Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

[bazza]

Or it could have been moved off to a Siding, as there are a few of those on the network.

I guess the only thing to worry about is the safety of the passengers.

I would guess that the safest thing would be to empty the train at the next stop and then leave this one going with no passengers

 

[Suitman]

Geez, 8 Phillip street is looking stunning.
They are now starting work on the old church which was the Bavarian Beer Cafe.
Ignore the piece of shit Lennox tower in the background.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Geez, 8 Phillip street is looking stunning.
They are now starting work on the old church which was the Bavarian Beer Cafe.
Ignore the piece of shit Lennox tower in the background.


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Had many great nights at the old Bavarian Bier Cafe in Parramatta in my early 20s.

It's actually a shame that is gone.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Back to the stadium rebuild

What's the go with the big coming attractions board. It worked for 8 months, started to glitch and now its been turned off for years

 

[Suitman]

Back to the stadium rebuild

What's the go with the big coming attractions board. It worked for 8 months, started to glitch and now its been turned off for years

Yes, that screen was a cheap out when the stadium was being built. A huge disappointment.

On another note and unrelated to your post Mits, a great interview with John Graham by the ABC re the Metro "open door" issue.
He ultimately doesn't paint a great light on the Sydney Trains system and their reliability, nor the RTBU, and that is from a Labor minister.
Who would have ever thunk it that Labor would become frustrated over their antics as well?

 

[the phantom menace]

Seems like some people think Labor must be always in the pocket of every particular union...? Whereas experience and an open mind shows that is hardly the case.

 

[forward pass]

Back to the stadium rebuild

What's the go with the big coming attractions board. It worked for 8 months, started to glitch and now its been turned off for years

It was actually one of the main features of the stadium when it opened. It was stunning. Seems like it can't be fixed - even though my taxes paid for it. Piss poor.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

It was actually one of the main features of the stadium when it opened. It was stunning. Seems like it can't be fixed - even though my taxes paid for it. Piss poor.

Funny thing is I was driving past yesterday. It was all lit up with test patterns and characters.

 

[forward pass]

Geez, 8 Phillip street is looking stunning.
They are now starting work on the old church which was the Bavarian Beer Cafe.
Ignore the piece of shit Lennox tower in the background.


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Bit hard to ignore that.

 

[Eelogical]

Funny thing is I was driving past yesterday. It was all lit up with test patterns and characters.

Yes. The lights were on and nobody was home.

 

[Eelogical]

Any news on our Centre Of Excellence?

 

[Suitman]

Metro has been overwhelmingly successful. Look what happens when decent, efficient, reliable public transport is provided.
Exceeding 6 million trips a month now.


Almost a quarter of a million trips per weekday. Loads of Sydney Rail passengers are interchanging from snail rail to Metro at the two interchange stations at Epping and Chatswood. I wonder why?
Passenger numbers will dwarf anything else in the country when the Bankstown extension of this line opens.







Trains are packed on these Sydney metro stops in the morning peak

ByMatt O'Sullivan



City-bound metro trains pulling out of Crows Nest station on Sydney’s M1 line are more than 80 per cent full on average during the morning rush hour, just seven months after the rail extension under central Sydney opened.
While patronage continues to grow, boosting the frequency to one service every three minutes – from every four minutes – in both directions during peak periods would ease crowding but require the state government to buy an extra 14 trains.

Commuters pack a CBD-bound metro train during the morning peak last week. Credit:Sam Mooy

New figures show the greatest passenger loads occurring last month on weekdays between 8am and 9am were on trains departing Crows Nest station. They averaged 82 per cent of total capacity, making Crows Nest the busiest point on the M1 line between Tallawong in the north-west and Sydenham in the south.
It was followed by trains pulling out of Chatswood, which averaged 77 per cent of capacity; Victoria Cross in North Sydney, at 76 per cent; and North Ryde, at 69 per cent, Sydney Metro figures show.

Total capacity on metro services is defined as 1152 passengers per train, which equates to all 378 seats being taken and four people standing per square metre. The government agency said about 30 services had reached full capacity last month, all of which ran between 8am and 9am.
Sydney Metro chief executive Peter Regan said the highest loadings on the M1 line were on southbound services in the morning from Chatswood to Crows Nest and Victoria Cross.
“Some of those trains are full in the AM peak,” he said. “We’re approaching 250,000 [trips on the M1 line] on a weekday, and it’s still growing.”

Passengers squeeze on a metro train at Crows Nest station during the morning peak.Credit:Sam Mooy

Regan said more people than expected were switching from double-deck trains to metro services at Epping station to travel into the CBD on the M1 line, instead of staying on the T9 Northern line via Strathfield. “That’s a movement that’s much higher than expected,” he said.


Commuters were gradually adjusting their patterns during the morning and evening peaks by travelling earlier or later, Regan said.
The latest figures show metro trains pulling out of Epping station averaged 67 per cent capacity between 8am and 9am on weekdays last month. Trains departing Macquarie University and Macquarie Park stations were at 66 and 67 per cent, respectively.

Asked whether Sydney Metro was considering an increase to train capacity, Regan said it would closely monitor patronage and travel behaviours when the final stage of the M1 line, from Sydenham to Bankstown, opened next year.
“We will keep that under review,” he said. “At this stage, we will continue to bed it down and keep the reliability at the level it has been, which has been extraordinarily high.”

