Sharks game

[Gomarchin]

We got smashed on Anzac Day last year and backed it with a 20-10 loss to the sharks at sharks park.

Nothing has changed and if anything I think itll get worse as the season progresses.

 

[bathtime]

Wow this thread is FMD boring. Sharks got thrashed as well so it is about who has better resilence. Luckily most of this forum are not playing.

 

[Dragonslayer]

So, I'll take a stab at our team list Tuesday (my edition):

1. Gutho
2. Lawson -------> Finau
3. Suli
4. Holmes --------> Lawson
5. Sloan (would really love Ramsey here right now)
6. LKT
7. Glover (I'm tempted to include Reed)
8. JDB
9. Cook
10. Klem
11. Luciano
12. Tsougranis --------> Halangahu
13. Stewart

14. Lids
15. Coucho
16. LPT
17. Halangahu ----------> Tsougranis

18. Kyle

A few changes around whether Val gets selected for SOO2 or not. I would persist with Lawson, he's shown me enough effort to warrant ongoing selection.

Glover and LKT have played together in Koe Cup, so they are familiar with each others play. As I commented above, I'm tempted to throw the keys to young Reed. If he's the future, then let's see what's under the hood. He's a very smart footballer and it would be baptism by fire.

Edge forwards, well the cupboard is bare. Luciano has to start and look to play almost 80 minutes. However, young Halangahu can play lock, which could shift Stweart out if LL needs a break. Nick T has shown enough that he can also play at a high ceiling and can cover centre as well as edge forward.

Kyle at 18 would hopefully send him a message that his game isn't up to scratch, and watching from the sidelines whether we are winning or losing may just tune the eyebrows in the right direction.

Yeah, I've thrown a lot of 'kids' in to really face the music, with a possible 3 debutantes, but I feel we're out of options with injuries and possible loss of Val to Origin. If he is selected, then Glover or Reed would take over the kicking duties (Imo Reed is the better kicker).

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on this week's team. Of course it's pie in the sky stuff, and we know it will look nothing like this, but I just think it's a far more balanced side, barring the inexperience.

 

[bathtime]

Not sure why it seems to be a binary one or the other - guess it depends what side of the fence you’re on

For me, it’s on both Flanno and Young. Flanno should have got them up for it. Should have also been able to make a positive impact at half time.
Then Deano’s defensive systems are not holding up.

Let’s see how they respond next week. At least show some heart.

If we had played like the Dolphins we'd be stoked. They were a bit unstoppable. We allowed that by standing back in defence, but like the roosters game, it a bit like what happened there?

 

[hewi]

So, I'll take a stab at our team list Tuesday (my edition):

1. Gutho
2. Lawson -------> Finau
3. Suli
4. Holmes --------> Lawson
5. Sloan (would really love Ramsey here right now)
6. LKT
7. Glover (I'm tempted to include Reed)
8. JDB
9. Cook
10. Klem
11. Luciano
12. Tsougranis --------> Halangahu
13. Stewart

14. Lids
15. Coucho
16. LPT
17. Halangahu ----------> Tsougranis

18. Kyle

A few changes around whether Val gets selected for SOO2 or not. I would persist with Lawson, he's shown me enough effort to warrant ongoing selection.

Glover and LKT have played together in Koe Cup, so they are familiar with each others play. As I commented above, I'm tempted to throw the keys to young Reed. If he's the future, then let's see what's under the hood. He's a very smart footballer and it would be baptism by fire.

Edge forwards, well the cupboard is bare. Luciano has to start and look to play almost 80 minutes. However, young Halangahu can play lock, which could shift Stweart out if LL needs a break. Nick T has shown enough that he can also play at a high ceiling and can cover centre as well as edge forward.

Kyle at 18 would hopefully send him a message that his game isn't up to scratch, and watching from the sidelines whether we are winning or losing may just tune the eyebrows in the right direction.

Yeah, I've thrown a lot of 'kids' in to really face the music, with a possible 3 debutantes, but I feel we're out of options with injuries and possible loss of Val to Origin. If he is selected, then Glover or Reed would take over the kicking duties (Imo Reed is the better kicker).

