Galvin v the Tigers

[Yoda]

Was very poor last night, however I blame the Dogs more then him. They've made their mark on the comp the last 2 years through intensity and discipline. Now they've given the keys to their castle to a 19 year old who plays to no structure whilst moving their entire team around to accommodate him.

Surely throwing him into nsw cup for 4 weeks, then slowly bring him into the 17 would have been the go.

Then we would be having exactly the same conversation in 4 weeks time. Best to rip the bandaid off and get him into the 17 (and probably the starting 13) sooner rather than later.

 

[Marshall_magic]

Has there ever been a scenario where a player, brought into the side mid-season, and put in one of key spine positions, has actually helped the on-field performance?

I mean maybe you could argue Soward in 2007, as he helped the Dragons go from 14th to 13th, but I feel like generally they have more of a negative impact historically, especially if the team was successful before the change.

Galvin, even if there wasn't all the baggage surrounding his departure from the Tigers & even if the Bulldogs weren't travelling as well beforehand, was always going to be up against it.

Going through premiers there is Brett Finch to the Storm in 09 (ironically from their grand final opponents). He was probably about the 16th best player in that Storm side and ranks even lower on the quality of bloke rankings. He did allow them to move GI to the centres again though.

Although you can disregard all of this when you realise they had a perfectly good James Maloney playing reserve grade.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Has there ever been a scenario where a player, brought into the side mid-season, and put in one of key spine positions, has actually helped the on-field performance?

I mean maybe you could argue Soward in 2007, as he helped the Dragons go from 14th to 13th, but I feel like generally they have more of a negative impact historically, especially if the team was successful before the change.

Galvin, even if there wasn't all the baggage surrounding his departure from the Tigers & even if the Bulldogs weren't travelling as well beforehand, was always going to be up against it.

Surely the baggage stuff is all over-blown. He wanted to leave the Tigers; why would the Dogs care.

Fitting him directly into the team and disrupting a winning outfit; definitely proving to be an issue.

 

[yakstorm]

Surely the baggage stuff is all over-blown. He wanted to leave the Tigers; why would the Dogs care.

Fitting him directly into the team and disrupting a winning outfit; definitely proving to be an issue.

The baggage stuff is definitely overblown, although it unfortunately just adds unnecessary noise and media scrutiny.

 

[Wb1234]

Has there ever been a scenario where a player, brought into the side mid-season, and put in one of key spine positions, has actually helped the on-field performance?

I mean maybe you could argue Soward in 2007, as he helped the Dragons go from 14th to 13th, but I feel like generally they have more of a negative impact historically, especially if the team was successful before the change.

Galvin, even if there wasn't all the baggage surrounding his departure from the Tigers & even if the Bulldogs weren't travelling as well beforehand, was always going to be up against it.

Not for a team coming first

This is such an unnecessary gamble by Gus

He’s got nobody to blame if as likely this details their season

Sexton and Mahoney were doing good jobs for them

Gus could be playing a key part in another Penrith premiership

 

[yakstorm]

Going through premiers there is Brett Finch to the Storm in 09 (ironically from their grand final opponents). He was probably about the 16th best player in that Storm side and ranks even lower on the quality of bloke rankings. He did allow them to move GI to the centres again though.

Although you can disregard all of this when you realise they had a perfectly good James Maloney playing reserve grade.

I forgot about Finch in '09. The Storm scenario is a little different in they got Finch earlier (April 15), they realised they needed a 5/8th and we're having a mixed start to the season (were 3-1-3 after 7 rounds) though still I guess it shows it can work.

 

[Billythekid]

I just don’t get the risk. The dogs were the best team in the comp and their playmakers were going well. They’re taking a huge risk on a young teenager who hasn’t proven shit. Sure he’s shown glimpses of brilliance but he has also shown some really poor play. He has potential but right now he’s a liability.

The baggage may be overblown but it’s still relevant. The last thing you want when you’re a team on the rise that’s really coming together for a premiership tilt is the potential for it to be unravelled by off field bullshit. Just being involved with that dickhead manager alone is a concern let alone everything else that has happened.

I just don’t understand why the dogs would take that risk and right now the way they’re using him is absolutely mind boggling.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Has there ever been a scenario where a player, brought into the side mid-season, and put in one of key spine positions, has actually helped the on-field performance?

I mean maybe you could argue Soward in 2007, as he helped the Dragons go from 14th to 13th, but I feel like generally they have more of a negative impact historically, especially if the team was successful before the change.

Galvin, even if there wasn't all the baggage surrounding his departure from the Tigers & even if the Bulldogs weren't travelling as well beforehand, was always going to be up against it.

Mitchell Moses 2017 left the Tigers in round 11 to join parra who were 5 win 5 losses.