Regan said other changes that could be made in the longer term included four-minute frequencies throughout the day or adding an extra two carriages to trains, up from six-car sets at present.
Outside morning and evening peaks, of 6.30am to 10am and 3pm to 7pm respectively, metro trains run every five minutes from 10am to 3pm, and every 10 minutes at other times.

Part of the 45-strong train fleet for the M1 metro line between Tallawong and Sydenham.Credit:Nick Moir

The agency calculates an extra 14 trains would be required if the frequency of services were boosted to one every three minutes during weekday peaks, though it would depend on operating patterns along the M1 line, which has a 45-strong train fleet.
Regan expects a “significant jump” on northbound trains from Sydenham to the CBD on weekday mornings once the final section of the M1 line opens next year.

After the final 13-kilometre section opens, Sydney Metro forecasts about 19,000 trips will be taken between Bankstown and Central stations from 8am to 9am, and about 13,000 between Bankstown and Sydenham during that period.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...1-billion-metro-line-to-sydney-s-new-international-airport-20250211-p5lb7o.html
The entire line from Bankstown to Tallawong is predicted to have about additional? 49,000 trips during the busiest hour of the weekday.

 

[Suitman]

 

[the phantom menace]

Metro has been overwhelmingly successful. Look what happens when decent, efficient, reliable public transport is provided.
Exceeding 6 million trips a month now.

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Almost a quarter of a million trips per weekday. Loads of Sydney Rail passengers are interchanging from snail rail to Metro at the two interchange stations at Epping and Chatswood. I wonder why?
Passenger numbers will dwarf anything else in the country when the Bankstown extension of this line opens.

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Trains are packed on these Sydney metro stops in the morning peak

ByMatt O'Sullivan

...

Total capacity on metro services is defined as 1152 passengers per train, which equates to all 378 seats being taken and four people standing per square metre. The government agency said about 30 services had reached full capacity last month, all of which ran between 8am and 9am.

Full capacity sounds... real comfy. Does four people per square metre mean each gets just a 50cmx50cm space to stand in?

Might put some "happy ending" massage parlours out of business, with that level of skin to skin closeness.

 

[senior]

Any news on our Centre Of Excellence?

Moses said the players will visit the COE on the bye round

 

[Suitman]

 

[Suitman]

Full capacity sounds... real comfy. Does four people per square metre mean each gets just a 50cmx50cm space to stand in?

Might put some "happy ending" massage parlours out of business, with that level of skin to skin closeness.

Don't continue to be such a dick.
You've lived overseas and experienced and used massive transport systems like the Tube in London. You completely understand how crowded these systems can get, and you also know how much capacity a proper metro/underground system can provide. How many more passengers a system like this can move per hour. How many cars it can take off the road if provided. Sydney is actually finally catching up with a proper rail system. Well, it was.
Passengers don't really give a shite about crowded trains if they can get to their destination faster and more reliably.

Sydney Trains measures double decker standee capacity at about 2.5 ppsm because of their door/stair's constraints. The total functional capacity of an 8-car suburban train is only about 40 people more than a 6-car metro train. An 8-car metro train could functionally carry about 300 more than an 8-car double deck.
It's funny you are so against such a superior system of rail transport in Sydney.

 

[the phantom menace]

Don't continue to be such a dick.

Play the content in the post, not play the man.

50cm-50cm is a pretty squishy space allowance, when calculating full capacity of a carriage (in my opinion). Less than I've experienced (comfortably) in any overseas mass transit system.

Sydney Trains measures double decker standee capacity at about 2.5 ppsm because of their door/stair's constraints.

The calculations you gave for the Metro carriage seem to be calculated at 4ppsm standees... which seems a little squishy (in my opinion). Regardless of not having the same door/stair constraints as a double decker heavy rail carriage.

The total functional capacity of an 8-car suburban train is only about 40 people more than a 6-car metro train. An 8-car metro train could functionally carry about 300 more than an 8-car double deck.

It's funny you are so against such a superior system of rail transport in Sydney.

I'm just making a comment about 50cmx50cm limit for one person standing space, at full capacity. I'm against that, and if you measure the breadth of your shoulders (or other body dimension) so should you be.

 

[Suitman]

I'm just making a comment about 50cmx50cm limit for one person standing space, at full capacity. I'm against that, and if you measure the breadth of your shoulders (or other body dimension) so should you be.

You do realise that passengers stand sideways to each other and that doesn't come into play?
Have you ever been on the Tokyo subway? I'm sure you've been on the London Tube at peak hour.
Sydney Metro is a park picnic by comparison, but please, keep denying it's success, because it was built by "the other mob".

 

[the phantom menace]

You do realise that passengers stand sideways to each other and that doesn't come into play?
Have you ever been on the Tokyo subway? I'm sure you've been on the London Tube at peak hour.
Sydney Metro is a park picnic by comparison, but please, keep denying it's success, because it was built by "the other mob".

I'm not talking about or denying "success", touchy. I'm just saying that 50cmx50cm isn't a lot of space in Sydney Metro's carriage capacity calculations.

Sideways... sure my shoulders would fit, but what about my expanding gut in the other direction? And what about women and their breasts, which usually point in the opposite direction to their hip width?

My criticism has nothing to do about which "mob" built it - my comments about 50cm spaces are not politicised. It's the current Sydney Metro leadership (reporting to the current state government) making these capacity calls, which maybe you didn't realise?

But you do you - you do seem very (overly?) agitated by any potential constructive criticism of any aspect of the Metro, and have been for quite some time in plain sight.