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on this week's team. Of course it's pie in the sky stuff, and we know it will look nothing like this, but I just think it's a far more balanced side, barring the inexperience.

As Ilias was named in the initial extended team and then dropped off I think it’s more likely he would get a recall, the big question is will the prodigal son get dropped? He should.

 

[R&WTILLIDIE]

No halves, no leadership, no defence, no clue.
Same as it ever was,
Same as it ever was,
Since 2012.

And you may find yourself on the hill, at shark park, with a beer in your hand…
And you may ask yourself, "Well, how did I get here?"

 

[VodkaSaint]

Hoe Does Shane Flannagan think he is going to get a contract extension dragging his son around .
Me Thinks Deano will get the next gig!

 

[Crescent dragon]

Hoe Does Shane Flannagan think he is going to get a contract extension dragging his son around .
Me Thinks Deano will get the next gig!

I’d be chasing Willie Peters from SL. He has a very good reputation as a coach these days, just won a Challenge Cup I think.

 

[RedVee]

As Ilias was named in the initial extended team and then dropped off I think it’s more likely he would get a recall, the big question is will the prodigal son get dropped? He should.

If Val is picked for Origin then my guess is that saves Kyle. For goal kicking.

 

[blacksafake]

You will flog us. We are an embarrassment all round.

You obviously haven’t seen us play.
Anyway we have a habit of playing teams/players into form

 

[maestro1]

Watch Nicho Hynes have the game of his life against us.
So happy to see Warriors keep winning but it does little to help us.

And that's the thing. While we aren't the worst team in the comp we are at the will of other teams.

If we employ Dean Young's limp, static defensive line, Hynes, Nikora, Trindall, Ramien and co will make us pay in the same way the Dolphins did. We need to get in their faces, hit and stick, use shoulders rather than arm grab, stop the offload, put them on their backs, slow the play the ball down. I re- watched the Dolphins game and our wrestle was non-existent. The Dolphins were either running for gaps, off loading or hitting the ground on elbows and knees and bouncing up to play the ball. Then JMK, Katoa, and Nikorima were attacking a retreating defensive line. It was an unstoppable avalanche. We are afraid to test the ref like all the other teams do. We are scared of giving a penalty. Most of the good defensive teams challenge the ref to keep penalise them. The wrestle constantly, dance with the tackled player, move them sideways. Backwards and spin them and turtle them and force the ref to either do something or let it slide. We are the worst wrestlers and this is ESSENTIAL to avoid a retreating defensive line. This is why so many halfbacks have Man of the match performances against us. Think Cleary at WIN last year, Walker in last year's ANZAC DAY clash. Sandon Smith this year, Katoa this year and last year. Sexton in round 1. Humphrey's against South's, Dylan Brown against Parra, Metcalf for the Warriors at WIN. We are a opposition's spine wet dream.
We need to be brutal, force the ref to either maintain the penalties or let it slide and back our brutal defence.

 

[Redvdragons21]

If we employ Dean Young's limp, static defensive line, Hynes, Nikora, Trindall, Ramien and co will make us pay in the same way the Dolphins did. We need to get in their faces, hit and stick, use shoulders rather than arm grab, stop the offload, put them on their backs, slow the play the ball down. I re- watched the Dolphins game and our wrestle was non-existent. The Dolphins were either running for gaps, off loading or hitting the ground on elbows and knees and bouncing up to play the ball. Then JMK, Katoa, and Nikorima were attacking a retreating defensive line. It was an unstoppable avalanche. We are afraid to test the ref like all the other teams do. We are scared of giving a penalty. Most of the good defensive teams challenge the ref to keep penalise them. The wrestle constantly, dance with the tackled player, move them sideways. Backwards and spin them and turtle them and force the ref to either do something or let it slide. We are the worst wrestlers and this is ESSENTIAL to avoid a retreating defensive line. This is why so many halfbacks have Man of the match performances against us. Think Cleary at WIN last year, Walter in last year's ANZAC DAY clash. Sandon Smith this year, Katoa this year and last year. Sexton in round 1. Humphrey's against South's, Dylan Brown against Parra. We are a opposition's spine wet dream.
We need to be brutal, force the ref to either maintain the penalties or let it slide and back our brutal defence.

