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[Gary Gutful]

And Bruce's early 1980s acoustic album.

Ohhh, I like this.

Bob Dylan - Empire Burlesque

 

[Gary Gutful]

Chinese Democracy

 

[bazza]

I’ve farted more coal than the UK could muster. Silly comparison.

that is the point. The stance on renewables/coal is based on who is funding them - not on whether they are left/right/conservative

 

[the phantom menace]

Chinese Democracy

An album shit list hall of fame member.

Pink Floyd - Final Cut

 

[Gronk]

I’ve farted more coal than the UK could muster. Silly comparison.

 

[RustedonEel]

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Interesting

 

[Gary Gutful]

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We will eventually go the same way.

Big difference between us and the UK is that they started running out of cheap supplies of coal and had resorted to imports for a period.

Yes - they have been better at setting energy policy and phasing out coal than Aus, but context is important.

 

[RustedonEel]

We will eventually go the same way.

Big difference between us and the UK is that they started running out of cheap supplies of coal and had resorted to imports for a period.

Yes - they have been better at setting energy policy and phasing out coal than Aus, but context is important.

And they are increasing their nuclear power generation. Something our Luddites cannot understand.

 

[the phantom menace]

Wow, postal/pre-poll votes really f**ked Adam Bandt and his giant Green toothbrush!

They seem to be going 63% to Labor, and there were 10,000 of them - enough to punt the jet-setting leader from his own seat.

 

[Gronk]

Interesting

I think it's foolish to compare Australia and the UK, as it would Namibia and Sweden.

The UK have their own issues. The doesn't shine and their transition to clean energy has been f**ked over by Putin, the guy with the gas. It says as much in their press release.

Government rips up rules to fire-up nuclear power

More nuclear power plants will be approved across England and Wales as the Prime Minister slashes red tape to get Britain building - as part of his Plan for Change.

www.gov.uk

With the cost of energy paramount, why would you ignore a cheaper, cleaner alternative ?

The question of nuclear in Australia’s electricity sector

In Australia's transition to net zero emissions, the electricity sector has a major role to play. But does nuclear power have a place in our future grid?

www.csiro.au

As this lady explains, nuclear fits some countries. She is not against nuclear. It's just a dumb idea for Australia right now. I never say never either. Maybe (after they are invented and) when you can buy a SMR like you can a Boeing A380 and they are safe, Australia will be able to use them to compliment their energy mix, but let's stop with the unnecessary bruhaha. The Australian people have sent a pretty clear message on Saturday.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Wow, postal/pre-poll votes really f**ked Adam Bandt and his giant Green toothbrush!

They seem to be going 63% to Labor, and there were 10,000 of them - enough to punt the jet-setting leader from his own seat.

Bye bye Bandt!

 

[Gronk]

 

[bazza]

And they are increasing their nuclear power generation. Something our Luddites cannot understand.

yes - their newest reactor is over budget and late

 

[bazza]

Wow, postal/pre-poll votes really f**ked Adam Bandt and his giant Green toothbrush!

They seem to be going 63% to Labor, and there were 10,000 of them - enough to punt the jet-setting leader from his own seat.

Also was a redistribution of the seat of Melbourne

 

[Gronk]

And they are increasing their nuclear power generation. Something our Luddites cannot understand.

Interesting. Who are the luddites in this country?

 

[Delboy]

Easiest solution, retro fit at govt expense HELE to current coal powered while the move to renewables is considered and maintain power supply and base load. Without massive subsidies and new poles and wires which will cost possibly more than nuclear , we need to return to reliable and cheaper power.Gas of course into the supply and now we hopefully get the zealots Bowen and Bandt moved on, there is a chance to see sense and reflect on what is needed.

Can’t stand back and watch us continue to increase prices etc while the rest of the world has a better strategy compared to our contribution of 1.4 %, of global greenhouse , looking good and patting yourself on the back to virtue signal doesn’t help the economic outlook.

 

[Gronk]

Easiest solution, retro fit at govt expense HELE to current coal powered while the move to renewables is considered and maintain power supply and base load. Without massive subsidies and new poles and wires which will cost possibly more than nuclear , we need to return to reliable and cheaper power.Gas of course into the supply and now we hopefully get the zealots Bowen and Bandt moved on, there is a chance to see sense and reflect on what is needed.

Can’t stand back and watch us continue to increase prices etc while the rest of the world has a better strategy compared to our contribution of 1.4 %, of global greenhouse , looking good and patting yourself on the back to virtue signal doesn’t help the economic outlook.

Whilst you are "considering the move" the country has already moved.

We will be 82% renewables by 2030.

https://www.dcceew.gov.au/energy/renewable

The last coal power station in Australia will be closed in 2038.

'Expensive, improbable': The case against extending coal-fired power

Australia's coal-fired power stations are unreliable and driving up electricity prices, according to a new report out today, on the eve of a federal election campaign in which the viability of keeping coal plants going longer will be a key focus.

www.abc.net.au

This is the state of power generation right now.

 

[the phantom menace]

Whilst you are "considering the move" the country has already moved.

We will be 82% renewables by 2030.

https://www.dcceew.gov.au/energy/renewable

The last coal power station in Australia will be closed in 2038.

'Expensive, improbable': The case against extending coal-fired power

Australia's coal-fired power stations are unreliable and driving up electricity prices, according to a new report out today, on the eve of a federal election campaign in which the viability of keeping coal plants going longer will be a key focus.

www.abc.net.au

This is the state of power generation right now.

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All very awesome!

Glad the government is using the mandate to drag the dinosaurs into the future.

 

[Twizzle]

I cant see us being 100% renewable at any stage, unless we invest heavily in power storage and to do that we will need to greatly improve our infrastructure to get power to the storage facility.

 

[MarkInTheStands]

Easiest solution, retro fit at govt expense HELE to current coal powered while the move to renewables is considered and maintain power supply and base load. Without massive subsidies and new poles and wires which will cost possibly more than nuclear , we need to return to reliable and cheaper power.Gas of course into the supply and now we hopefully get the zealots Bowen and Bandt moved on, there is a chance to see sense and reflect on what is needed.

Can’t stand back and watch us continue to increase prices etc while the rest of the world has a better strategy compared to our contribution of 1.4 %, of global greenhouse , looking good and patting yourself on the back to virtue signal doesn’t help the economic outlook.

40% of Australia's power supply is currently renewable.

The current government has approved more power projects over the last 3 years that any the previous government did in their 9 years.

In 2020 the "Gas powered recovery" was announced. When it was, gas was a $4.20 a Kg on election days 2022 gas was $34.75 a Kg. Gas is what is keeping energy prices high, as power companies charge the highest prices for the power they get from all different power sources.