Poupou Escobar
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He was in demand and we wanted to keep him. The PO represented minimal risk for us because it would've been very cheap. The higher risk options are the ones for big money (like Moses and Drown).
The fact two of them left rather than activating their POs means they had zero negative impact. They only hurt the club when the player activates the option and isn't worth it. Examples are Dunster and probably Matterson. These are the POs that worked out poorly for us. The POs for Moses, Drown and Talagi helped us keep them as long as we did.
Phil Gould said he would only give a PO to a youngster, showing that these decisions are never as simple as footy fans think they are.
Gee it’s not like the Storm to find ways to keep players. Remember when they stopped cheating the cap and then went on to win another two premierships?!? Makes you wonder why they risked cheating the cap in the first place.
Because he knew Fogarty wasn’t going to be retained. We were never going to push Moses or Drown out of the club, so we have less to spend on backups, and less of a guaranteed pathway.
I think many would disagree with the relevance of you continuing to discuss them, now our club has ruled them out for the foreseeable...
We can... but should you continue to speculate, about POs that no longer exist - or will no longer exist once Lane and Penisni confirm they are activating, rejecting or replacing theirs...
Many appear to disagree. I for one believe your discussion of POs is far from exciting...
Just because his contract was up doesn’t mean they wanted to get rid of him. It’s his age that would be the main factor, not his contract alone. Fogarty can kick but he is small and slow, and might lack the physicality to defend at NRL level before the season has finished.
No, because he had better players in front of him and it could’ve been years before he was better than Moses or Drown. Jamal Fogarty is ordinary at best, and turns 32 this year. Sanders might overtake him by the end of the season. As Moses declines, Sanders will overtake him too but that could be years away.
He's f**king faster and stronger than you merkin....
We have let go so many players we hardly need POs. @hindy111 reckons we must have heaps of cap space.
Because we have been discussing the recent 2019-2022 period where we were far more successful. It would be good to understand why that was, and what has changed since. Our more recent (2023-2025) lack of success can't just be because we've stopped offering POs.
They are allowed to disagree. This place would be even more boring if we all agreed with each other.
Brown is leaving because he was off contract, not because he had a PO. Mahoney, Niukore, Papali'i, remember them? They didn't leave because they had player options. And if they had them it wouldn't have mattered.
No doubt. About 20 years ago I played Oztag against another small, slow merkin in Jason Taylor. He was about my size and surprisingly quick compared to us regular deadshits. I also played against Wes Patten and he was so quick I could barely turn my head in time to see him step past me. Luke Goodwin was pretty quick as well.
And without it he would've had a new contract offer from us.
That's because they accepted their offers quickly. The Knights obviously gave Drown a longer deadline so he had longer to decide. If there was no PO do you think the Knights or Eels would have made their deadlines shorter? We were obviously happy with round ten, which is why we agreed to it in the first place. You're acting like if there was no PO we would've told him to re-sign by November or f**k off. You'll note he didn't wait to round ten to make his decision.