We will be lucky to win another game this year, that 50 point loss has completely destroyed the playing group. There is no coming back from that

 

[maestro1]

The other worry is that the journos are putting a spotlight on the Sharks defence. This is what Fitzgibbon prides himself on. Watch the Sharks defence improve tenfold this week.

 

[JamesRustle]

So, I'll take a stab at our team list Tuesday (my edition):

1. Gutho
2. Lawson -------> Finau
3. Suli
4. Holmes --------> Lawson
5. Sloan (would really love Ramsey here right now)
6. LKT
7. Glover (I'm tempted to include Reed)
8. JDB
9. Cook
10. Klem
11. Luciano
12. Tsougranis --------> Halangahu
13. Stewart

14. Lids
15. Coucho
16. LPT
17. Halangahu ----------> Tsougranis

18. Kyle

A few changes around whether Val gets selected for SOO2 or not. I would persist with Lawson, he's shown me enough effort to warrant ongoing selection.

Glover and LKT have played together in Koe Cup, so they are familiar with each others play. As I commented above, I'm tempted to throw the keys to young Reed. If he's the future, then let's see what's under the hood. He's a very smart footballer and it would be baptism by fire.

Edge forwards, well the cupboard is bare. Luciano has to start and look to play almost 80 minutes. However, young Halangahu can play lock, which could shift Stweart out if LL needs a break. Nick T has shown enough that he can also play at a high ceiling and can cover centre as well as edge forward.

Kyle at 18 would hopefully send him a message that his game isn't up to scratch, and watching from the sidelines whether we are winning or losing may just tune the eyebrows in the right direction.

Yeah, I've thrown a lot of 'kids' in to really face the music, with a possible 3 debutantes, but I feel we're out of options with injuries and possible loss of Val to Origin. If he is selected, then Glover or Reed would take over the kicking duties (Imo Reed is the better kicker).

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on this week's team. Of course it's pie in the sky stuff, and we know it will look nothing like this, but I just think it's a far more balanced side, barring the inexperience.

I've seen the whiteboard that Flanno uses for his team selection process...

1. TBC
2. TBC
3. TBC
4. TBC
5. TBC
6. TBC
7. Kyle Flanagan
8. TBC
9. TBC
10. TBC
11. TBC
12. TBC
13. TBC

14. TBC
15. TBC
16. TBC
17. TBC

 

[maestro1]

We will be lucky to win another game this year, that 50 point loss has completely destroyed the playing group. There is no coming back from that

That is SO UNLIKELY.

 

[maestro1]

Time to piss Lawrie off for good. Sele is ready. Hopefully it is now Sele time in the Red V. He has been so unlucky, but he is the exact inclusion our pack needs.

 

[DJDL]

I agree. Sharks are a fuggen disgraceful bunch of mentally weak players who put in the bare minimum on the field....

This is what happens when the team list is carved in stone, as it is with Fitzy.

You guys will get a look at your "marquee" signing this week.

He'll be easy to spot.
He comes on in the 53rd minute.
Right around the time you'll be thinking to yourself "Talakai's starting to cause us some problems".
That's when SFB* replaces him with Atkinson.
And that'll be the end of anything enterprising the Sharks offer.

If you're not sure what Atkinson looks like, he'll be the one sporting the game day haircut and mustache trim.

* Shit For Brains

 

[Redvdragons21]

That is SO UNLIKELY.

How’s it unlikely? Season is officially over. Hope the sharks put 60 on us. I want Flanagan sacked. Blow up the roster I say.

 

[Redvdragons21]

Lol

This is what happens when the team list is carved in stone, as it is with Fitzy.

You guys will get a look at your "marquee" signing this week.

He'll be easy to spot.
He comes on in the 53rd minute.
Right around the time you'll be thinking to yourself "Talakai's starting to cause us some problems".
That's when SFB* replaces him with Atkinson.
And that'll be the end of anything enterprising the Sharks offer.

If you're not sure what Atkinson looks like, he'll be the one sporting the game day haircut and mustache trim.

* Shit For Brains

 

[DJDL]

Lol

If only I were joking...