bears, Australian made.

 

[Wb1234]

A WA team spreads the game throughout its own Country, Melbourne entered in 1998, yet they have only just started their own development pathways in the State of VIC.
Players like Slater, Smith, Cronk have come through their system, should they have ignored Melbourne because rugby league hasn’t taken off in VIC after 25 years ?.
Pippen94 would rather see Aussie tax dollars go to another Country.
WA will take off with a league team, they have dominated the interstate series against VIC, SA and NT over the years.
I’d much rather see a WA team in the NRL than a team from another Country, Bears or no Bears, Australian made.

Nz warriors