Won 11 from there last 14 games to come 4th.

 

[Chimp]

The tigers will totally forget about him if Latu Fainu stays on this trajectory

Agree completely. I think there’s a fair chance the Tigers could leave all the media and the Bulldogs with egg on their face. I reckon there’s tigers backed the winner.

 

[BadnMean]

Agree completely. I think there’s a fair chance the Tigers could leave all the media and the Bulldogs with egg on their face. I reckon there’s tigers backed the winner.

Feels devastating at the time but yeah sometimes you get kicked in the ass by a rainbow.

When Wighton left the raiders we thought we were stuffed- next minnit Ethan Strange is even better and poor old Jack is the punchline.

Fainu looks very very good to me.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Mitchell Moses 2017 left the Tigers in round 11 to join parra who were 5 win 5 losses.

Won 11 from there last 14 games to come 4th.

I get it ..you are providing another example ….but Mitchell Moses is a much better than player than Galvin though

 

[edabomb]

At this point it's going to be underwhelming if Galvin does anything less than win the Churchill and part the Cooks River when bringing the Premiership back to the footy club.

 

[Marshall_magic]

I forgot about Finch in '09. The Storm scenario is a little different in they got Finch earlier (April 15), they realised they needed a 5/8th and we're having a mixed start to the season (were 3-1-3 after 7 rounds) though still I guess it shows it can work.

It was more about the reshuffle than the player. It must be stressed that they had Maloney in reserve grade who probably would have done the job.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Then we would be having exactly the same conversation in 4 weeks time. Best to rip the bandaid off and get him into the 17 (and probably the starting 13) sooner rather than later.

No we wouldnt. He would have been in the system and learning how to fit into the Dogs style at training for weeks. Then if it looks like hes upto it put him in.

They moved backline players around to accomodate him on Friday. Look maybe come finals time theyll be humming and we'll have egg on our faces. ATM though from the evidence provided it looks like Ciro and Gus have got it wrong.

 

[Dogs Of War]

No we wouldnt. He would have been in the system and learning how to fit into the Dogs style at training for weeks. Then if it looks like hes upto it put him in.

They moved backline players around to accomodate him on Friday. Look maybe come finals time theyll be humming and we'll have egg on our faces. ATM though from the evidence provided it looks like Ciro and Gus have got it wrong.

Missing loads of players through origin, and injury/suspension. It's why guys like DSF are getting a start, who won't be come finals time. I'm not worried. Maybe if we went on a 6 game losing streak like the Tigers, then I'd start to panic.

 

[mozza91]

Fixing something that ain’t broke is a classic Gus move when he’s been at a club for too long.

Galvin is a medium talent at best. Completely destabilising your 17 to fit him in is lunacy. I love it though Gus is a prick, so are a number of their fans and players. A complete bedshit would be delightful.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Missing loads of players through origin, and injury/suspension. It's why guys like DSF are getting a start, who won't be come finals time. I'm not worried. Maybe if we went on a 6 game losing streak like the Tigers, then I'd start to panic.

Entire spine was available Friday. Atm we have the same amount of wins against top 8 sides, the draws been very kind so far

 

[Dogs Of War]

Fixing something that ain’t broke is a classic Gus move when he’s been at a club for too long.

Galvin is a medium talent at best. Completely destabilising your 17 to fit him in is lunacy. I love it though Gus is a prick, so are a number of their fans and players. A complete bedshit would be delightful.

Maybe you guys need to recruit another middling half back. That should sort all your problems. Sexton must have been playing too well, which is why you guys didn't make an offer.

Either way, Galvin has been here for stuff all and is not the reason we lost.

With Origin being over shortly, I think the team should become clearer and sort itself out as the best 17 which we haven't had for quite some time gets onto the park. As they like to say, pick your best 17 and work out where they play.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Entire spine was available Friday. Atm we have the same amount of wins against top 8 sides, the draws been very kind so far

Bulldogs haven't had to experience having so many origin players out for quite some time. Other than the normal Burton 18th man situation (though this year we copped it with 3 different players). Just stuff for CC to work out, and I'd prefer CC has these sorts of issues now, and work out how it can be done better in the future, with all those guys becoming better for the experience.

 

[mozza91]

Maybe you guys need to recruit another middling half back. That should sort all your problems. Sexton must have been playing too well, which is why you guys didn't make an offer.

Either way, Galvin has been here for stuff all and is not the reason we lost.

With Origin being over shortly, I think the team should become clearer and sort itself out as the best 17 which we haven't had for quite some time gets onto the park. As they like to say, pick your best 17 and work out where they play.

You did sign a middling half and paid 750k a year for the privilege.
He was terrible on Friday and was part of the reason you lost.